Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
By popular demand...
Quote : | "Tennessee is ranked 10th in the Associated Press men's basketball poll released today. The Vols rated 11th in the USA Today/ESPN coaches poll.
AP Poll
The top 25 teams in The Associated Press’ preseason 2009-10 college basketball poll, with first-place votes in parentheses, final 2008-09 records, total points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one point for a 25th-place vote and last year’s final ranking:
Record Pts Fin
1. Kansas (55) 27-8 1,612 14
2. Michigan St. (5) 31-7 1,515 8
3. Texas (1) 23-12 1,397 ¦—
4. Kentucky (3) 22-14 1,372 ¦—
5. Villanova 30-8 1,347 11
6. North Carolina (1) 34-4 1,320 2
7. Purdue 27-10 1,284 17
8. West Virginia 23-12 1,115 ¦—
9. Duke 30-7 1,064 6
10. Tennessee 21-13 ¦897 ¦—
11. Butler 26-6 ¦864 22
12. Connecticut 31-5 ¦844 5
13. California 22-11 ¦800 ¦—
14. Washington 26-9 ¦776 15
15. Michigan 21-14 ¦578 ¦—
16. Ohio St. 22-11 ¦465 ¦—
17. Oklahoma 30-6 ¦410 7
18. Mississippi St. 23-13 ¦393 ¦—
19. Louisville 31-6 ¦335 1
20. Georgetown 16-15 ¦326 ¦—
21. Dayton 27-8 ¦318 ¦—
22. Georgia Tech 12-19 ¦301 ¦—
23. Illinois 24-10 ¦282 ¦—
24. Clemson 23-9 ¦217 24
25. Minnesota 22-11 ¦172 ¦—
Others receiving votes: Maryland 171, Siena 112, Notre Dame 107, Florida St. 92, Vanderbilt 90, Syracuse 83, Oklahoma St. 65, UCLA 63, Florida 53, Wake Forest 50, Xavier 42, Gonzaga 37, South Carolina 28, Kansas St. 24, BYU 21, N. Iowa 16, Tulsa 16, Mississippi 15, Texas A&M 10, Missouri 8, Boston College 6, Pittsburgh 4, Utah St. 2, Va. Commonwealth 2, W. Kentucky 2, Holy Cross 1, Old Dominion 1.
USA Today/ESPN poll
The top 25 teams in the USA Today-ESPN men’s college basketball preseason poll, with first-place votes in parentheses, 2008-09 records, points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one point for a 25th-place vote and final 2008-09 ranking:
Record Pts Pvs
1. Kansas (27) 27-8 770 10
2. Michigan State (30 31-7 732 2
3. Texas 23-12 676 23
4. North Carolina (1) 34-4 653 1
5. Kentucky 22-14 635 -
6. Villanova 30-8 620 4
7. Purdue 27-10 586 14
8. Duke 30-7 528 11
9. West Virginia 23-12 501 -
10. Butler 26-6 408 25
11. Tennessee 21-13 406 -
12. California 22-11 370 -
13. Washington 26-9 364 16
14. Connecticut 31-5 361 3
15. Michigan 21-14 279 -
16. Oklahoma 30-6 244 7
17. Ohio State 22-11 241 -
18. Minnesota 22-11 151 -
19. Mississippi St. 23-13 149 -
20. Georgia Tech 12-19 136 -
21. Georgetown 16-15 134 -
22. Dayton 27-8 130 -
23. Louisville 31-6 123 5
24. Clemson 23-9 114 -
25. Syracuse 28-10 111 12
Others receiving votes: Maryland 100; Illinois 83; Siena 72; UCLA 59; Vanderbilt 38; Oklahoma State 29; Missouri 28; Xavier 25; Gonzaga 24; Notre Dame 22; Southern California 22; Pittsburgh 19; Tulsa 17; Brigham Young 16; Kansas State 16; Florida State 15; Florida 13; Wake Forest 13; San Diego State 8; Creighton 7; Boston College 4; Texas A&M 4; Cornell 3; Memphis 3; Mississippi 3; Southern Illinois 3; Utah State 3; UNLV 2; Northern Iowa 1; South Carolina 1." |
10/29/2009 2:16:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe this year Tennessee's men's basketball team can win an NCAA tournament game
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 2:18 PM. Reason : men's basketball, since women's is implied at UT] 10/29/2009 2:18:14 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I want to again suggest that we change this place to the VOLFWEB 10/29/2009 2:19:06 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^ maybe, but at least bball is back to being a fun past time during the football offseason
^ you got my vote! and you just won me my "over/under on response posts before Ernie comments" bet at Under 2.5 10/29/2009 2:22:14 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I think this is the first time I've ever posted in a UT thread
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 2:25 PM. Reason : ] 10/29/2009 2:24:52 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
didnt mean in the thread, meant after I post anywhere 10/29/2009 2:26:15 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I've got 30000 posts
One are two are probably gonna come after you 10/29/2009 2:27:15 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I've won my bet three times in this thread alone... 10/29/2009 2:28:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
thats 3 more times than the number of NCAA tourney games Tennessee (men's basketball) won last year 10/29/2009 2:31:52 PM |
SchndlrsFist All American 5528 Posts user info edit post |
^How many tourney wins has your team had the past decade or so? 10/29/2009 2:37:54 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, exactly, NC State cant say a god damn word about the current state of Basketball or Football right now... shut the fuck up before you make yourself look retarded. 10/29/2009 2:40:14 PM |
scm011 All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
exhibition game tomorrow and football on saturday
heading to knoxville after work
go vols 10/29/2009 2:53:30 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^How many tourney wins has your team had the past decade or so?" |
