Yertdaman Veteran 190 Posts user info edit post |
AKC Registered Golden Retriever Puppies
We are near Asheville, NC ,but I can also may be able to deliver your puppy if your somewhere between Asheville and Raleigh
1st Shots, Wormed, and Completely healthy
Great Dogs, they have been held and played with since they were born. They are 7 weeks old and ready to go to their new homes.
Originally we had 11 pups total but now we only have 1 girl left and 4 boys left. The girl is a darker color, but we have a wide range of colors left in the boys. We are asking $450 for the girls, and $400 for the boys
PM if interested or if you have any questions.
2/16/2009 12:02:04 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
I would love to take one, but I can't until I move into my new apartment over the summer. 2/16/2009 12:25:16 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
lemme just have one 2/16/2009 12:25:44 AM |
Yertdaman Veteran 190 Posts user info edit post |
I definitely would give em away if I could, If I knew they were going to a good home, but with as much time and money we've already sunk into these lil guys and gals were barely breaking even if we get what were asking for 2/16/2009 12:31:12 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Any chance you can hold a boy for me until summer (very beginning of June most likely)?
[Edited on February 16, 2009 at 12:32 AM. Reason : -] 2/16/2009 12:32:23 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
can i just hold one for like an hour? 2/16/2009 12:35:56 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
You should rent them out to single guys to help them pick up women. Then sell them at a discount when they get old and ugly. 2/16/2009 8:32:28 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
could you wait about a year and a half, have more pups and give one to me?
kthx 2/16/2009 9:10:01 AM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
OHMYGOD
do want so hard 2/16/2009 9:20:01 AM |
GoldenGirl All American 6475 Posts user info edit post |
SO CUTE!
Set up a puppy cam! 2/16/2009 1:01:44 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
fucking puppy mills 2/16/2009 1:06:19 PM |
tchenku midshipman 18586 Posts user info edit post |
so you need to make $4500 in order to break even huh? good luck 2/16/2009 2:12:53 PM |
ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
I hope yall don't break even, or come close to it. 2/16/2009 2:31:54 PM |
XCchik All American 9842 Posts user info edit post |
2/16/2009 3:00:10 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
i hope you get your asking price 2/16/2009 3:06:13 PM |
Yertdaman Veteran 190 Posts user info edit post |
Why the hate?
The father dog... my dog, is a terrific dog, and I knew many people that wanted/requested one of his puppies so we decided to breed him with my mothers dog, one time (she's already been fixed so it can't happen again), with expectations that she'd have about 6-8 puppies, instead she had 11 so we have to get rid of them... because we already have other dogs and cannot support 5 more dogs.
Quote : | "fucking puppy mills" |
Screw you! Know your shit before you make acusations. No "puppy mill", this is the first time and last time they will breed. THEY ARE IN OUR FREAKING HOUSE! not in a barn, or out in the garage. Somebody has been with them almost 100% of the time for the past 7 weeks.
Quote : | "so you need to make $4500 in order to break even huh? good luck" |
You're obviously talking out of your ass, and have never raised any puppies... because if you have you would know they are about a 16 hour a day responsibility and need constant love and attention to turn out as good, healthy dogs.... coupled with the AKC crap, dog food, shots and fees, paper towels, bedding, etc.... it definitely adds up, so yes $4000 to $4500 might cover the costs
Quote : | "I hope yall don't break even, or come close to it." |
I hope your tires go flat, or close to it!
Quote : | "SO CUTE!
Set up a puppy cam!" |
I've thought about it... may try to this weekend if we've still got them around!2/16/2009 3:35:52 PM |
catalyst All American 8704 Posts user info edit post |
why are the girls $50 more 2/16/2009 4:00:18 PM |
XCchik All American 9842 Posts user info edit post |
Adorable puppies. I love goldens. I really do.
But I've also been involved in animal rescue groups for years now and see first hand how horrible our country's pet overpopulation problem is..... so yes it bothers me, angers me whenever I see dogs intentionally bred. I've spent hundreds thousands on my rescues and fosters, cleaning up the mess others make.
I am sure every animal lover is thrilled that you are trying to find these puppies good homes, but there are millions of dogs in animal shelters being put down because there are simply too many out there and not enough homes. You are only adding to the pet overpopulation problem.
You bred your animals because they are good looking and purebred... "terrific dogs" ok. BUT Have you shown them? Do they have champions in their bloodlines? Did you study their pedigrees? Do the parents have OFA, CERF, SAS, PRA clearances? (do you know what those are?) - hip, elbow, heart, thyroid, etc... Simply stating that your vet thinks that they're in good shape does not suffice.
