Guys: marry a smart woman

Ladies: marry a smart man; because if you marry a stupid jock your daughter will be screwed

2/14/2009 8:21:26 AM

2/14/2009 8:23:03 AM

link? I have to see this to believe it.

2/14/2009 8:27:55 AM

http://regalmok.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/where-does-intelligence-come-from/

just google it there are many articles on it

2/14/2009 8:35:38 AM

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"Intelligence comes from the mother "

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"Ladies: marry a smart man; because if you marry a stupid jock your daughter will be screwed"

does not compute

2/14/2009 9:38:15 AM

intelligence comes from the X chromosome so for boys the X chromosome comes from the mom and the y chromosome comes from the dad

girls on the other hand have two x chromosomes so one of them comes from the mom and the other comes from dad if the dad is some stupid jock the baby girl would be some ditsy bitch

2/14/2009 10:01:47 AM

ok, that makes sense now then. just the way the thread was titled made it seem that intelligence in both sexes comes from the mother

2/14/2009 10:03:16 AM

I hope no one actually believes that link or the assertion in the first post.

It's not only probably not true, there is far from reasonable evidence indicating it might be true.

[Edited on February 14, 2009 at 10:06 AM. Reason : ]

2/14/2009 10:06:18 AM

I want someone to post a link to disprove this.

I'm not saying I completely believe this, I just want to see if there's evidence that indicates otherwise.

2/14/2009 10:11:47 AM

Anyone who has ever ridden in a car driven by a woman can tell you that this is completely bogus.


OK, now on a serious note. It is pretty widely accepted that intelligence is an inherited trait, up to about 70%. Many studies have been done on identical and fraternal twins who were raised separately, and in almost all cases they scored similar on intelligence tests. In other words, intelligence for the most part is not a learned trait.

However, this is the first time I have ever seen any studies regarding it being inherited from the mother exclusively. You should read some of the e-mails my mom sends me. I love her to death, but she is no scholar.

[Edited on February 14, 2009 at 10:15 AM. Reason : a]

2/14/2009 10:11:49 AM

^lol

2/14/2009 10:13:10 AM

Although, looking at my own family, there could be some validity to this.

My mom's side of the family has several college graduates. My dad's side has none.

I graduated college, but neither of my sisters did. I had a 3.8 GPA in High School, but neither of my sisters did well in H.S. at all.

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[Edited on February 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM. Reason : a]

2/14/2009 10:18:32 AM

Men Smarter than Women, Scientist ClaimsBy Jeanna Bryner, LiveScience Staff Writer


Men are smarter than women, according to a controversial new study that adds another cinder to the fiery debate over whether gender impacts general intelligence.

"For 100 years there's been a consensus among psychologists that there is no sex difference in intelligence," said J. Philippe Rushton, a psychologist at the University of Western Ontario, Canada.

Recent studies, however, have raised questions about the validity of this claim, he said. One such study showed that men have larger brains than women, a 100 gram difference after correcting for body size. Rushton found similar results in a study of gender and brain size.

To determine if there was a link between gender and intelligence, and perhaps between brain size and intelligence, Rushton and a colleague analyzed the Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) scores from 100,000 17- and 18-year-olds.

G-factor

When Rushton and colleagues weighted each SAT question by an established general intelligence factor called the g-factor, they discovered that males surpassed females by an average of 3.6 IQ points.

The g-factor works like this. "If I tell you the last four digits of my telephone number and ask you to repeat them back to me, that's a low g-loaded memory test," Rushton explained. "But if I then ask you to repeat them back to me in the reverse order, that suddenly requires a tremendous amount more cognitive processing. It is a very high loaded g-item.”

So the g-factor "is really the active ingredient of the test," Rushton said. "It's the single best, most predictive part of the test."

Rushton suspects that the results are due to males having more brain tissue than females on average. "It's a very reasonable hypothesis that you just need more brain tissue dedicated to processing high ‘g' information," Rushton said.

The study, which Rushton co-wrote with Douglas Jackson, also of the University of Western Ontario, is detailed in the current issue of the journal Intelligence.

Flawed conclusion

Bruce Bracken, a psychologist at the College of William and Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia, who was not involved in the new study, said he thinks Rushton and Jackson make a convincing argument for the sample they used.

"The difference appears to be real," Bracken said.

But he questions the team's conclusions. "I believe that the differences probably lie in the variables they hadn't considered," Bracken said.

One plausible explanation is that more females than males decide to go to college and thus take the SAT test. The study did in fact include about 10,000 more females than males.

"This suggests that more males are deciding to do something else," Bracken said. "It may be that the males who would not have scored as high on the SAT chose not to take it, and they chose another route."

