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zxappeal
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Yeah, like I need to get in some serious shape, but there are issues like lacking the energy and motivation to get over the hump and get in the groove.

Any of you in the RTP or Brier Creek area and either interested in doing the same or doing a little fitness coaching and motivation? And if any of you are Gold's members @ RTP, that's a big plus.

Yes, I'm being serious.

8/27/2009 11:57:05 AM

zxappeal
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ain't nobody read this thread? Shit. C'mon people. Help a brotha out.

8/27/2009 1:07:50 PM

God
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I used to be a member at the Gold's Gym at Page Rd. I quit after I realized it wasn't worth the money.

8/27/2009 1:16:53 PM

zxappeal
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Dude, I'm paid for a year. Cut a large amount off the total, but still wasn't real cheap. That's the one.

8/27/2009 1:21:34 PM

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Oh, well. I go to the gym at my apartment complex, sorry.

8/27/2009 1:22:27 PM

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I'm the same way when I work out. I need a goal/motivation.

I've found that if I actually write down exactly how many sets of an exercise I'm going to do, I'm a lot more likely to follow through with them all. Otherwise I might cheat myself and once things get HARD, I'll subconsciously tell myself it's ok to stop.

I try and plan everything out in a small notebook and take that to the gym with me. It keeps me honest.

8/27/2009 1:30:02 PM

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my motivation for working out has a lot to do with looking at the general population of adults 10, 20, 30 years older than me and seeing what people turn out like who don't eat right and take care of their bodies

EDIT: but yes, personal goals help. And especially at first, just work HARD to make sure its a routine. Pick certain days of the week that you are almost always free and lock in your times and try not to let them slip. Sure its ok to skip now and then to spend time with friends who invite you out or something, but it gets really easy to get out of the habit if you start missing a day here or a day there early on.



[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 1:41 PM. Reason : ]

8/27/2009 1:30:44 PM

tnezami
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^agreed.

8/27/2009 1:32:58 PM

God
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Here you go, use this:

5/14/2006 - 196 lbs



8/26/2009 - 169 lbs

8/27/2009 1:33:14 PM

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begonias

(not free)

8/27/2009 1:35:25 PM

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you can come to my fitness classes (free), and I'm a personal trainer (not free, but will barter)

8/27/2009 1:45:51 PM

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He doesn't need aerobics. He needs to be strong as fuck.

8/27/2009 1:50:16 PM

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no, he needs to lose weight.

8/27/2009 1:51:50 PM

God
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If he loses weight without building muscle, he's going to look like shit.

8/27/2009 1:52:12 PM

zxappeal
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begonias...you have a PM.

BTW...I have a lot of muscle already, though lots untoned. I need aerobic exercise for cardio AND weight loss. There's a potential six pack underneath the layer of fluff around my midsection.

Not to mention, I'd like to see my penis again. begonias, you didn't read that. This is totally bidness in case you'd be spooked.

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 1:58 PM. Reason : LOL]

8/27/2009 1:56:16 PM

God
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She's not going to barter sex for fitness lessons.

8/27/2009 1:56:51 PM

zxappeal
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^Read my edit.

Don't need sex! I has a GF.

8/27/2009 1:59:21 PM

God
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I'm not sure you understand the principles behind weight loss. "Toning" is really a misnomer, and weight lifting will get you as much, if not more, benefits to your body image as cardiovascular exercise. If you want to improve your cardiovascular system, yes, by all means go run. But if you want to improve how you look, weight lifting is the answer. I seriously doubt you have "lots of muscle" if you're referring to it as "untoned." Aerobics aren't going to help you at all in that department.

8/27/2009 2:17:48 PM

zxappeal
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Dude, let me lay it out for you. I am DIESEL. Or reasonably so. But my cardiovascular health sucks. I have very little endurance anymore. I have a lot of fluff that needs to come off.

Weight loss can be expressed most simply using the Conservation of Energy Principle (the 1st law of thermogoddammits). Net energy content intake - net energy expended = net gain/loss.

Primarily, one must either cut back on caloric intake, perform work to accelerate rate of energy burn, or both. In order to optimally lose weight, it's best to build muscle and improve the efficiency of your cardiovascular system. I think we're simply arguing semantics here, and the overall goal is to improve my delivery of energy to muscle tissue, improve my heart and vascular health, and to lose weight. Oh, and to see my peter once again.

