I bought a new TV so i am just trying to move this one out. It is a 19 inch LCD, 720p, Magnavox. Awesome picture and good sounds. I have had zero problems with it over the past year. There is also two years left on the extended warranty. Asking $200 or best offer. If interested or want a picture, email me at catesar@ncsu.edu.

Thanks

6/13/2009 10:52:33 PM

Not to bust your bubble but I bought this exact one around Christmas for $189....with that said I'll bid $40

6/14/2009 1:31:55 PM

50

6/14/2009 1:43:34 PM

Ha, why the heck would i give it to you for 40 if i started it at 200.

6/14/2009 6:42:16 PM

because that TV isn't worth $200?

6/14/2009 6:45:15 PM

$200 is a joke. put a realistic starting price if you want any realistic interest.

6/14/2009 6:52:16 PM

Considering the fact that i spent 350 for it and got a 20 dollar warranty for it, that is realistic. I would be willing to sell it for 150, but 40 or 50 is stupid. You are just trying to start something.

6/14/2009 6:58:28 PM

sounds like you paid too much then

6/14/2009 7:05:55 PM

when did you spend $350 for a 19" LCD? 2002?

6/14/2009 7:06:08 PM

Last summer. And with that note, i am going to keep it. I'm tired of listening people who are obviously not interested comment on how expensive it is.

6/14/2009 7:23:31 PM

i am very interested, but you made your lack of interest in negotiating the price so evident that i didn't even bother offering you what most folks would consider to be a reasonable price

6/14/2009 7:25:34 PM

Ok, so what is a reasonable price? i said best offer and 50 dollars is not reasonable to me.

6/14/2009 7:59:22 PM

well that's no reason to get bent out of shape

it's just a lowball. don't take it personal. just pass it by.

first thing you need to learn is that something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

6/14/2009 8:31:28 PM

I asked how much you would pay for it. I did not ask for sales or bargaining advice.

6/14/2009 8:34:32 PM

if it was me, if i got an offer of $100 i'd take it and run

i'd give $75

[Edited on June 14, 2009 at 8:40 PM. Reason : you can get a brand new one for $200 now]

6/14/2009 8:39:26 PM

nvm then

6/14/2009 8:46:53 PM

$40.01

6/14/2009 8:49:28 PM

The cheapest i will go is $150. Bottom line!

6/14/2009 9:03:22 PM

catesar, you obviously do not know anything about economics. what you paid for something has no effect on the resale price. no one is trying to start anything. they are simply pointing out that your expectations are far-fetched. no one cares what you paid for it. it doesn't matter. what matters is its current market value, considering its specs, age, use, availability, and in which marketplace you are trying to sell said item.

6/14/2009 9:06:09 PM

wdprice3 thank you for your wonderful business advice, but I really do not need what you have learned in college about the economy or business. I want to sell my TV for $150. If no one feels like that is a fair deal than i will keep it because it is worth that much to me.

6/14/2009 9:10:52 PM

catesar thank you for your snide remarks. what I posted above was not included in any of my college courses, it's more common sense than anything else. I would like to tell you good luck, but again, what you want to sell it for has no bearing on what others are willing to pay. furthermore, I wish you the best of luck in learning English, what I assume to be your first language, as I am certain that you meant then rather than "than".

6/14/2009 9:16:50 PM

I actually changed the than, because i knew you and your college education would feel very compelled to comment on my lack of English proficiency. I am glad i have someone so full of knowledge here to help me learn English and proper economic strategy in todays ever changing world.

6/14/2009 9:21:02 PM

classifieds has been bringing some serious lols here lately

fuck you and your college education lololololololol

[Edited on June 14, 2009 at 9:33 PM. Reason : i'm rolling over here]

6/14/2009 9:33:08 PM

Freshmen get soooo pissy on here. Its T-dub. If your tv is worth that to you then keep it don't get pissed at us. If people don't want to save $50 and bail you out on a 1 year old used 19in tv then sorry. Don't go "I hate all of you and your education" and then threaten to keep your tv.

6/14/2009 11:10:44 PM

I did not say hate. Also i do not know how me trying to sale my tv went to someone else giving me advice on how to sale it or mr. ecofsilence thinking anyone cares about what he has to say. You really had nothing better to do, so you read this whole classified ad.

6/15/2009 1:08:18 AM

this kid is pure gold



i could use this TV, i'll consider paying your $150 if your answer to the following question is correct with sound reasoning:

if you put an airplane on a treadmill, and set the speed of the treadmill to exactly match that of the plane but the opposing direction, will the plane take off?

6/15/2009 5:45:46 AM

This thread is fucking fantastic. Its an obvious lay to swindle.

I may bought your TV from you if you can answer this question?

How is babby saled?

[Edited on June 15, 2009 at 7:24 AM. Reason : ]

6/15/2009 7:21:57 AM

model #? I could use an extra monitor.

6/15/2009 7:27:15 AM

cate is a girl's name.

6/15/2009 8:57:22 AM

10/10

6/15/2009 9:42:50 AM

I think Dell has all their 20" monitors on sale for $89 Wednesday, it's not the same but that's a damn good deal.

6/15/2009 10:46:12 AM

Quote :

"trying to sale my tv"

please learn english

6/15/2009 11:03:29 AM

I saw quite a few LCD 720p HDTV's just like this at Walmart for a good bit under $200 NEW.


Nobody is angry at the kid and nobody is trying to rip him off, but it's insane to think that he wants to get what a new one is worth. It'd be easier to just go down to walmart and spend a few extra dollars to have yourself a brand new one.


The purpose of buying a used item is to save money. If the buyer isn't going to save a good bit over a new one, then there's no incentive to purchase your TV son.