From what you stated above it (attitude aside), it seems like your family is taking good care of them and since they are cute puppies and a popular breed you will probably have no trouble finding them good homes.
But it doesn't change the fact that 4-5 million dogs and cats are euthanized in shelters every year in the US. Approximately 25% of them are purebreds. Pets are seen as disposable... What if one of these cute puppies doesn't get a 'forever' home and ends up a shelter and put down or is adopted by someone who doesn't understand the responsibility and committment it take to own a dog. Keeping it chained up or left outside - goldens are people dogs - doing so would be downright cruel.
Is your family asking for references, vet references, doing home visits? (all of which I suggest to ensure the best home possible) Do these homes understand the energy/activity level of a golden?
If you had spent much time on tww then the replies to this post should come at no surprise.
There is no way that you have spent $450 on each puppy. You are making a profit off these puppies.
[Edited on February 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM. Reason : h] 2/16/2009 4:02:12 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so yes it bothers me, angers me whenever I see dogs intentionally bred. I've spent hundreds thousands on my rescues and fosters, cleaning up the mess others make. " |
Maybe you should be angry at the people who let their dogs breed irresponsibly and lay off people who are breeding a reasonable amount and sending them to good homes. Responsible breeders aren't costing you a dime.2/16/2009 4:07:37 PM |
Yertdaman Veteran 190 Posts user info edit post |
XCchick, I understand where you are coming from... I too have done my share of adopting animals. Many of which I have sunk thousands of dollars into trying to clear up skin problems, health conditions, etc. So I completely understand, but I also have seen the reactions to my "terrific" dog, the breed doesn't even matter, I would probably have bread this dog if he were a three legged mutt, and felt like I should accomodate my friends and family that have asked me to breed him. Whether that was responsible or not is not the debate... every person in this world can gripe about something. I drove my truck to work instead of taking a bike, I threw away a piece of paper instead of recycling it... point is I can't please everyone. But I assure you I have taken every step that I know of to ensure these puppies have been raised right, and will continue to make sure they go to "good" homes.
Quote : | "If you had spent much time on tww then the replies to this post should come at no surprise." |
I've heard my share of gripes from the wolfweb so I don't get too tied up on it... I just felt I should defend myself this once... because I honestly think that overall our decision to breed these dogs was a good one.
Quote : | "There is no way that you have spent $450 on each puppy. You are making a profit off these puppies." |
Think what you will, but I can justify every single cent. In fact, I believe I will end up about $200-$300 short total... If I get asking price.
Quote : | "why are the girls $50 more" |
Typically the females are more desirable, and the other classifieds in our area had similar breakdowns. So we decided to follow suit.2/16/2009 4:25:54 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
if it comes to the point they you just need to give them away, i'll take one or two
i'm disinclined to pay for dogs, sry
[Edited on February 16, 2009 at 4:30 PM. Reason : i'm gonna name it Comet] 2/16/2009 4:29:52 PM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
XCchik
get off your high horse. seriously, no one cares that you go broke adopting the world's strays. you can't change people and bitching doesn't help.
think about all of the unwanted children in the world. why didn't you adopt? why did you add to the overpopulation problem? i'm sure that the doctors and hospital was trying to make a profit providing you services during pregnancy and after birth. did you harangue the staff for trying to help you?
darn those baby mills.
[Edited on February 16, 2009 at 4:58 PM. Reason : d] 2/16/2009 4:58:41 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "coupled with the AKC crap, dog food, shots and fees, paper towels, bedding, etc.... it definitely adds up, so yes $4000 to $4500 might cover the costs" |
paper towels? maybe you should factor in how much water they've consumed so you can add that into the price also2/16/2009 5:09:57 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
I agree with XCchick's post 2/16/2009 6:02:06 PM |
jetskipro All American 1635 Posts user info edit post |
my family bred purebred goldens for 15 years (goldrush charlie bloodline).
beautiful, highly intelligent dogs. 2/16/2009 6:08:19 PM |
MisterGreen All American 4328 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "get off your high horse. seriously, no one cares that you go broke adopting the world's strays. you can't change people and bitching doesn't help. " |
Thank you. No one cares. People who responsibly breed purebred dogs are the LAST PEOPLE that should be bitched at about animal overpopulation.2/16/2009 7:16:14 PM |
Yertdaman Veteran 190 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "paper towels? maybe you should factor in how much water they've consumed so you can add that into the price also" |
Yeah, believe it or not paper towels cost money! It's crazy right! I prolly should also add the price of the electricity we used so we didn't have to keep them in the dark... and the heat we used to keep them warm... and ...