8/27/2009 2:41:54 PM

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I doubt you're "diesel" if you can't see your genitals due to your fat. What are your numbers on bench/squat/deadlift? If that is your problem, than your issue is not about doing cardiovascular fitness but about reducing your caloric intake.

If you don't work your muscles to hypertrophy, then they will begin to atrophy. You may lose weight, but you will have flabby skin sitting over extremely small amounts of muscle.

Would you rather have the body of a sprinter or that of a distance runner? One of these is ripped, the other is overly skinny. One of these does strength training, the other does large amounts of cardiovascular activity.

8/27/2009 2:50:27 PM

zxappeal
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I need a balance in between.

Bench...I dunno, it's been awhile. I'd probably have a hard time doing over 225 right now. Maybe 250.

Deadlift, probably in the neighborhood of 400 to 500.

The last I checked, I was able to do 1100 pound leg presses. I haven't lost much if any of that.

8/27/2009 2:54:31 PM

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What I'm saying is that, if you want to "not get out of breath," you can supplement a strength training program with cardio (say, a 1 mile jog on rest days), but the bulk of your physical body changes are going to come from strength training. If your goal is to get rid of the large amounts of fat on your body, you are going to get it much faster from strength training, and look better in the end.

8/27/2009 2:55:31 PM

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i'll offer a couple of tips...

- get a personal trainer so you have a commitment to meet some one or take a class like linda said

- pack you gym bag with you and take it with you to work. go straight to the gym after work. i've found it hard to go to the gym and leave the house once i've gotten home from work

- get plenty of sleep. no one wants to go to the gym if they are tired.

- keep at it. once you get into the habit of going you'll want to keep going and you'll feel like shit if you miss a day.

8/27/2009 2:56:32 PM

CalledToArms
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also as far as lacking energy goes, its sorta counter intuitive too...assuming I am getting decent sleep and eating right, I have MORE energy when I am consistently going to the gym than when I am not.

8/27/2009 3:05:35 PM

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Quote :
"This is totally bidness in case you'd be spooked."

not even you can spook her

8/27/2009 3:13:31 PM

zxappeal
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Hahahaha...you don't think so? I've never been called creepy, but I have been called loud, brash, off the chain, crazy as hell, bouncin' off the walls, etc. My GF describes me as a person you either love or hate with no in-between.

8/27/2009 3:44:33 PM

Igor
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hey Dan, you were looking pretty sharp in them wedding pics [no homo]... Your girl need to learn to appreciate the good things in life 'fore you send her ass packin!

8/27/2009 7:09:07 PM

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^ [pre-emptive no-homo] I as well was impressed with dan's appearance in the wedding pic

8/27/2009 7:48:52 PM

PackMan92
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I, too, am a personal trainer

8/27/2009 7:52:35 PM

AntiMnifesto
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Not like this is for everyone...but I find having 2 dogs anxious to go out and walk or run
gets me motivated. At least someone's excited about the workout.

Also, definitely get some non-flaky friends to work out with you. Will bring out the competitive
side for sure.

8/27/2009 8:49:33 PM

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i'd be happy to be a cardio buddy on Sundays if you want to improve CV health...it's my only rest day of the week in my new HST, low volume, high frequency program...I do live in the Brier Creek area...been trying to find a time with some other TWWers to do some running @ Umstead. Nothing too intense though....likely in the 5k range @ 30min, ~10min/mile. I do HIIT for cardio in the pool during the week.

As far as lifting/weight loss, I could guide you too but I'm no personal trainer, although I've taken the prep class for ACE certification, just never went through with it. Took it mostly for my benefit, rather than getting a job in the field. Since Jan 08, I've lost over 110lbs and nearly tripled my starting strength on the majority of the lifts that count. From my experience, I'd attribute 90% of my success to diet and willpower, viewing exercise as just a means for expending calories. I'm no nutritionist by any stretch of imagination but I do agree with you, so long as you've created that caloric deficit, you should net results. I used to try all these keto/warrior/caveman diets with the same deficit as traditional diets, sure I'd see some immediate weight loss, not real weight loss though, and in the end of the month long cycle on the diet, the results were really no different than the traditional plans. Never lost strength though, definitely did not want to risk losing LBM, so I always keep my caloric deficit within 500 cals of my perceived maintenance and more or less have just been recomping for the past 4 months after my last bulk.

Pardon me for my vanity!


