Apparently if you eat more than a childs size hamburger a week you'll likely die an early age.

This means you need to cut out bacon, processed meats for sandwiches, hot dogs, sausages, steak, ribs, burgers, etc.

but but it tastes sooooooooooooooooooooo goooooooooooooooooooood

3/25/2009 1:08:55 AM

shut up, bitch

3/25/2009 1:09:45 AM

I'll be dying early then

3/25/2009 1:09:51 AM

3/25/2009 1:10:02 AM

the part they don't mention is that you're gonna die either way

3/25/2009 1:10:16 AM

lol jk

3/25/2009 1:10:18 AM

kiwi, i want to see some titties outta you!

3/25/2009 1:10:25 AM

I, too, would like to see some god damn titties

3/25/2009 1:10:44 AM

the part they don't mention is that you're gonna die either way

3/25/2009 1:13:38 AM

Darn, I'll be dying at 85 instead of 95

3/25/2009 1:14:08 AM

What's with the titties?

3/25/2009 1:14:16 AM

you are


i think

3/25/2009 1:14:38 AM

vegetarian ftw!!

3/25/2009 1:15:22 AM

too bad that study was extremely flawed

3/25/2009 1:18:08 AM

^
Yeah, it was just a survey, but in terms of chemical preservatives and high-heat producing free-radicals -- it's clear that certain red meat meals are unhealthy.

I cut out all red meat from my diet for over 10 years. Now, I consume less than a pound of red meat per week. (You don't have to be a vegetarian to realize this health benefit.)

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"Darn, I'll be dying at 85 instead of 95"

Exactly. If you'd prefer to have "life in your years", rather than "years in your life", then that is your prerogative. Same with drugs and sex.

[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 1:24 AM. Reason : ]

3/25/2009 1:24:05 AM

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"high-heat producing free-radicals"

no shit... it also denatures proteins... AMAZING! i never knew heat could do that.

i wonder if it also causes changes in things that AREN'T meat? that would be crazy.

3/25/2009 1:27:15 AM

I went vegetarian for 5 years. Then I moved out of my parents' house and started having to buy my own groceries.

3/25/2009 1:27:26 AM

i eat a ton of meat a day. 2200lbs.

i'm healthy and fit.

crazy low cholesterol high.

using my one instance, i'd like to submit that eating lots of red meat is fine.

3/25/2009 1:29:21 AM

Been a vegetarian for a while now but broke it a few weeks ago to eat some chicken. I've been occassionally eating chicken over the past few weeks, but for the most part I've retained my normal diet.

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"but but it tastes sooooooooooooooooooooo goooooooooooooooooooood"

holy shit shut the fuck up

3/25/2009 1:29:36 AM

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"i wonder if it also causes changes in things that AREN'T meat?"

Good point.

3/25/2009 1:30:19 AM

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"Str8Foolish"

3/25/2009 1:30:24 AM

you're not a man if you don't eat red meat.

that's all there is to it. the bloodier the better. fuck, when i go out for steak, when they ask me how i like it, i just say "oh, don't you worry about that. just bring me the meat."

i'm still alive. </pearl jam>

3/25/2009 1:31:06 AM

I've felt pretty good on a vegetarian diet plus I haven't been supporting the toxic waste dumps that bring you cheap meat

^ you probably have a tiny dick

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3/25/2009 1:31:16 AM

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"Barney Rubble: You know, Fred, I hear that eatin' too much red meat is bad for you. Fred Flintstone: What a load of bunk! My father ate it every day of his life and he lived to the ripe old age of thirty-eight. "

3/25/2009 1:31:31 AM

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" you probably have a tiny dick"

maybe so, but I eat like a man is supposed to eat.

3/25/2009 1:33:20 AM

the fuck does that even mean

if we didn't mass produce the shit out of that stuff in a completely unsustainable way, your ass would be eating rice and beans

3/25/2009 1:33:58 AM

that's why you don't eat the mass produced shit.

free range ftw.

3/25/2009 1:34:42 AM

yes, but we do mass produce it, so i fail to see your point. i go to harris teeter and there are dozens of NY strips just waiting to be gobbled up. its magic.

3/25/2009 1:36:11 AM

is it wrong if you're eating meat from animals you raise?

3/25/2009 1:36:16 AM

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"is it wrong if you're eating meat from animals you raise?"

its called farming

unless of course that animal would be a dog, cat, etc...

3/25/2009 1:37:14 AM

i don't have many ethical qualms with eating meat if it's sustainably raised

but that shit you see in the hood lion is some of the most morally reprehensible bullshit of our time

3/25/2009 1:38:00 AM

free range is such a bullshit phrase

people who believe in it are suckers

3/25/2009 1:38:07 AM

balanced diet trumps being a vegetarian in terms of life expectancy

3/25/2009 1:39:19 AM

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"its called farming"

I know this.

