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"The RNC meeting wraps up on Wednesday with a scheduled vote on a controversial resolution that calls on Democrats to rename their party the "Democrat Socialist Party.""

This motion seems absurd and more about posturing and increasing incendiary partisan rhetoric than anything practical or useful.

The humor I found in this agenda was that it was juxtaposed with Michael Steeles words from Tuesday's speech.

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""We are going to take this President on with class, we are going to take this President on with dignity," Steele will say. "This will be a very sharp and marked contrast to the shabby and classless way that the Democrats and the far left spoke of the last President."

5/19/2009 10:13:50 AM

its. about. getting. press.

5/19/2009 10:44:18 AM

Can we rename the Republican part the Fascism party or the NeoImperalist party?

If we are going to call names and generalize a party that is essentially a big tent of various political ideals than we can do the same for the GOP.

5/19/2009 11:11:09 AM

well, if nothing else, the Republicans and talk show hosts have done a great job at stripping any legitimate meaning the word "socialism" ever had. Somehow I doubt that anyone who has lived through or under real Socialism would recognize the way it's being used now

5/19/2009 11:17:47 AM

so·cial·ism   (so'sh?-liz'?m)   <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/ahd4/pronkey.html> http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif  
n.  

* Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
* The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

5/19/2009 11:28:26 AM

When you can't re-brand yourselves... re-brand the enemy?

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"Can we rename the Republican part the Fascism party or the NeoImperalist party?"

Personally I think the Imperial Theocratic Party would be a nice fit for them.

[Edited on May 19, 2009 at 1:31 PM. Reason : .]

5/19/2009 1:31:26 PM

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"Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy."

Under that definition of socialism, it does seem like we're moving in that direction. Though, we're so far from the government owning all means of production that it's hyperbole at best.

5/19/2009 1:44:06 PM

Michael Steele was giving a speech in the background when I was at lunch. I heard several eye-roll worthy sound bites

Talking about how Republicans are going to stop apologizing for past mistakes, or looking backwards at all - "The time for introspection is over. No more introspection"

and "For so long, the Democrats have been using misdirection and misleading comments to demonize Republicans. Well, we can use misdirection too"

5/19/2009 1:45:31 PM

the republicans have this weird counterbalence where their conservative policies appeal to a majority of people but their PR is just for shit

if you want to call them socialists JUST CALL THEM SOCIALISTS

don't be all whacky with it just demagogue the shit out of them

5/19/2009 1:54:33 PM

^^There comes a point at which it just becomes TOO EASY to mock them, and then it's not funny anymore.

Sadly, fellow Americans, we have reached that point.
It is a dark day.

5/19/2009 1:56:30 PM

The saddest part is there are plenty of people that are probably rallying around this and actually believe in what the party is doing.

5/19/2009 2:24:39 PM

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"Personally I think the Imperial Theocratic Party would be a nice fit for them."

Shh! Sarah Palin doesn't want the name of her ticket leaking out yet! Wait until 2011!

On a serious note, I felt like after this past November there was going to be a complete party split between the religious right and the fiscally tight. ITP is a great name for the former...people who don't give a shit about the country as long as Jesus is a part of it!

5/19/2009 2:29:12 PM

I really don't understand where they're trying to go with it... their strategy for expanding the party seems to be primarily "appeal harder to our base", as though pandering even more to the fanatics they already have is somehow going to draw all new fanatics out of the woodwork.

5/19/2009 2:29:59 PM

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"^^There comes a point at which it just becomes TOO EASY to mock them, and then it's not funny anymore. "

i just remembered another subject Steele harped on for a while during the speech.
He feigned shock and surprise, and said something like "There are those on the other side who claim that it is un-patriotic to challenge the President or offer dissent to the majority! Well, I claim it is, in fact, our patriotic duty to challenge those in power!"

The crowd clapped enthusiastically, apparently completely unaware of the irony that Steele might as well have been reading directly from a liberal talking-points memo from anytime between 2002 and 2008.

5/19/2009 2:43:17 PM

just be glad neither of these parties are particularly overwhelmingly competent

we wouldn't really want that... you know

because when a party hits on the pulse of a nation and goes well with it

they tend to... take over

5/19/2009 2:49:28 PM

Can we rename it the Social Democrats and then have them actually be social democrats

5/19/2009 3:52:02 PM

too much consistency for american political flavor

5/19/2009 4:11:54 PM

Not that there isn't a plethora of evidence already, but this is just one more sign that the Republican Party has pretty much imploded.

5/19/2009 5:23:11 PM

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"He feigned shock and surprise, and said something like "There are those on the other side who claim that it is are un-patriotic to challenge the Republican President or offer dissent to the majority! Well, I claim it is, in fact, our patriotic duty to challenge unconditionally support those in power!" "

I fixed this for you for what our Card Toting Republican Friends before Jan 20th 2009 would have said. Sadly plenty of people would buy into Steele's speech completely forgetting that 6 years ago they were screaming "If you dun like it den ye can git der fuck out!"

[Edited on May 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM. Reason : a]

5/19/2009 5:28:05 PM

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"means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government "

more like

the temporary provision of capital to support the means of producing and distributing goods

because that's actually what is happening right now.

amirite?

yes i'm is!

5/19/2009 5:59:31 PM

This is relevant to the interests of Carol Browner, Obama's "climate czar."

5/19/2009 7:48:43 PM

way to go, guys. way to make yourselves look a whole lot more viable by calling the other side names... jeez. and they wonder why they are getting slaughtered in the voting booth

5/20/2009 7:50:58 PM

^^other members past and present of the SOCIALIST International:











oops, forgot to study our international politics before posting! what blog did you grab that from anyway, LGF? Michelle Malkin?