In all seriousness we've used about 50 rolls of paper towels plus about ten endrolls from the newspaper company to clean up Pee and Poop and 50 rolls of paper towels at $1.00-$2.00 a piece adds up.2/16/2009 7:19:19 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
XCbitch, stfu. Seotaji said it best.
Not to mention - maybe some people don't want some wasted mutt with completely unknown heritage and medical issues, possible psychological baggage, etc that they wouldn't have time to put up with.
Sure, overpopulation of pets is a problem. Sure, puppy mills are wrong. But that's no reason to ban people from breeding their healthy animals. Like Seotaji said, why aren't you mad at people who allow mutts & unhealthy dogs to breed? 2/16/2009 7:22:51 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^The ShamWOW guy says you're going to spend $20/week in paper towels anyway. 2/16/2009 7:23:24 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
something tells me that upsets her too 2/16/2009 7:24:06 PM |
ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
Two questions 1) Why wasn't your dog neutered? Or your mom's dog spayed? 2) People ask you to do something, and you do it, so as to indulge them? Please, give me one of these puppies. They're ADORABLE! K, now another one is spoken for.
So your dog is AWESOME. That's fine. Lots of dogs are. I fail to see why this warrants breeding.
Quote : | "Like Seotaji said, why aren't you mad at people who allow mutts & unhealthy dogs to breed?" |
I'm gonna make a completely unfounded, out-of-the-blue guess and say she is
Quote : | "wasted mutt with completely unknown heritage and medical issues" |
[Edited on February 16, 2009 at 7:25 PM. Reason : ljd]2/16/2009 7:24:20 PM |
Yertdaman Veteran 190 Posts user info edit post |
Two answers
Quote : | "1) Why wasn't your dog neutered? Or your mom's dog spayed?" |
Historically I have had better success with my dogs which were not fixed. They tend to have more energy, be in better shape, and overall seem to have something that the ones that weren't fixed just didn't have. I don't care if you think thats a load of crap, because its true. Additionally they are inside dogs as I have planned from the start... watched over 100% of the time while they are outside, so there is very little chance of unintentional breeding. However, since we do have the dogs around each other from time to time we have now went ahead and spayed my mothers dog to prevent any more breeding.
Quote : | "2) People ask you to do something, and you do it, so as to indulge them? Please, give me one of these puppies. They're ADORABLE! K, now another one is spoken for." |
I indulge it if I believe it is a good thing to do. As I said before I think it was a good decision to breed them so I did. Please give me $400 or $450 depending on the sex of dog you want, and pending the fact you can prove to me you are a good person and responsible enough to raise this dog correctly and it's yours!2/16/2009 7:34:37 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
attn: XCchik STFU 2/16/2009 8:31:51 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
Classifieds is not Soap Box #2 2/16/2009 8:42:37 PM |
surfer_boy6 All American 2071 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so you need to make $4500 in order to break even huh? good luck" |
I understand that puppies require a lot of work, but with a price of $400-$450 a piece you are obviously out to make a little bit of profit. People sell puppies all the time for ~$100 and seem happy as hell with the money. I know you are probably thinking "good luck finding a purebred Golden Retriever for ~$100" but we're speaking of puppies in general, regardless of their worth.2/16/2009 8:45:24 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
Classifieds is CC #2 2/17/2009 10:15:10 AM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
check pm i want a pup 2/17/2009 1:58:59 PM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
I agree with XCchick's post 2/17/2009 2:07:02 PM |
Yertdaman Veteran 190 Posts user info edit post |
Several people have asked me for a picture of the "parents", so here they are... the mother is on the left and the dad is on the right.
2/17/2009 8:17:44 PM |
engrish All American 2380 Posts user info edit post |
I've rescued several dogs and sunk thousands into vet bills on each one just to have them die anyway. I will never get another pound/rescue dog. I will only purchase dogs from breeders that can show a healthy line of dogs so I know that I'm not getting someone else's mess.
To rescue an animal is a great thing but fuck if I'm going through that hassle again or the heartache that is watching the dog die anyway after all of the efforts. 2/17/2009 9:55:03 PM |
mcnx06 New Recruit 10 Posts user info edit post |
$400-450 is the usual for purebred goldens. i dont see the problem and i DEFINITELY don't see the point in people attacking this person for it. move along now if you aren't interested in the puppies or if you just want to point fingers...ya'll have beaten this post to a pulp.