probably about as many as Tennessee10/29/2009 3:00:51 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
but Tennessee sucks at bball, State is supposed to be an all time great program remember? 10/29/2009 3:02:53 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
we do have national titles (in men's basketball) 10/29/2009 3:03:13 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Is this the thread for discussing Tennessee basketball or for shitting on NC State? 10/29/2009 3:04:32 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^ exactly, but he just had to start it
^^ Quote : | "TreeTwista10 Jake Delhomme is God 80162 Posts user info edit post
you know your team currently sucks when you have to resort to all time records instead of current streaks, etc" |
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 3:05 PM. Reason : d]10/29/2009 3:05:02 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
to get back on topic... surprised they are ranked this high... They were really really young last year so I guess everyone assumes the younger guys are ready to go now. Bruce has supposedly been pushing them a lot harder than last year now that they are used to the system; but still I was expecting somewhere around 20 to not ranked 10/29/2009 3:44:14 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
They still got Jism ? I always hated his faggot too small headband 10/29/2009 3:54:14 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
yup, and hes still wearing his yarmulke 10/29/2009 3:59:29 PM |
SchndlrsFist All American 5528 Posts user info edit post |
Negadu is out indefinitely with a heart condition and Tabb left the team. 10/29/2009 4:20:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you know your team currently sucks when you have to resort to all time records instead of current streaks, etc" |
so whats wrong with me bringing up the NCAA tourney loss since its the last game they played?
i simply mentioned our basketball titles (men's basketball) in response to your previous post10/29/2009 5:01:39 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
because you were just saying it to try to troll and you know it...
AND you were saying that Tennessee and NC State having the same number of tournament victories last year somehow made them equal to one another in performance, which is shit. Only on the wolf web would someone at NC State try to talk shit about a team ranked in the top 10
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:10 PM. Reason : d] 10/29/2009 5:09:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "because you were just saying it to try to troll and you know it..." |
so talking about the Vols' last game is trolling? I guess you're not allowed to talk about the Boston College game 2 weeks ago since State lost, and therefore even mentioning it would be trolling
Quote : | "you were saying that Tennessee and NC State having the same number of tournament victories last year somehow made them equal to one another in performance, which is shit." |
no, i was saying Tennessee and NC state probably had the same number of tournament victories over the last DECADE...which would imply neither of them have done anything great, and that yes, all things considered, over the last 10 years, both programs are about equal...your reading is shit
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:15 PM. Reason : .]10/29/2009 5:13:14 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
1. you werent just talking about the last game, you were trolling 2. the last game in the SAME season means a lot more than the last game from a year ago 3. the last game being against a randon opponent in a tourney isnt as meaningful as the last game in the same season 4. "men's basketball, since women's is implied at UT"
"thats 3 more times than the number of NCAA tourney games Tennessee (men's basketball) won last year"
"^How many tourney wins has your team had the past decade or so?"
probably about as many as Tennessee
so you were saying because neither won a tournmanet game last year they were equal in overall (not just tournament performance)
Quote : | "yes, all things considered, over the last 10 years, both programs are about equal" |
oh really? so State's been ranked as high? State has won their conference? and conference tournament? (and here comes "but its the SEC" bs)
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:19 PM. Reason : d]10/29/2009 5:15:45 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
No matter what you say, you won't convince people here that anyone is better than State, no matter how right you may be
It's like walking into Applebee's and saying Ruth Chris is better 10/29/2009 5:16:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
i have no fucking clue what #2 and #3 mean...sounds like you're trying way too hard to convince yourself that I'm trolling
Quote : | "4. "men's basketball, since women's is implied at UT"" |
oh my bad, I guess you guys are nationally known for football and men's basketball...yeah...and UNC is becoming a football school...