3/25/2009 1:40:02 AM

you people and your thinking you're gonna make a difference in how we get our meats. unless they put a government official on EVERY farm holding EVERY employee's hand to make sure they do EVERYTHING ethically, it ain't gonna fuckin change.

do i agree with how we're going about things? hell no. but i also don't buy this free range bullshit.

3/25/2009 1:41:13 AM

Vineson FTW. I might start raising my own rabbits when I have a permanent residence as well.


As someone who has no desire to have children, and thus no reason to prolong their life beyond the age at which I enjoy living, I don't see any incentive to aggressively change my diet in order to squeeze an additional, theoretical, few years out at the end.

3/25/2009 7:36:24 AM

Wow, not even a link or anything Kiwi?

Great thread.

3/25/2009 7:38:21 AM

i'm not a fucking rabbit. i don't give a damn if I live to 85 or 95. I'll eat my burgers weekly, shit a little more, have a little more body fat, and die a few years earlier - at least I'll be truly happy with my life cuisine, unlike you elitist vegetarians lying to yourselves and everyone else.

and until I can raise cattle in my apartment, i'll be shopping at the food kitty. so fuck all of you elitist dicks. bitching about mass meat production.

[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 7:48 AM. Reason : .]

3/25/2009 7:45:53 AM

The price of meat is artificially low. It should be sold for it's real price.

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3/25/2009 8:00:04 AM

no thanks, I like it cheap.

3/25/2009 8:03:20 AM

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"morally reprehensible"

3/25/2009 8:07:32 AM

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"that's why you don't eat the mass produced shit. free range ftw."

A couple points to ponder:

• Currently the US would need all the land in the entire state of Pennsylvania just to raise all the countries chickens free range.



• Without the current hog housing method, it would take more that a million square miles of land in 2050 just to house them outdoors instead of inside.



• Organic and free range have typically 1/3 the output or efficiency as traditional farming. While in the next 50 years we as a country are going to need to triple output in order to keep up with demand from a growing population.

3/25/2009 8:07:35 AM

this thread is great. kiwi posts some shit without a source or even telling where she heard it and a whole gaggle of tards comes in here and starts arguing.

3/25/2009 8:11:48 AM

^^ if we switched to free range and meat went up in price, Americans would most likely stop eating such a meat heavy diet. We eat more meat than we need as it is.

3/25/2009 8:14:51 AM

that really depends on how you define "enough" meat

i would venture to say i don't eat enough ribeyes

3/25/2009 8:15:47 AM

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"While in the next 50 years we as a country are going to need to triple output in order to keep up with demand from a growing population."

that sounds like a very very bullshit statistic.

3/25/2009 8:17:26 AM

^[citation needed]

3/25/2009 8:18:42 AM

Its a book, ( I know, seriously, who reads books. Sorry its not from wikipedia)

"Taking Sides: Clashing Views On Controversial Issues in Food and Nutrition." By Marion Nestle and L Beth Dixon.

That particular piece I quoted was from Dennis Avery.

3/25/2009 8:26:11 AM

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"no thanks, I like it cheap."

Oh, you do? Then never mind...
How silly of me to think that anything other than consumers' desire for inexpensive meat actually matters.

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"Currently the US would need all the land in the entire state of Pennsylvania just to raise all the countries chickens free range"

So? Do it. Land is expensive, so the chicken will also be more expensive -- which is good.

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"Without the current hog housing method, it would take more that a million square miles of land in 2050 just to house them outdoors instead of inside."

So? Do it. Land is expensive, so the pork will also be more expensive -- which is good.

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"Organic and free range have typically 1/3 the output or efficiency as traditional farming. While in the next 50 years we as a country are going to need to triple output in order to keep up with demand from a growing population"

For a given area of land, you can produce something like 40 times as much edible protein from growing crops than from raising livestock. Besides, we need to curb our population growth anyway. When most meat RIGHTFULLY costs $30/lb and beans still cost $1/lb, people will decide to eat much less meat -- which is good.

THE AVERAGE AMERICAN EATS TOO MUCH MEAT, RESULTING IN UNSUSTAINABLE MEAT PRODUCTION.
THIS MUST AND WILL COME TO AN END.
THE GOVERNMENT IS SUBSIDIZING AN ECOLOGICALLY HARMFUL AND UNSUSTAINABLE PRACTICE.
THIS IS WRONG -- IT, TOO, MUST AND WILL COME TO AN END.

[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 8:31 AM. Reason : ]

3/25/2009 8:26:52 AM

set em up

3/25/2009 8:27:14 AM