I hope you find wonderful homes for all of them. 2/17/2009 10:08:51 PM |
dagreenone All American 5971 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I am sure every animal lover is thrilled that you are trying to find these puppies good homes, but there are millions of dogs in animal shelters being put down because there are simply too many out there and not enough homes." |
I hate this recycled rhetoric so much, it doesn't even make sense. Do his friends and family want a sheltered dog? No, they want a golden retriever dog just like his. Some people like a little choice in what dog they are going to keep for a decade+. (Such as ^^). XCchik, this is not ChitChat#2, this is not SoapBox, so STFU.
Quote : | "so you need to make $4500 in order to break even huh? good luck" |
Quote : | "I understand that puppies require a lot of work, but with a price of $400-$450 a piece you are obviously out to make a little bit of profit." |
If he finds buyers willing to pay 400-450, who cares if he is making a small profit. Jeez, their his puppies he can sell them for however high or low as he wants.
Quote : | "Historically I have had better success with my dogs which were not fixed. They tend to have more energy, be in better shape, and overall seem to have something that the ones that weren't fixed just didn't have." |
I agree.
Quote : | "$400-450 is the usual for purebred goldens. i dont see the problem and i DEFINITELY don't see the point in people attacking this person for it. move along now if you aren't interested in the puppies or if you just want to point fingers...ya'll have beaten this post to a pulp.
I hope you find wonderful homes for all of them. " |
]2/17/2009 10:23:26 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
Oh my god you whiny bitches with your bloody cunt rags. Because of the ignorant few people must adopt mixed breeds with unknown pasts into their homes. GOOD IDEA FUCKFACES.
Maybe instead of yelling at a responsible breeder you should yell at the ones adopting pets, letting them roam free and breed only to end up in the pound. 2/18/2009 9:10:44 AM |
jetskipro All American 1635 Posts user info edit post |
^truth
When my family bred PUREBRED CHAMPION BLOODLINE goldens, we sold them initially for $400 apiece, and probably turned ~$1500 to $2000 in profit after paying for the paperwork, health certs, bedding, food, etc. This would be on your average litter of around 9 healthy puppies.
As time went on, we began charging more for them ($700 apiece on the last litter). It wasn't that caring for them had gotten any more expensive, but the certifications (hip, heart, thyroid, AKC shit) had gone up considerably. Also, charging more for purebred show-quality dogs ensures that the people who would be interested in buying them have the financial means to support an animal. If you drop that much on a dog, it is unlikely that you will leave it chained to a tree in your backyard.
Professional breeders who have the paperwork to back up what they are doing are not puppy mills. Puppies require constant attention, and I remember many mornings throughout middle school and high school spent bottle feeding weaker puppies before I went to school. It's very labor intensive, and you have to know what you're doing. 2/18/2009 9:59:47 AM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
People who breed don't make money off of it as I'm sure you holy gods of all knowing are aware, they get into the business to preserver specific traits of a certain breed. 2/18/2009 10:30:56 AM |
jetskipro All American 1635 Posts user info edit post |
oh you can definitely make money off of it. It's just that people require more and more documentation regarding bloodline and medical history nowadays than they used to, and naturally that increased cost gets added into the cost of the dog.
it's perfectly reasonable to believe that you could make $1500 a litter. Granted, you have to pay a stud fee (unless you own the stud), and you are basically working a second job for two months. 2/18/2009 10:49:50 AM |
packguy2 Veteran 101 Posts user info edit post |
Bump for some great puppies. My wife and I bought one of the female puppies last Saturday and she's great. Yertdaman was great to deal with and it was easy to see that he and his family have put a lot of time and effort into caring for them. 2/18/2009 12:38:16 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
^Jealous! 2/18/2009 1:24:29 PM |
tchenku midshipman 18586 Posts user info edit post |
my issue is not with breeding purebreds (my german shepherd is laying on my feet as I type), it's with the comment that he needs $400/puppy to break even.
Quote : | "we sold them initially for $400 apiece, and probably turned ~$1500 to $2000 in profit after paying for the paperwork, health certs, bedding, food, etc. This would be on your average litter of around 9 healthy puppies" |
2/18/2009 2:06:18 PM |
surfer_boy6 All American 2071 Posts user info edit post |
^ my thoughts exactly 2/18/2009 3:17:50 PM |