Holy shit, how fucking retarded is this:

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/ncsu/story/1480019.html

4/10/2009 1:59:03 PM

It's pretty fucking stupid. Next they'll be coming to message boards to shut down talks on recruiting.

4/10/2009 2:06:09 PM

until the rules catch up it looks like it needs to be done

4/10/2009 2:07:49 PM

Outdated NCAA regulations FTL.

4/10/2009 2:07:53 PM

That's pretty ridiculous. It's fucking Facebook.

4/10/2009 2:21:04 PM

Wow, NC State shit right there. I'm sure none of those other schools were contacted by the NCAA and told to take down their groups.

4/10/2009 2:27:26 PM

Quote :

"Further action against Moseley, she told The News & Observer, "could be anything from preventing him from getting student tickets to athletic contests to disassociating ourselves from him, just like we would any other booster.""

my favorite part of that article

4/10/2009 2:27:27 PM

If you do a search on facebook: John Wall UNC

There is a facebook group called "John Wall belongs at UNC" group, created by a grad student. Wonder if that will be taken down?

[Edited on April 10, 2009 at 2:31 PM. Reason : []

4/10/2009 2:30:19 PM

if the creator leaves, then it will belong to someone else, just get all ncsu students to leave the group and re-join

4/10/2009 2:34:51 PM

it's ridiculous that only State is trying to shutdown a facebook group...plus I really don't see how you can construe a student with no other involvement in the athletics department to be a representative of the athletics department...fucking stupid

4/10/2009 2:34:57 PM

this topic was discussed already in the recruiting thread.

4/10/2009 2:51:24 PM

People are posting in the Kentucky group to shut it down. Would this be considered a violation if it was created by someone unaffiliated with the school?

4/10/2009 3:01:36 PM

^ I don't think so. I think even an alumni outside of the athletics dept. would be fine. I think it was an issue because he was a student. Either way the rule is absolutely ridiculous.

4/10/2009 3:03:52 PM

So why did the school paper bring this issue up anyway? I hadn't heard anything about it until they did that. Don't they know when to shut their mouth, or are they really UNC fans too like the N&Blow?

4/10/2009 3:18:38 PM

Quote :

"individuals who would develop a social networking site or use an existing one to send recruiting messages to prospective student-athletes. Those communications are not allowed"

I guess Herb left to avoid the NCAA violations of the existance of all the 'Fire Herb' threads on TWW

4/10/2009 3:22:53 PM

who cares, it isn't like it matters in the long run. It's doubtful Wall comes here. If he does I'll likely shit my pants.

4/10/2009 3:23:50 PM

lets start a new group then, but not by a student

4/10/2009 3:33:11 PM

Quote :

" There is a facebook group called "John Wall belongs at UNC" group, created by a grad student."

SHOCKING

IF ONLY THE ARTICLE POSTED HAD FOUND THIS


oh wait

[Edited on April 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM. Reason : ^cant be a donating alum either, that is prob worse, right?]

4/10/2009 5:20:50 PM

wtf

I just searched "John Wall" on Facebook Groups and there was plenty of other groups made trying to entice Wall to come to their school

this includes a 1799 member UK group http://www.facebook.com/group.php?sid=41476a171e67124f7a4d3603c47cdade&gid=125835925077&ref=search

and this 387 member Memphis group http://www.facebook.com/s.php?init=q&q=john%20wall&ref=ts&sid=41476a171e67124f7a4d3603c47cdade&n=-1&o=4&k=200000010&sf=t#/group.php?sid=41476a171e67124f7a4d3603c47cdade&gid=52475231106&ref=search

4/10/2009 8:53:39 PM

Yeah but who is the NCAA going to come after us or Kentucky. They will come after us and schools like Dook, Kenfucky, Crapolina will continue to walk away scot free because they make them money. We don't so we are always a target of the NCAA.

4/10/2009 10:22:56 PM

there is a new group up

im sure NCSU will try to "punish" its creator who doesnt even go to state

4/11/2009 1:18:05 AM

I like how this school tries to shut down any sort of optimism surrounding it's athletic programs.

4/11/2009 10:46:28 AM

http://www.technicianonline.com/sports/facebook-you-have-one-ncaa-violation-1.1647898

technician actually scooped N&O by a couple of days on this one

[Edited on April 11, 2009 at 10:51 AM. Reason : +]

4/11/2009 10:50:31 AM

front page of SI.com

4/11/2009 11:12:02 AM

Yeah, it was definitely our own student newspaper that scooped this for some reason...

I believe it was shut down by the NCAA compliance adviser here...

Some NCAA rules are stupid (like this one) but if it is broken it's that advisers job to make sure it is fixed...

4/11/2009 11:29:50 AM

Quote :

