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joe_schmoe
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i almost got in a physical fight on the city bus with some guy.

because he opened the motherfucking window on the freeway and it was cold and i shut it. then he opened it again.

then i shut it again.

he was like "what the fuck? I'm hot, I got three sweaters on". So I'm like "well take one of em off, this wind is blasing me and everyone in the face"

so he went to open it again, and i jumped up and held it shut before he could open it. then the woman beside me poked me in the ribs and said "no, don't!" in like this panicked voice because she was sort of between us.

so then the dude went and opened a different window, one that actually "belonged" to a different passenger and not within my immediate reach.

he said "this a public bus i'll open a window if i want". I said "yeah, and i'll close it if i want. it's public like that."

he said, "then we'll be doing this all day"

i stared at him for a while, realized that i was fighting a losing battle, so i muttered "fine, fuck it."

and went back to reading my book



now i feel like a real asshole. it seems like my default position is always hostile and aggressive. i'm always ready to fight, i dont really know why. i think i need help. one day i'm probably gonna get shot.

2/3/2009 11:28:31 PM

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[werd]

I'm Big Business and i approved this message.

2/3/2009 11:29:12 PM

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dont worry about it

he was being a douchenozzle

2/3/2009 11:29:25 PM

BigEgo
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yes

2/3/2009 11:29:55 PM

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gd seattle

2/3/2009 11:30:16 PM

FuhCtious
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^^^^ start with the guy above. maybe then your problem will turn into a public service.

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM. Reason : approve that]

2/3/2009 11:30:55 PM

GrimReap3r
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BAMF

2/3/2009 11:31:07 PM

BigEgo
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ouch

2/3/2009 11:31:39 PM

Money_Jones
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you would't have been an asshole if first you just asked him to shut the window, but as it stands, you're an asshole

2/3/2009 11:31:52 PM

BigEgo
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exactly

2/3/2009 11:32:18 PM

wolfpackgrrr
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dont worry about it

he was being a douchenozzle

2/3/2009 11:32:21 PM

tromboner950
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You live up in Washington state, right?

I'd imagine everyone is already pissed enough from the general dreary-ness of living there, it probably wouldn't take much to set them off.

In this instance, I wouldn't say you were an asshole. You were way too passive-aggressive, only you managed to be passive-aggressive directly to his face, which is an accomplishment in itself... then sorta pussied out at the end.

Again, you people live in washington state, you've all got good reason to be fucking wired like that.


If you want something to worry about, worry about the fact that he beat you. In every aspect of that conflict, he beat you. You were out-thought and out-manned. FOR SHAME.

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM. Reason : .]

2/3/2009 11:32:41 PM

Republican18
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liberals dont fight

2/3/2009 11:33:14 PM

wolfpackgrrr
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^

2/3/2009 11:33:35 PM

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^

2/3/2009 11:33:57 PM

GrimReap3r
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they get shot

2/3/2009 11:33:58 PM

pooljobs
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you're not an asshole, you just lost

2/3/2009 11:34:25 PM

GoldenGirl
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ya what you did would constitute asshole

2/3/2009 11:35:00 PM

BigEgo
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i actually agree with goldengirl for once

2/3/2009 11:35:37 PM

bdmazur
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if you have to ask...

2/3/2009 11:36:55 PM

GroundBeef
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Maybe someone smelled like shit or it may have been too stuffy to breathe.

2/3/2009 11:37:17 PM

Mr Grace
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i take over everywhere i go.


its amazing what you can get away with when you are truly an asshole.

but it has to be genuine

sorry bud, but you arent bonefide

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM. Reason : i spell good]

2/3/2009 11:37:18 PM

pooljobs
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history is written by the victors


sorry

2/3/2009 11:37:22 PM

nastoute
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grace is a girl's name

2/3/2009 11:38:15 PM

tromboner950
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Asshole? No.

Dick? Probably.

Lost the conflict? Yes, badly.

2/3/2009 11:38:19 PM

joe_schmoe
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well see, here's why i think i'm wrong.

the dude actually opened the window when we were downtown, travellign slowly. then we get on the freeway 5 or 10 mins later, and the wind starts blasting me and several people in the face (but not him, because of the way he's sitting)

so i just stood up reached over and shut it without really thinking.

if I'd have said, "hey man, that wind is blasting me in the face, mind if i shut it, at least until we get off the freeway?"

i'm certain he'd be like "sure man, no problem"

but because i just jumped up out of nowhere and slammed it shut, he felt like i was challenging him in some way so he had to basically tell me "fuck off bitch" in a manner of speaking.

i see it clearly now, i always do, after the fact.

but right at the moment of conflict, i get really fucking self-righteous, and i'm ready to fight any son of a bitch who i think is crossing me in some way.

never mind that the guy is like 6' tall, in better shape, bigger than me, looks like he could be an ex-con or an ex-gangbanger, may or may not have a weapon, and could probably fight better than me.

never mind that ive got a wife and small child at home, and i have to get off the bus at a stop near my house, and that if he wanted to, he could get off when i did and follow me home.

i'm a grown man, ive got a professional job and a family. i cant be behaving like some punk ass mallrat.

whats wrong with me?