Loose skin sucks btw, don't stay too fat for too long

8/27/2009 10:08:26 PM

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PM replied

^and I've seen this guy work, he'd be a great motivation/workout buddy (if you can't come to my classes )

8/27/2009 10:17:19 PM

God
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Also quitting World of Warcraft might have helped.

8/27/2009 11:10:25 PM

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porcha I am so impressed!!
way to go!!

other god, not everyone is a little stick like you, that just needs to lift weights.

8/27/2009 11:41:12 PM

Skack
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I need fatness motivation.

lol, jk.

8/27/2009 11:43:28 PM

simonn
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that's the second time i've seen a porcha before/after recently, and it's really fucking impressive. makes me want to actually stick w/ lifting one of these days.

nohomo.

8/28/2009 2:30:59 AM

Nitrocloud
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Join me for coffee sometime this weekend or next week. I'll see what talking I can give you. I can also call you if you want a wake up call for whatever reason. I have a feeling that just a conversation of coffee will be plenty though.

8/28/2009 6:01:51 AM

porcha
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Quote :
"Also quitting World of Warcraft might have helped"


funny story..I actually didn't quit WoW until I had lost ~20lbs and just found WoW boring...I was rekindled earlier in 09 and played ~2 months, again, finding it boring, and quit...in that 2 months though I dropped to my lowest weight of 186....more rest = more weight loss...I'm currently at 195, but with a lower BF than when I was at 186

8/28/2009 6:35:34 AM

God
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Well, Cataclysm was just announced. You better start the carb-loading now with the Mountain Dew Game Fuel and Cheetos.

8/28/2009 8:22:49 AM

zxappeal
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porcha...You're ON, sir. That's impressive as hell. If I could just get down to 215, hell, maybe 200, I'd be tickled. I'm at 260 right now.

I was 315 four and a half years ago. There are things that must change...

You have done one hell of a job.

I don't game. I usually geek out reading about engines and such. Or making inane threads here.

8/28/2009 9:55:04 AM

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i made the mistake of showing my GF porcha's results. she just kept repeating "look at his arms" and then locked herself in the bedroom for 10 min.

fml.

8/28/2009 10:14:34 AM

God
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He needs some cobra traps, like me.

8/28/2009 10:40:35 AM

porcha
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cobra Lats!

8/28/2009 11:08:14 AM

God
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Yes, that's what I meant.

We should hit the gym some time. Where do you train?

8/28/2009 11:16:51 AM

porcha
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1 year left of school b/c I'm a dumb ass...so I still work out at NCSU...I'm trying to get Quinn and Stein to get alumni passes

if NCSU is ever closed, my clients mother works at the Brier Creek community center so I'll go there if needed, the BB set only goes to 300 though and the DBs to 40

8/28/2009 11:31:27 AM

God
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Hm. I'm a post-baccalaureate student, so I'm unsure if I get access to the gym.

8/28/2009 11:44:19 AM

porcha
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I've been to the Planet Fitness up on HW 70 and off of Western, hated HW 70, no pull up bars? no squat cages? 100% smith machines? plus they set off the lunk alert when I was setting down some heavy DBs...how else am I supposed to lightly put down DBs without a spotter? w/e it was a $3 30 day trial over winter break...I definitely took more than $3 worth of shits in toilet paper from their establishment, at least the locker rooms were nice.

I've been to a Lifestyle Family Fitness up in IL with my LDR girl and that place is really top notch, but I really really like the NCSU facilities...it's like a grungier, less trendy Lifestyle, more of a guy's(Read: Diesel) gym. Although Lifestyle had a water slide and their steam room smelled of cough drops.

8/28/2009 12:00:50 PM

God
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I lift at my apartment's gym, but it's awful. One smith machine with a total of 240 lbs in plates and dumbbells that go from 5 to 55 lbs.

Oh, but 5 treadmills, 4 bikes, and 2 elipticals.

8/28/2009 12:02:21 PM

AntiMnifesto
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Can anyone here lift those 95 lb. dumbbells that they have at some gyms? Those things are huuuge, and
the guys I see lifting them look musclebound.

8/28/2009 12:52:00 PM

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I've never tried them, but I imagine I could do at least one bent over row with a 95 lb'er. I can do ten with 55 lbs.

[Edited on August 28, 2009 at 12:55 PM. Reason : ]

8/28/2009 12:55:13 PM

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