"osted: Friday April 10, 2009 4:58PM; Updated: Friday April 10, 2009 5:52PM NCAA says facebook wooing violates recruiting rules Story Highlights An N.C. State frosh started the "John Wall PLEASE come to NC STATE!!!!" group The NCAA says such sites, wooing Wall and other top recruits, violate its rules Moseley got a cease and desist letter from N.C. State's compliance director RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- College sports fans, be careful of the company you keep on Facebook. You might get yourself -- and the program you support -- in trouble. That was the lesson this week for Taylor Moseley, a North Carolina State freshman who expressed a common-enough opinion on campus when he started the Facebook group called "John Wall PLEASE come to NC STATE!!!!" More than 700 people signed up for the group encouraging Wall -- a local standout and the nation's No. 1 basketball recruit -- to pick the Wolfpack by national signing day next week. But the NCAA says such sites, and dozens more like them wooing Wall and other top recruits, violate its rules. More than just cheerleading boards, the NCAA says the sites are an attempt to influence the college choice of a recruit. Moseley got a cease and desist letter from N.C. State's compliance director, Michelle Lee, warning of "further action" if he failed to comply. In an interview Friday, Lee said that people who act as boosters but fail to follow recruiting guidelines could face penalties such as being denied tickets or even being formally "disassociated" from the athletic program. Adam Kissel, director of the Individual Rights Defense Program at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, said the NCAA can impose rules on its member colleges. But universities -- especially public ones -- can't enforce them if it means punishing students in any way for expressing an opinion. "A student doesn't lose First Amendment rights because of a contract the university signs with (the NCAA)," he said. Moseley, the student, didn't respond to a request for comment, but the group has been renamed "Bring a National Title back to NC STATE!" and features a photo of Wall. Though Lee sent Moseley the tough warning, even she finds the rule exasperating. The NCAA, she says, simply isn't keeping up with the technology reality. "I think nationally the NCAA needs to address further Facebook and how these groups play a part in recruiting," she said. "Is it realistic for us to be able to monitor them? What harm is a group like this causing? But as the legislation stands right now, this is the position we have to take." NCAA spokesman Erik Christianson said the group considers its rules "technology neutral." A Facebook page is simply a high-tech way to try to influence recruits. The NCAA's concern is "intrusions into a high school student's life when they're trying to decide where to go to college," he said. He said the NCAA is keeping up with technology, noting new rules on text-messaging from coaches. Christianson said the NCAA expects institutions to act as N.C. State did, reaching out to the creators of such groups to "educate" them about the rules. He added he was not aware the NCAA had ever initiated any action related to a Facebook group or notified an institution about one. But dozens of Facebook groups are still up in plain site for current recruits, including Wall, and other top undecided basketball players such as Xavier Henry and Lance Stephenson. Wall, a 6-4 playmaker, averaged 21 points, seven rebounds and nine assists for Raleigh Word of God this past season. He's the No. 1-ranked recruit in the country by both Rivals.com and Scout.com, and among the last top players yet to commit. A Facebook search reveals groups including "Bring John Wall to Baylor," "John Wall Belongs at UNC" and "John Wall, come to DUKE!!" There are at least four groups encouraging Wall to pick Kentucky. Through an athletic department spokesman, UK head of compliance Sandy Bell declined to comment on whether the department has taken any action in response to such groups. Facebook did not respond to an e-mailed request for comment. Kissel, of the education rights group, and Aden Fine of the American Civil Liberties Union, said that while the NCAA -- a private entity -- could pursue sanctions against a student like Moseley (such as denying him access to an entirely NCAA-run event), it was troubling that the letter and threatened sanction came from the university. "The school is potentially finding themselves in a tricky situation, because of the NCAA rules, but that doesn't mean public universities can censor lawful speech," Fine said. Christianson dismissed the free speech argument, saying courts have upheld the NCAA's right to set recruiting rules for members. "We don't see it as a free speech issue. What we do see it as is a recruiting issue," he said. "We want to be sure that we limit that level of intrusion that comes into their lives." Copyright 2009 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. "

4/11/2009 3:35:41 PM

probably got scooped because the local news media has been too busy following the unc basketball team around all week

4/11/2009 3:37:04 PM

I noticed that the cocksuckers at technician didn't even bother to search for other wall groups from other schools even though it's a simple thing to do and obvious thing to do.

No daily tarhell, throwing own school under the bus. Nice staff we have there, now.

4/12/2009 12:48:53 PM

there was a daily tarhell this year.

and it was our own staff who shut down the site. they were trying to prevent some NCSTATE SHIT from happening to us.

oh yeah and:

Quote :

"But dozens of Facebook groups are still up in plain site for current recruits, including Wall, and other top undecided basketball players such as Xavier Henry and Lance Stephenson."

Quote :

"There are at least four groups encouraging Wall to pick Kentucky. Through an athletic department spokesman, UK head of compliance Sandy Bell declined to comment on whether the department has taken any action in response to such groups."

did you even read the article?

oh was the second not a technician article? my bad. this is why people should include links when they quote articles.

[Edited on April 12, 2009 at 12:57 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on April 12, 2009 at 1:00 PM. Reason : .]

4/12/2009 12:54:41 PM

Why didnt that kid take this to a lawyer and see if he could sue NCAA for threatening to take away his First Amendment Rights?

I'm pretty sure Free Speech > Recruiting Violation

4/12/2009 1:30:43 PM

because it's facebook and who gives a shit

4/12/2009 1:44:18 PM

looks like the facebook group didnt work

4/6/2010 11:42:54 PM

wait what the hell just happened, how did you bump this...

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 11:48 PM. Reason : premium users can now bump threads up to a year old]

4/6/2010 11:45:52 PM

i, too, just checked the moderator list

4/6/2010 11:48:11 PM

TT10 = NEW MOD EXPOSED !?!?!?!

4/6/2010 11:48:56 PM

damn ncsuftw, you could have let my charade go on for a few more minutes

4/6/2010 11:49:31 PM

4/6/2010 11:55:55 PM

cj leslie's facebook wall is pretty hilarious right now

4/7/2010 8:18:12 AM

FLEX ON EM POUND ON EM ERRY BODY DO THA JOHN WALL

4/7/2010 9:53:20 AM

Is this not a violation of 1st amendment rights???

This freshman is not a legal spokesman of the school so how is this a NCAA violation.

4/7/2010 12:32:39 PM