bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
[old] obviously but I have some questions about this movie that aren't entirely relevant to the thread on the newest movie.
i just watched this for the first time in maybe 10 years and didn't understand a few things.
1) why didn't the bug kill Checkov? wasn't it supposed to dig deeper into his head? instead it just crawled right out when he started to disobey.
2) did spock design the kobyashi mission or didn't he? there was no suggestion that he was the engineer behind the test in this film, but everything else fit with the new story.
3) if kahn was supposed to have such a superior intellect, why did kahn's pilot know way more about space than kahn did?
4) why would anyone ever cast kirstie ally in ANY role? she shows more emotion int he first 10 minutes than spock did in his entire life, yet Spock is the one who is half-human. She was playing a full Vulcan and did not show the typical Vulcan behavior and logic until halfway through the movie. 6/4/2009 3:26:48 AM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
1 i am sure someone can answer easy
2. i didnt know he was the one that did it...and not everything fit, because in kahn it sounded bad ass, but in the new one, they explained it very gayly
3. maybe kahn is captain cause he has superior intellect, even though the other dude knows more about space?
4. i wasnt bothered by kristie alley 6/4/2009 3:37:09 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
KAAAAAAaaaaaaahhhnnn!
6/4/2009 3:56:41 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "3) if kahn was supposed to have such a superior intellect, why did kahn's pilot know way more about space than kahn did?" |
Spock says it while they are in the nebula. While far more intelligent; Kahn lacks Experience.6/4/2009 7:25:53 AM |
daalians All American 557 Posts user info edit post |
After explaining how kahn thinks in 2d, why did enterprise rise back up to the same level to shoot them as opposed to rotating their ship from below to shoot? 6/4/2009 8:26:22 AM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "she shows more emotion int he first 10 minutes than spock did in his entire life, yet Spock is the one who is half-human. She was playing a full Vulcan and did not show the typical Vulcan behavior and logic until halfway through the movie." |
They cut out a scene that explained that Saavik is half-Romulan.6/4/2009 8:29:51 AM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "2) did spock design the kobyashi mission or didn't he? there was no suggestion that he was the engineer behind the test in this film, but everything else fit with the new story." |
whether he did or not in the original canon is irrelevant to the new film because in the new film they're in a different timeline (one that got changed because of the attack on the Kelvin)6/4/2009 8:33:09 AM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why didn't the bug kill Checkov? wasn't it supposed to dig deeper into his head? instead it just crawled right out when he started to disobey." |
"There are pets, of course...not quite domesticated."
Quote : | "After explaining how kahn thinks in 2d, why did enterprise rise back up to the same level to shoot them as opposed to rotating their ship from below to shoot?" |
That Enterprise model was notoriously difficult to film, even to create basic maneuvers. I'm gonna guess that has something to do with it - having it just rise straight up and down was probably easier to do.6/4/2009 8:41:00 AM |
darscuzlo All American 1257 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "4) why would anyone ever cast kirstie ally in ANY role? she shows more emotion int he first 10 minutes than spock did in his entire life, yet Spock is the one who is half-human. She was playing a full Vulcan and did not show the typical Vulcan behavior and logic until halfway through the movie." |
because back then she fuckable 6/4/2009 8:50:52 AM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
Khan Khan Khan KHan
Not Kahn. That would probably be the wrath of some Jewish dude. 6/4/2009 2:47:29 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Kirstie Alley was a babe back in the day.
Before she ate Shelly Long, I mean. 6/4/2009 2:57:08 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Not Kahn. That would probably be the wrath of some Jewish dude." |
bdmazur6/4/2009 2:57:40 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
to add drama or artistic license.
or maybe the starships rotation thrusters were still broken from the earlier attack.
i think u are looking to much into it 6/4/2009 3:01:21 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I think the Kobayashi Maru just grew into such a big part of Trek canon that they were basically obligated to throw it into any film about Kirk at the academy. 6/4/2009 3:03:04 PM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
appropriate...6/4/2009 3:10:45 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Kirstie Alley was a babe back in the day.
Before she ate Shelly Long, I mean." |
too true
i get the woman in witness, Kelly McGillis, switched from time to time... funny how her tits in top gun seemed smaller than in witness too... meh.6/4/2009 3:31:04 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
^ isn't she a lesbian now? i think i heard that on the radio 6/4/2009 3:43:54 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, she just announced it a week or two ago.
I think she's just pulling an Anne Heche after some bad cock. 6/4/2009 4:10:23 PM |
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rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/06/the_genius_of_william_shatner.html 6/4/2009 11:16:38 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
6/5/2009 12:21:53 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Not Kahn. That would probably be the wrath of some Jewish dude." |
Haha, love it.
[Edited on June 5, 2009 at 1:09 AM. Reason : -]6/5/2009 1:08:26 AM |