This isn't something you have to go to college to learn son. It's simple common sense. If I offer you a 2 hour old hamburger for $3 are you seriously going to take it when you could just go buy a fresh one for the same price?! Unless the hamburger is going to be lowered to $0.50 it's not worth it son. Not worth it.

6/15/2009 3:02:18 PM

son.

6/15/2009 3:24:54 PM

Man, people have nothing better to do in their free time, except bitch, bitch, and of course bitch some more. Saabturbo, please go get a job or something. If you just so happened to stumble upon this thread and decided to put up an argument about burgers there is something very important missing in your life, SEX.

6/15/2009 4:13:43 PM

HAHAHAHA

Wow

6/15/2009 4:22:47 PM

this dude is hilarious

6/15/2009 4:30:31 PM

my offer stands

6/15/2009 5:28:56 PM

I know you thought i wouldn't find the answer, but Google works wonders.


First some basic principles of flight, lift, and thrust:

* A plane takes off when it has sufficient “lift”.
* “Lift” is created by the speed that air passes under and over a properly angled wing.
* Lift occurs when the plane achieves a certain thrust relative to the air.
* Thrust comes from the engines of the plane.
* Lift and thrust does not depend on the speed of the plane relative to the runway.
* Lift and thrust also does not depend on the speed of which the wheels are turning.
* It is true that a sufficiently strong gust of wind could cause an airplane to achieve lift, and as a result, “fly”. Albeit in an uncontrolled manner.



And now some basic principles of how planes fly:

* Planes do not have motors for their wheels. This is why they are tugged around by those weird machines across runways. Thrust does not come from the plane’s wheels.
* Planes move via their engine thrust, which push backwards on the air. Thanks to Good ol’ Newton and his Third Law of Motion, this will result in an equal and opposite force (opposite being forward) which sends the plane flying in the proper direction.
* Jet engines do not traditionally fly by pushing air downwards, with the exception of vertical takeoff. Airplanes achieve upward speed via lift.
* Also, Jet engines do not produce wind themselves, but rather use the prexisting air around them. For the most part, all engines do is push the plane forward.
* The speed of the the runway (in treadmill form or not) and the speed of the air are independent. So even if the runway is moving really fast (in treadmill form), it will not affect the wind-based mechanics of an airplane.



The trick in the problem is that the method that the conveyor belt is being used to “exactly match the forward speed of the wheels” is not defined:

1. The treadmill could be moving backwards at the same speed the wheels of the plane are moving forward. This would be true of a treadmill with no motor.
2. The treadmill could be moving backward at the same speed as the plane is moving forward relative to the ground. (If the plane moves 5mph forward relative to the ground, the treadmill is set to move 5mph backward.)
3. The treadmill could be moving backward at the same speed as the plane is moving forward relative to the treadmill. (If the plane moves 5mph forward relative to the ground, the treadmill is set to move 5mph backward, which would create a plane moving 10mph relative to the treadmill.)


Treadmill with No Motor

The way this works is as the plane accelerates, it moves forward at an increasing speed. The treadmill, pushed by the thrust, moves backwards at an increasing speed. The plane takes off fine. As we noted before, the airplane does not move via it’s wheels, therefore the plane will still achieve adequate thrust from the power of the engines. Those things are producing a quarter of a million pounds of thrust all time, regardless of whether the plane is moving forward or not.


Treadmill Moves the Opposite of the Plane’s Speed Relative to the Ground

The plane still takes off fine. Again, the airplane is not moving via the wheels. The additional backwards motion of the treadmill will make the wheels spin twice as fast, but the engines will still achieve thrust.


Treadmill Moves the Opposite of the Plane’s Speed Relative to the Treadmill

This is where things start to blow up. This interpretation is the only interpretation that would create for a perfectly stationary plane. Except there’s a big problem. Assume the airplane accelerates to an arbitrary five kilometers per hour forward.



The treadmill then reacts and starts moving five kilometers per hour backward. This means that the speed of the airplane relative to the treadmill, or the difference between the two speeds, is ten kilometers per hour. Thus the treadmill reacts and starts moving ten kilometers per hour backwards. Of course this means the speed of the airplane relative to the treadmill is now 15km/hr. This makes for an infinite cycle.

This also means the wheels blow off. Which means the plane falls down. Which means it’s not going anywhere. …Except backward off the treadmill.

…And into a giant ball of fire… visible from space.



So…

If you subscribe to interpretation #1 or #2, the plane can take off. If you subscribe to interpretation #3, it does not. This is where the argument comes from. Both answers are technically correct.

Except, of course, when you take this into reality with a real treadmill, because then all the millions of other factors (axle friction, ground friction, air resistance, wind, imperfections in matching treadmill speed, etc.) come in and cause havoc.

6/15/2009 5:34:14 PM

well I wasn't expecting you to find an answer, more that you came up with your own. I am impressed with your diligence, however.

What is your answer to the interpretation that you choose?

6/15/2009 5:55:26 PM

Since 2 out of the 3 work, i am going to say it will take-off. Since i did learn probability in 2nd grade.

6/15/2009 6:00:12 PM

does the airplane come with the TV? or is that extra?

6/15/2009 6:11:14 PM

PLEASE POST PICS OF AIRPLANE

6/15/2009 6:24:41 PM

[Edited on June 15, 2009 at 7:07 PM. Reason : .]

6/15/2009 6:45:33 PM

I figured you rednecks would love to buy this.

[Edited on June 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM. Reason : add detail]

6/15/2009 7:12:57 PM

now that is worth $200

6/15/2009 7:15:26 PM

italics is for fags

6/15/2009 7:19:06 PM

ahahahahaha

6/15/2009 7:19:49 PM

time to move this to chit chat

6/15/2009 7:28:24 PM

TV=$150.

6/15/2009 7:30:18 PM