or is he?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3898942

2/11/2009 9:49:56 AM

Hmm. He had his agent call the Jets. I'm not sure what I think about that but oh well. I'd imagine this time is for good. It's going to suck to not see him play anymore.

2/11/2009 9:51:37 AM

Favre is such a douche

2/11/2009 9:52:52 AM

^^Thats what 'Brett' wants you to think. He cant wait to step up and spin the big drama wheel one more time.

He heard about A-rod and remembered how much he likes being in the limelight, he will be back

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2/11/2009 9:53:36 AM

this thread is void until the season starts and he's not playing

2/11/2009 9:55:16 AM

Yawn

2/11/2009 10:00:22 AM

Fail.

This is why girls shouldn't post in sports talk.

2/11/2009 10:04:52 AM

What? Where is the vagina in this thread?

2/11/2009 10:36:46 AM

LOCK SUSPEND PLEASE

2/11/2009 10:38:09 AM

ESPN is like FUCK YEAH BABY! We can talk about him all day BOOYA!!!

2/11/2009 10:48:18 AM

Until T.O. does something.

2/11/2009 10:52:21 AM

he'll still be playing games of grab-ass wearing his wranglers in someone's backyard.

2/11/2009 11:28:43 AM

favreggot

...yea yea

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2/11/2009 11:45:02 AM

One of the best ever

2/11/2009 12:00:39 PM

he needs to go ahead and leave

2/11/2009 12:05:53 PM

legacy destroyer!

2/11/2009 12:40:51 PM

he cant leave on a bad note

2/11/2009 12:51:14 PM

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"One of the best ever"

Don't want to start an arguement, but Favre is not top 5 all time. Borderline top 10.

2/11/2009 1:57:06 PM

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"What? Where is the vagina in this thread?"

I would argue that a person who selects a username that indicates subservience to a significant other does not have external genitalia.

2/11/2009 2:38:36 PM

^ good god. The bashing of a username is getting old. I usually don't let the internet get to me, but jeeze. Look, I have no creativity and had her friend create it for me. I'm kinda tired of getting flamed for a fucking user name. If you don't like the shit i post, that's fine, flame on. But if you just like to be a douchebag and make fun of me because i have a stupid user name, fuck you.

2/11/2009 4:19:45 PM

/estrogen riddled rant

2/11/2009 4:20:57 PM

I could easily pick probably 25 QB's I'd rather have in their prime than farve in his prime. Easily.

2/11/2009 4:34:53 PM

...until he comes out of retirement again.

2/11/2009 4:35:41 PM

kimslackey

Her?

/AD

2/11/2009 4:40:59 PM

its finally ohFOUR

2/11/2009 6:23:09 PM

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"I could easily pick probably 25 QB's I'd rather have in their prime than farve in his prime. Easily."

1) Roflsberger
2) see 1
3) see 2
4) see 3
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.
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25) see 24

2/11/2009 7:28:26 PM

Sucks for the Jets, Pennington has some decent years ahead of him and they blew it for a one-year shot with a dying legend.

2/11/2009 9:52:09 PM

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"Don't want to start an arguement, but Favre is not top 5 all time. Borderline top 10."

It's not even borderline to me, he's nowhere close to top 10

Usually if people are all over a QB's nuts despite the fact that they have mediocre to average stats it's because they have some sort of X factor or really turn it on in the games that matter but Favre is a master choke artist when the pressure is on and a drama queen to top it off, the Favre love fest has boggled my mind since the day I became aware of it sometime around the age of 13

2/12/2009 11:17:54 PM

^ OK you need to get your facts straight. It is next to impossible to rank QB's from different era's, however I believe as many people do that Brett Favre is one of the best of all time. He is definitely in the top 10 if not the top 5. The numbers don't tell the whole story, nor do super bowl victories, or MVP's . I believe you have to look at him and how he contributed to his team and the NFL as a whole. He is by no means a choke artist, and rather than cut and paste the long list of comeback drives he has done just take a look at the link below.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.gb-packers/browse_thread/thread/fc02f6b0f3d98ff2?pli=1

2/13/2009 10:20:10 AM

jesus christ a big interview on sportscenter, didn't we already go through this shit once already?

