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Tiberius
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el oh el

2/8/2009 12:56:43 PM

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I'm Big Business and i approved this message.

2/8/2009 12:57:06 PM

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alcoholics, or their alcoholic children

2/8/2009 12:57:32 PM

Tiberius
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^^shut your nigger face and go back to africa

[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM. Reason : not necessarily alcoholic children]

2/8/2009 12:57:47 PM

twoozles
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both

2/8/2009 1:14:43 PM

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k

2/8/2009 1:17:07 PM

bottombaby
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The alcoholic children of alcoholics.

2/8/2009 1:28:05 PM

twoozles
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neither of them realize what has happened

2/8/2009 1:31:56 PM

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k

2/8/2009 1:37:46 PM

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Blagojevich

2/8/2009 1:38:54 PM

Tiberius
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it seems like alcoholism may skip a generation in some cases

parents are alcoholics, children are strongly anti-alcohol, grandchildren rebel as alcoholics

2/8/2009 1:47:27 PM

seedless
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Alcoholism only is passed on mirrored behavior, not some gene.

2/8/2009 1:48:40 PM

bottombaby
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Alcoholism is a family problem. I have yet to see it skip a generation.

2/8/2009 1:49:46 PM

seedless
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I have seen some cases were not all children end up drinking alcohol to the point of alcoholism, but there was at least one in the bunch that did..

2/8/2009 1:51:24 PM

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And there is a great deal of evidence that alcoholism has a genetic component.

For example, twin and adoption studies.

I consider myself to be an example. My father was an alcoholic who died at the age of 31. I was a small child at the time and grew up in an alcohol free home. I developed a drinking problem before the age of 18.

2/8/2009 1:53:16 PM

twoozles
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i wasnt taking this thread seriously but the blatant generalizations are killing me

2/8/2009 1:53:31 PM

seedless
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Suggesting there is a gene for alcoholism implies alcoholics existed before alcohol was known to man.

2/8/2009 1:55:59 PM

MunkeyMuck
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it suggest that the susceptibility to addiction was there before alcohol, homie.

2/8/2009 1:57:07 PM

twoozles
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i think the genetic component has more to do with their tendency toward mental illness

2/8/2009 1:57:14 PM

seedless
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Well I work in the science field and I can tell you most of the shit that 'suggest' never manifest into truth.

2/8/2009 1:58:36 PM

Tiberius
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^^^^or it implies that there was a genetic susceptibility to alcoholism that was irrelevant before alcohol was widely known. do you know anything about genetics?

much of what's expressed by your genetic code is irrelevant, random noise, until it finds an aspect of the environment that selects for or against it

[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 2:01 PM. Reason : .]

2/8/2009 1:58:52 PM

seedless
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Imply ... suggest ...

What does both of these terms imply?

We think we see a pattern, but don't quote us on this.

We know all about introns and exons....

[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 2:02 PM. Reason : /]

2/8/2009 2:01:18 PM

Tiberius
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"Implies" refers to a correlation without assuming causation. You're killing me here.

2/8/2009 2:02:46 PM

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Haha, you are killing yourself... stop now while you have a chance.

2/8/2009 2:04:11 PM

bottombaby
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Alcoholism is genetic and environmental.

Just because your sensitivity to alcohol is hardwired does not mean that you're destined to become an alcoholic, but it does make you more susceptible to it.

I think that it would be narrow minded to blame a single factor.

2/8/2009 2:04:33 PM

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^ genetics loads the gun, environment pulls the trigger

2/8/2009 2:05:15 PM

seedless
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Now it IS genetic according to bottombaby haha.

2/8/2009 2:05:25 PM

bottombaby
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seedless, would it make you feel better if I edited my post?

maybe added a "likely"

2/8/2009 2:06:36 PM

Tiberius
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if you have a point that makes sense and doesn't sound grossly ignorant, seedless, I would make it quickly

working in genetics doesn't imply you know any fucking thing at all about it, and if you want a gold star for that I'd stick to career day at the local elementary school.

Thus far you've done nothing but make a retarded fucking statement and attempt to support it with a shitty attitude and vague insinuations that you know something. I'm not impressed.

2/8/2009 2:10:33 PM

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that's his mo

2/8/2009 2:11:42 PM

seedless
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I suggest you go read you a genetics book.

2/8/2009 2:24:50 PM

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