^was Tennessee better than State last year? absolutely...what does that have to do with looking at the last decade? after all, thats what SchndlrsFist asked me, then Jaybee read it wrong and got all pissy
Quote : | "oh really? so State's been ranked as high? State has won their conference? and conference tournament? (and here comes "but its the SEC" bs)" |
first of all, only a retard would compare winning the ACC in basketball to the SEC...if Kentucky was worth a damn over the last 5 years you'd have a point, but they weren't (though they will be)
second, has Tennessee made 5 straight NCAA tourneys?? ooh look at that great stat, 5 straight tourney appaeances!
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:20 PM. Reason : .]10/29/2009 5:17:13 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^ because you said this you fucking dumbshit:
"so talking about the Vols' last game is trolling? I guess you're not allowed to talk about the Boston College game 2 weeks ago since State lost, and therefore even mentioning it would be trolling"
so therefore, I was stating that talking about the last game from the previous season is not the same thing (or as meaningful) as the last game played in the season you are currently in... it doenst mean shit, you were just bringing it up as an attempt to troll. Oh shit, Bama lost to Utah last year!
^ yeah, the SEC is JUST Kentucky... we will just forget about those Florida national championships and we might as well just forget about playing Memphis each year
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:21 PM. Reason : d] 10/29/2009 5:20:39 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
i like how even though i'm obviously trolling the shit out of you, you find the need to respond to every single thing i'd say, as if feeding the troll is somehow winning
i also like how you think Tennessee basketball, over the last 10 years, has been anything special
^so Memphis is what stopped you from winning national titles? lol ok
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:22 PM. Reason : .] 10/29/2009 5:21:40 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I just dont like sports ignorance.
If it makes sense, talk shit all you want, but this is like Duke talking shit to NC State... oh wait
^ never said it was special... just said its been better than State, but I only said that because you claimed UT had been shit so I was showing that you had no room to talk
Quote : | "^so Memphis is what stopped you from winning national titles? lol ok" |
odd, dont remember saying that at any point... but what I do remember saying is that it shows that UT doesnt just play a bunch of shit teams like you were hinting at
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM. Reason : d]10/29/2009 5:22:35 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "never said it was special... just said its been better than State" |
whats UT's biggest (men's) basketball accomplishment over the last 10 years? State's is a Sweet 16, nothing special, whats UT's?10/29/2009 5:24:10 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
well, 1. I wouldnt base it on one single accomplishment...
2 sweet 16 appearances in the last 3 years, being ranked #1 (but but Jaybee! that was only for one week!!!, so, better than not being there at all), beating #1 ranked teams, winning the conference, great recruiting - especially for a school with shit in state talent outside of Memphis, ranked in the top 10 for most of the season etc.
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:30 PM. Reason : d] 10/29/2009 5:25:45 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Bruce Pearl's Bare Chest, and its not even close 10/29/2009 5:27:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
^^in other words, theres not a single accomplishment that really stands out?
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:32 PM. Reason : .] 10/29/2009 5:29:11 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Is Wayne Chism going to continue wearing his headband like a fucking idiot. It looks like a Jewish yamaka the way he wears it. Or did he already graduate/go to the NBA? 10/29/2009 5:29:25 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^ no, in other words Colorado winning 1 national championship doesnt mean they are on the same level as other programs that have only won 1 national championship.
^ already addressed buddy, would be easier to see if we didnt have TreeTrolla trolling up the thread with stupid shit
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:32 PM. Reason : d] 10/29/2009 5:31:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
ok, so you've clearly been a better team than State over the last 5 years
how about the previous 5 years? What was Tennessee doing while State was going to 5 straight tourneys? or do those years not count when comparing the two programs over the last 10 years?
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:33 PM. Reason : .] 10/29/2009 5:32:23 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
ok, go back to 99... thats 3 more appearances and 1 more Sweet sixteen appearance in those 5 years.