2/3/2009 11:39:49 PM

nastoute
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really boils down to this

did you ask him to shut the window first?

but beyond that, you probably had no real "right" to close "his" window

it sucks that in a public space his inconsiderateness affects all, but so is the way of PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

...

I would mainly suggest that the reflection that you are having is a good thing and to work on being a good person, first and foremost.

we all need to work towards being better people

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM. Reason : .]

2/3/2009 11:42:06 PM

tromboner950
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That is a problem, but it's not asshole-ism.

Dick-ish-ness would be a more accurate term, probably.


Quote :
"here's why i think i'm wrong."


Primarily, you were wrong because you challenged but then lost.

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM. Reason : challenged]

2/3/2009 11:42:33 PM

Mr Grace
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hahaha you ride the bus

2/3/2009 11:42:36 PM

BigEgo
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hey, mallrats was a good movie.

anyway, maybe you're just stressed?

2/3/2009 11:42:39 PM

joe_schmoe
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yes, i agree that i lost. and yes, that sucks.

but after the original aggression took over me, i eventually realized that i was wrong and i wasnt going to win short of getting in a fight with him.

my problem is that i often jump into shit like this without looking.

and actually about halfway through the bus ride, i really felt stupid. i actually wanted to apologize for being a jerk, but i was too embarrassed to do that.

2/3/2009 11:44:50 PM

BigEgo
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maybe you should go to the gym and get that anger out

2/3/2009 11:45:21 PM

tromboner950
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Yeah, that hesitance is why you wouldn't classify as an asshole. Not enough brainless alpha-male vibe going on.

Again, a "dick" is a more proper term for what you were.

2/3/2009 11:46:12 PM

nastoute
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alpha-maleness only gets you so far

you do need to be able to coexist and work well with your fellow man

being a leader doesn't mean bludgeoning people towards your way of thinking

it's about being right and then convincing others of this fact

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM. Reason : .]

2/3/2009 11:48:15 PM

tromboner950
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^Yes, which is why being an asshole is generally considered a bad trait.

I was saying that he didn't have enough of that shit going on to be considered an asshole.

2/3/2009 11:49:24 PM

Mr Grace
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im a bonefide asshole, and my friends love me for it.

one wants me to be his law partner because im "a bigger asshole" than him and i always think im right

which i am

2/3/2009 11:50:40 PM

nastoute
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but they all hate you behind your back, make fun of you when you're not there, and conspire against you

2/3/2009 11:51:32 PM

joe_schmoe
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"Primarily, you were wrong because you challenged but then lost."


well, thats sort of true... but given my initial challenge, how the fuck would i have ever "won"?? he went and opened a different window, far from me, belonging to another passenger.

this was an unwinnable situtation. i had to cut my losses. because other than threatening (or inflicting) physical violence, i was out of options.

i should have never jumped like i did in the first place.

this is my problem: i always jump. without thinking. its like i have some anger management issues or stress or something.

someone said weather in seattle sucks. thats true. its dreary and i'm on edge. someone else said "passive aggressive" yeah, thats me, but i'm also aggressive too. like a combination of the worst aspects of both.

2/3/2009 11:51:34 PM

Mr Grace
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^^awww you bring such weak game its adorable

there is a big difference between being an asshole and having a short temper

2/3/2009 11:52:45 PM

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I find myself doing bad things sometimes to but its more of an anger problem because when things don't go my way I'll get angry for no reason. Maybe you should get a punching bag or something but I'm not sure how much it will help coming back from work which after a long day of stress.

You could have won by opening the window near him that would have blasted him in the face

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 11:54 PM. Reason : winnar]

2/3/2009 11:52:58 PM

tromboner950
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^^^I said all of those things.

Just watch the movie Anger Management, even though it's terrible. It'll make you feel better about your own ability to refrain from terrible attempts at making comedy movies.

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM. Reason : .]

2/3/2009 11:53:09 PM

nastoute
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Quote :
"i had to cut my losses."


looks like someone made the right decision, in the end

I remember something about a Boondocks episode about this...

2/3/2009 11:53:19 PM

tromboner950
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^"Granddad's fight" episode, Huey explains the nigger moment concept.

lemmie fetch that for ya.


Found it.
http://www.crackboondocks.com/2008/07/boondocks-episode-4-season-1-granddads.html


[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 11:56 PM. Reason : .]

2/3/2009 11:53:56 PM

nastoute
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Quote :
"^^awww you bring such weak game its adorable

there is a big difference between being an asshole and having a short temper"


you can divert as much as you want, it doesn't make it any less true

2/3/2009 11:54:09 PM

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2/3/2009 11:55:02 PM

Mr Grace
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well seeing as ive had the same core friends for 20+ years, im not all that worried about what random internet loser says

p.s. you lose any credibility when you have star wars characters in your profile, and no pics of yourself.

i wish you did so i could make fun of your appearance

2/3/2009 11:56:24 PM

GrimReap3r
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damnit, now i wanna get on youtube and watch boondock clips

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 11:57 PM. Reason : thx]

2/3/2009 11:56:39 PM

tromboner950
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^ see ^^^^^

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 11:57 PM. Reason : .]

2/3/2009 11:57:10 PM

nastoute
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^^^

i know you do

i know it matters that much to you

2/3/2009 11:58:42 PM

Mr Grace
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it really really does

2/3/2009 11:59:17 PM

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