A more reliable study, he said, would be to match each male with a very similar female and then compare the results.

The debate goes on

The findings add fuel to a still smoldering debate ignited by former Harvard President Lawrence Summers, who stated early last year that males have a higher intrinsic aptitude in science and engineering.

In a letter from Summers days after his controversial statements, he wrote: "Despite reports to the contrary, I did not say, and I do not believe, that girls are intellectually less able than boys, or that women lack the ability to succeed at the highest levels of science. As the careers of a great many distinguished women scientists make plain, the human potential to excel in science is not somehow the province of one gender or another.”

While Rushton called his results significant, he doesn't think they are a basis for uprooting the field of education.

"I don't think it has any real implications for education policy or schoolwork," he said. "In fact, females actually get better grades than males.”

Plus, he doesn't think the IQ difference would show up in everyday activities. "For the vast majority of people in the vast majority of jobs, it really doesn't translate into very much," he said.

But when it comes to Nobel Prize winners, he said that men could outnumber women 10-to-1. "Where it will really show up is at the very high end of the distribution," Rushton said.

Rushton has left the door open for opposing views and findings that might contradict his new study.

"I wouldn't say it's the last word. We really do need more research on it before we can be absolutely certain," Rushton said.

2/14/2009 10:20:48 AM

"men are smarter than women"
- men who are dumber than most women

2/14/2009 10:22:09 AM

I have always thought that the IQ test is not a totally accurate way to assess intelligence.

I mean, people are intelligent in different ways. An auto mechanic might not be able to solve little number puzzles or do complicated math problems, but he can take apart and rebuild my engine. Which I cannot do.

[Edited on February 14, 2009 at 10:24 AM. Reason : l]

2/14/2009 10:23:13 AM

^

Yes, yes you can. Don't kid yourself. Anyone over the age of 10 can follow directions.

putting an engine together is following a process. solving a math problem is solving a problem.



[Edited on February 14, 2009 at 10:26 AM. Reason : .]

2/14/2009 10:25:51 AM

you know what, you are probably right. If I had the schematic and the tools, i could do it

2/14/2009 10:26:48 AM

wait a minute I'm not saying men are smarter than women

I'm saying you inherit your "intelligence" by your mother

2/14/2009 10:27:05 AM

I guess the point that I am trying to make is that I believe intelligence is more than just quantitative. Just look at classical musicians and artists. Many of them never even graduated high school, but they are touted as "geniuses" in their field.

So, in my opinion, you can't just look at someone's IQ Score when you are trying to assess overall intelligence.

[Edited on February 14, 2009 at 10:31 AM. Reason : a]

2/14/2009 10:30:59 AM

overall intelligence is a myth

2/14/2009 10:50:40 AM

^^^Yeah, GGMon is just being silly.

There are lots of researchers and scientists who support the gist of what you claim.

I'm not sure I agree, but the X chromosome is really important.

^Yeah, that's why I don't agree with this thread. It just seems weird to be like, "Okay, intelligence, which we've never been able to define before, can now be found on this chromosome."

I'm sure different aspects of different kinds of intelligence can be found in our genes. But it should be all over the place, not just a couple markers.

[Edited on February 14, 2009 at 11:03 AM. Reason : ?]

2/14/2009 10:58:23 AM

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"Yes, yes you can. Don't kid yourself. Anyone over the age of 10 can follow directions. putting an engine together is following a process. solving a math problem is solving a problem."

Thank you - so sick of the "ham and eggers" going on about different types of smarts. If you have a degree - you can do anyting a high school drop out can.

2/14/2009 3:21:12 PM

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"Many of them never even graduated high school, but they are touted as "geniuses" in their field."

That would be largely because high school grades are more a measure of effort and knowledge than intelligence, in most cases.

Knowledge being raw information, intelligence being ability to think.

2/14/2009 3:26:45 PM

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"Guys: marry a smart woman"

Yeah, but they don't want to date smart women.

They want to date women with nice titties who are bubbly, happy, and like sex.

If you can find a smart woman like that, great, but most women with those qualities have no motivation to develop intellectually because they have a brigade of dudes fawning all over them their entire lives.

2/14/2009 3:33:53 PM

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"looking at my own family, there could be some validity to this."

2/14/2009 3:35:13 PM

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"looking at my own family, there could be some validity to this"

Unconfirmed, though, because I do not have a sister.

2/14/2009 3:36:13 PM

where are the smart women?

2/14/2009 6:17:12 PM

I'm pretty sure they aren't hanging out near you

2/14/2009 6:25:50 PM

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""looking at my own family, there could be some validity to this.""

never thought about it until now..

2/14/2009 6:32:47 PM