7 times out of 10 years with 3 sweet sixteen appearances
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:34 PM. Reason : d] 10/29/2009 5:34:36 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
ok so here's what we're looking at:
Tenn: 7 appearances NCSU: 5 appearances
Tenn: three Sweet 16s NCSU: one Sweet 16
Tenn: ranked #1 NCSU: (can't recall, we might've been top 10 or 15 at one point when we finished 2nd in the ACC and were a 3 seed)
Tenn: 1 conference title NCSU: 0 conference titles
conclusion:
Tennessee has been better than State over the last 10 years, specifically the last 3 years, although not by a landslide...and most importantly, neither team has gotten past the sweet 16
and in the first 5 years, State wins appearances 5 to 3, with each team having 1 sweet 16...State was better the first 5 years, but Tennessee was even better the last 5 years
doesnt sound like some kind of blowout to me
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:40 PM. Reason : .] 10/29/2009 5:39:07 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
(2 regular season conference champs, 0 conference tourney champs)
thank you, now, on with the thread.
so, the ranking surprised me, and Chism is still there, and is still a Jew
[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 5:42 PM. Reason : d] 10/29/2009 5:40:06 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Tennessee men’s basketball team landed its first verbal commitment in the class of 2011, dipping into Georgia for five-star point guard Kevin Ware.
Ware, a 6-foot-4 prospect who’s ranked as the No. 21 player nationally in the Rivals 150, plays at Rockdale County High School in Conyers, Ga. He averaged 16 points, 8.5 assists and eight rebounds as a sophomore last season.
“I came up and caught the last part of the basketball game Friday night and saw how they played, and then the football game was real cool,’’ Ware said. “I loved those fans, and the black jerseys they wore . . . it was cool how they warmed up in orange and then turned around and put the black on.’’
Ware said recruits do notice and like that sort of thing.
“Oh yeah, you notice that, because I had never seen them in black before,’’ he said. “We went into the locker room, and the Tennessee players were all real excited putting them on, and the coaches were yelling and screaming and getting them real focused.’’
Ware’s focus is getting the ball up the court quickly and scoring in transition when he’s not defending and distributing the ball.
“Those are some of Kevin’s strengths, and we felt like Tennessee fit what he does best,’’ said Al Williams, who took Ware’s Rockdale County team into Georgia’s Sweet 16 in his first year there as head coach last season. “We were all very impressed with the university, and we do the same types of things that Coach (Bruce) Pearl does in our system, and that’s what prompted the commitment.’’
Williams said Ware’s commitment wasn’t necessarily planned before the visit, as he has also been offered scholarships by Miami, Fla., Florida and Georgetown.
“We went up there to look at the facilities and talk to the players, and even without Coach Pearl around, it was very evident those guys really love each other,’’ Williams said. “A lot of schools can talk that talk, but don’t walk the walk.’’
Ware is an AAU teammate on the Atlanta Celtics with the Vols’ two verbal commitments in the class of 2010, point guard Trae Golden and shooting guard Jordan McRae.
“It’s good knowing I’m going up there with people I already know,’’ said Ware, whose primary recruiter is UT associate head coach Tony Jones. “It’s just Tennessee’s style of play, how I fit the system, and the academics.
“Georgetown was too far away, Florida stopped recruiting me once, and the only reason they started up again was they lost a player, and I only talked to Miami four or five times.’’
Ware said he had a long talk with his parents about making a verbal commitment more than a year before he can sign with the team.
“It’s a commitment, and my dad told me once I’m in it, I should plan on staying with it,’’ Ware said. “He said if you decided to go somewhere else after making a commitment, people will look at you differently; I don’t want that.’’" |
[Edited on November 2, 2009 at 1:28 AM. Reason : d]11/2/2009 1:27:41 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
why is it that all the non-state fans on this board try to prop up their bball recruits by using rivals' crap rankings
i mean, it's like being on a lions board as a fan of any other NFL team. you dont need to quote some bleacherreport.com article that says philip rivers is the best qb in the nfl to be ahead of the populace 11/2/2009 1:47:01 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Oh look TreeTwista10 is trolling. In other news the sky was blue today.
Tennessee actually has a bright future going forward with both sports football and basketball. NCSU the verdict is still out on both of our coaches. NCSU would gladly trade with them in a heartbeat. UT is very fun to watch and on the rise with Pearl.
That sucks about Negadu and Tabb. Why did Tabb leave? He played great in spurts in this system. 11/2/2009 2:51:13 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^ exactly... and it wasnt a "user" it was written into the quoted article
with Tabb it was something about his family, someone being sick or something, along with a some disciplinary stuff (but not enough to get him kicked off) 11/2/2009 9:44:08 AM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
v 11/2/2009 10:14:07 AM |
SchndlrsFist All American 5528 Posts user info edit post |
Nice pic-bomb Douchenlou. Crawl back in your hole. 11/2/2009 10:35:24 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
wow, the turd is back... whats it been, 2 years? 11/2/2009 11:14:41 AM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
are you going to make our basketball thread too? 11/2/2009 12:03:41 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I can... 11/2/2009 12:05:42 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
surprise me randomly... just not yet 11/2/2009 12:14:40 PM |