Here is a dutch politician who shares his insight into the religion of Islam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0jUuzdfqfc

And I'll have to agree with him Islam is more like an Ideology instead of a religion. It's like Nazi Germany, where the Nazis wanted to take over the world and exterminate all those that did not fit their identity.

3/2/2009 8:07:09 PM

This couldn't fit into the other thread?

Also, Nazi comparisons? At the very least, try to be less cliché.

3/2/2009 8:12:26 PM

i didn't watch your video, but if you are going to be that general about islam that statement could be said about christianity too

3/2/2009 8:19:40 PM

Just post in here: message_topic.aspx?topic=558929

No need for a new thread on this, when it's something that's already [old] to a different thread.

3/2/2009 8:19:57 PM

Oh man, thank you so much for bringing all of this to the light! I had never heard of such god fearing people being terrorists and killers!

What do you propose we do?

3/2/2009 8:39:47 PM

message_topic.aspx?topic=559971

I went ahead and got this part out of the way, it's going to happen pretty soon at this rate.

3/2/2009 11:47:33 PM

i blame cheese

3/3/2009 12:28:08 AM

In all likelihood he'll wear himself pretty quickly and leave in frustration, but on the off chance he doesn't I'd like to go ahead and set up the containment mechanism.

3/3/2009 12:30:19 AM

dude

he's on a crusade

he's not tiring out any time soon

3/3/2009 1:23:02 AM

oh wow, a new crazy guy, i returned just in time

what happened to StevenNumbers?

Quote :

"The party fielded a controversial motion in the 2007 algemene beschouwingen of the immigration budget, that called for a stop of immigration from Muslim countries. Parliament at first would not move to bring the motion up for discussion. Justice minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin said the motion was in violation of the Dutch constitution and international law.[32] Another motion by the PVV, that found it undesirable for police agents to wear veils, did find a parliamentary majority.[33] Wilders has also put forth the idea that the Netherlands should open up its own "Guantanamo Bay" that would detain people which the intelligence service sees as a security threat, somewhat akin to the Israeli administrative detention.[34]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom

sounds like Freedom to me

[Edited on March 3, 2009 at 8:08 PM. Reason : /]

3/3/2009 7:57:29 PM

please leave again.

3/3/2009 9:18:06 PM

Quote :

"i didn't watch your video, but if you are going to be that general about islam that statement could be said about christianity too"

i did; it's nothing american conservatives aren't saying, he just has the balls to be upfront about it...

he's drumming up political support as much as anything else, which, as he said, any backlash only serves to reinforce his stance--it's really pretty savvy

3/3/2009 10:55:29 PM

i thought this thread was about

3/3/2009 11:06:32 PM

You mean I actually pissed you guys off that much...that you actually created another thread to put limits on me? This was about the shit that is going on in Europe. I mean I guess I could have put it in that other thread, but you guys aren't gonna take this serious? What if this was happening here.

*I apologize TKE-Teg this should have gone in your thread

[Edited on March 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2009 11:44:08 PM

its okay man. its an important issue so no big deal. of course, that means its another thread for PinkandBlack to trash

3/3/2009 11:51:19 PM

lol

MY BIGOTRY IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF WHATS HAPPENING IN EUROPE

3/4/2009 1:29:54 AM

Sorry for not going into combat mode over angry Islamists.

3/5/2009 7:03:46 PM

Quote :

"sounds like Freedom to me "

Which part? Not allowing everyone in the country that wants to come in? Not allowing police officers in uniform to wear an item of clothing? Yeah, the last paragraph you have a case. From what I've read, not allowing immigrants from Muslim countries is not against international law nor Dutch law. Hell, countries have the right to choose whom the do and do not let in.

Wilders isn't someone I would directly support, but some of the things he fights for I do. He wants to stop the influence of Islam in his country? Good for him. Note, he is also an atheist, not some Christian fundie.

3/5/2009 8:58:33 PM

Quote :

"You mean I actually pissed you guys off that much...that you actually created another thread to put limits on me?"

Oh no sir. I made a thread to put limits on you because you made two threads that said basically the same goddamn thing, all in the course of 24 hours. We've seen that before. If you stick around for a while, it's likely enough that you will:

1) Continue to post repetitive concepts in multiple threads.
2) Never respond meaningfully to any counter-argument.
3) Get warned by the moderators to keep all your repetitive bullshit in limited threads.
4) Post something so horrifically offensive as to border on the criminal.
5) Get banned.

I was just trying to skip steps 1-3.

Perhaps it's unfair to compare you to salisburyboy so, but, I mean, you kind of brought it on yourself. And don't waste any time denying that you've ever heard of salis, even if you haven't, you might as well be his brother.

3/6/2009 2:23:36 AM

Islam not a religion, says Wilder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faPCH-4uAEY

Oh, and he wans to ban the Koran too, did anyone mention that?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1559877/Ban-Koran-like-Mein-Kampf-says-Dutch-MP.html

4/29/2009 11:58:16 PM

Well, if Mein Kampf is banned, then no reason the Koran shouldn't or couldn't be. They both espouse hatred and violence. They both can be used to justify both these things... I mean, the reasoning is pretty sound. If you can justify banning Mein Kampf, then you can justify banning the Koran, the Torah, or the Old Testament. Hell, if Hitler would have won, Mein Kampf would probably be considered a holy text (no joke).

4/30/2009 8:33:41 AM