2/13/2009 2:41:13 PM

favre is maybe top 10 if you killed the 30 or so qbs ahead of him

2/13/2009 2:50:50 PM

10 QBs id rather have in their prime over favre

(in no order)

johnny unitus
john elway
joe montana
tom brady
peyton manning
steve young
troy aikman
bart starr
ben roethlesberger
jim kelly

2/13/2009 3:03:37 PM

10 qbs that i would seriously consider taking before favre

(plz remember offensive numbers have gone up as the nfl has become more offense/pass offense oriented)

joe namath
jim plunket
warren moon
sid luckman
dan marino
joe theisman
snake stabler
dan foutts
phil simms
frank tarkenton

2/13/2009 3:06:37 PM

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"ben roethlesberger"

Oh...come the fuck on.

2/13/2009 3:32:51 PM

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"I believe you have to look at him and how he contributed to his team and the NFL as a whole"

I have taken both of these into account and they only lower my opinion of Favre

2/13/2009 3:51:30 PM

The dude is an interception machine. I would never want to build a team around someone that gives up the ball so often.

2/13/2009 4:06:10 PM

Realistically the past several years have tarnished Favre's legacy in the eyes of many. In his prime he was certainly one of the greatest to ever play, which is pretty much undeniable.

2/13/2009 4:15:56 PM

i do not particuarly care for ben r. but, he has won two superbowls and made a hella throw on that drive. whether or not he has the regular season longevity of favre, he commands a winning team.

johnny u does not have the numbers compared to a lot of today's guys, but i'd take him over anyone else. favre is an inconsistent nitwit with great stats.

he's a lot like a rod. nobody argues he is a better player than jeter, but who would you rather have at bat in the playoffs?

2/13/2009 5:21:08 PM

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"he's a lot like a rod"

You mean he's one of the top five offensive players in the history of the game?

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"but who would you rather have at bat in the playoffs?"

He has a winning record in the playoffs (for what that's worth) and a QB rating of 85

You can't discount the fact that several teams he took to the playoffs wouldn't have even made it there without him. He carried a lot of Packers teams a lot further than they should have gone.

2/13/2009 5:32:17 PM

i appreciate that a rod is one of the greatest offensive players of his generation. can't compare generations...but, what he done when it matters. as a yankees fan, hes been worthless thus far.

farve had several great regular seasons, and several monumental losses in the playoffs


douche even lost to michael "golden god" vick in green bay

2/13/2009 5:43:40 PM

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"can't compare generations"

Yes you can

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"farve had several great regular seasons, and several monumental losses in the playoffs"

...that must have all been entirely his fault! One man team!

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2/13/2009 5:51:06 PM

Ernie FTW, even if you are a consistent troll in the mets thread

2/13/2009 5:55:36 PM

More fun Favre facts:

3 MVPs
1 losing season in 16 years
Middle name: Lorenzo

Roethlisberger has been in the league for five years. He's a serviceable QB that plays with the best defense in the league: a luxury that Favre never had. Comparing the two is straight up dumb. Let's talk in ten years when Roethlisberger is too banged up to take the field every single Sunday.

2/13/2009 6:03:39 PM

big ben already gets his ass pounded during the regular season

in fact, the steelers are one of the few teams i can name the backup qb for because you always see their asses warming up.

call me when big ben is as durable as brett and put up similar numbers


super bowl rings do not always equate to greatness

signed,

Dan Marino

2/13/2009 6:05:34 PM

Roethlisberger won't last as long as Favre. He'll be hobbling around by his early 30's the way he holds on to the ball.

But he's quite a bit better than just a "serviceable QB". He makes big plays, without the kind of bonehead mistakes that have become Favre's hallmark over the last decade or so.

2/13/2009 6:07:12 PM

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"super bowl rings do not always equate to greatness signed, Dan Marino "

thanks dan. how are those regular season records holding up for you?

2/13/2009 6:08:55 PM

And before you jump to the 'fuck him, he threw a ton of interceptions' argument:

QBs on maximus' list with a higher career interception percentage than Favre (3.3%)

Starr 4.4
Roethlisberger 3.6
Kelly 3.7
Unitas 4.8
Namath 5.8
Plunket (seriously?) 5.3
Moon 3.4
Luckman (are you fucking crazy?) 7.6
Theisman 3.8
Stabler 5.9
Fouts 4.3
Simms 3.4
Tarkenton 4.1

That second list was just a joke right?

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"But he's quite a bit better than just a "serviceable QB"."

Yeah, OK, above-average

2/13/2009 6:14:51 PM

For SOME reason, I believe Favre this time...I think he finally retires for good

2/13/2009 6:22:06 PM

the game is fundamentally changed. you can't compare stats but you can compare dominance

2/14/2009 12:21:51 AM

I forgot to mention his consecutive game started streak that I feel will never be broken.

2/16/2009 1:03:10 PM