[Edited on May 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM. Reason : .]

5/22/2009 2:13:54 PM

^ And how does this change my point? FTR, I don't read any blogs.

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"The Socialist International is the worldwide organisation of social democratic, socialist and labour parties."

http://www.socialistinternational.org/about.cfm

[Edited on May 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM. Reason : Is Nelson "Mandingo" a member?]

5/23/2009 11:26:39 AM

So what's the similarity between Tony Blair and Hugo Chavez? The only way this is pertinent is if it's ending in the implementation of a radical left agenda (aka SOCIALISMMMMM), otherwise you're just trying to create a boogeyman by using the term SOCIALIST to attach to a segment of left-leaning politicians even though people like Blair, Brown, Ehud Barak, and others in this group hardly resemble socialists (ala collectivization, nationalization, etc).

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

And if you aren't a big blog follower, why is it that all your memes (omg nancy pelosi is ugly, lol), crappy photoshopped pictures (ROSIE ODONNEL SAUSAGE FINGERS!), and many of your posts mirror those found on other silly boards and blogs? Coincidence?

Is generating post content worthy of Free Republic and creating left wing boogeymen a part of the curriculum for your self-designed Liberal Studies degree?

5/23/2009 3:00:56 PM

bwahaha its like the 3rd grade

5/23/2009 3:19:07 PM

welcome back hooksaw. you might think you're a patriot, but i'm the American Dream

5/23/2009 3:20:26 PM

^ I'll try again:

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"And how does this change my point? FTR, I don't read any blogs. 'The Socialist International is the worldwide organisation of social democratic, socialist and labour parties.' http://www.socialistinternational.org/about.cfm [Edited on May 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM. Reason : Is Nelson 'Mandingo' a member?]"

5/23/2009 7:16:36 PM

The British Labor party is NOTHING like the American Democrat Party.

The British "Conservative" party is more of a bigger dominant Libertarian Party instead of a GOP

5/23/2009 7:43:38 PM

^ And?

Maybe some of you don't remember Browner's EPA days because you were still playing with your TMNT dolls, but I remember. She was one who was okay with regulating lawn mowers, wood-burning fireplaces, and barbecue grills, among other things. You can have my Weber grill when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

And what about this clear conflict of interest?

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"Ms. Browner also sits on the board of APX, which specializes in handling cap-and-trade emission credits, as well as several environment groups."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/12/us/politics/12climate.html

[Edited on May 24, 2009 at 11:18 PM. Reason : I would assume that she had stepped down from board memberships, but I can't find this resignation.]

5/24/2009 11:15:39 PM

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" MY WEBER GRILL"

5/25/2009 1:07:12 AM

^ Do you have anything to offer on the topic or my post other than that trinket?

5/25/2009 8:58:27 AM

I don't think you're going to figure it out from me, so you should probably go read some European thoughts on this. The "Socialist" parties in the SI are socialist in name only no matter what it says on their website. Labour still calls themselves "democratic socialist", but that term is about as useless as "progressive" is here. If a party is socialist, they will have socialist principles.

Who privatized more things in Britain: Thatcher or Blair?

This is pretty emblematic of his era: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1406040.stm

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"The British Labor party is NOTHING like the American Democrat Party. The British "Conservative" party is more of a bigger dominant Libertarian Party instead of a GOP"

No way, not at all. Labour is a "3rd Way" party that basically supports the welfare state along with private industry. Social Democrat is a more accurate term, but even still, they've done quite a bit of deregulating and privatizing. I'd say they advocate for just a little more state involvement in the economy right now than what we'd consider a "liberal" Dem.

And the Tories aren't a libertarian party, what the hell are you talking about? They actually make sense from time to time, support more regressive crime policies, supported the Iraq war, want to keep the NHS around, and are actually taking the lead on climate issues as of recently.

They're actually almost decent.

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"And what about this clear conflict of interest?"

Conflicts of interest? Among political appointments? No way, dude!

Seriously, where were you when all that shit was going down at the Dept. of Interior?

[Edited on May 26, 2009 at 2:39 PM. Reason : .]

5/26/2009 2:33:07 PM

http://www.nsm88.org/

Maybe they can merge with the Nationalist Socialist Party?

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"New Item Icon NSM Springfield will hold a Protest Against Homosexuals "

Maybe the Republicans are the real socialists

5/26/2009 2:40:23 PM

Stop being such a millennial and get back to discussing how the Obama agenda will kill us all because it is promoting "global warming".

5/26/2009 2:57:27 PM

The RNC already has a hold on Red as their theme color, so what color is the socialist party going to use?

6/3/2009 3:04:05 PM

We have the world's political colors backwards. Everywhere else it's red=left, blue=right. How'd that happen?

6/3/2009 6:26:45 PM

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"the Tories aren't a libertarian party, what the hell are you talking about? They actually make sense from time to time, support more regressive crime policies, supported the Iraq war, want to keep the NHS around, and are actually taking the lead on climate issues as of recently."

Was not labour parties Tony Blair homeboys with George Dubya until parliament gave him the boot.

6/3/2009 6:47:33 PM

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"Was not labour parties Tony Blair homeboys with George Dubya until parliament gave him the boot."

what the hell does this even mean?

Tony Blair was a member of Labour but represented a more centrist wing that took over the party in the 80s and 90s. He allied with Bush on Iraq. He got the boot after wearing out his welcome in parliament. Or something to that extent.

6/3/2009 7:14:55 PM

6/4/2009 10:05:08 PM

^
Do you have a ball that shows the percentage of US industry that is regulated and basically controlled by the US gov't?

Manufacturing, Retailing, Medicine, Food, Clothing, Housing, etc.

6/4/2009 10:39:57 PM