Not sure what she expected when I said, "No," but she accused me of "coming at her" (whatever the hell that means) and has been angry with me ever since. She's not a ridiculously good shift lead and lets other people (ie, her fellow black ladies) break the rules, while being rather stringent with me when I appear aloof.

I'm quitting pretty soon, but I'm wondering if you guys would just walk away or contact the department of labor. I could use the reference, but I'm not sure it's worth it, even in this economy. I'm in the metro area, so finding another joe job wouldn't be that hard, but I'm taking two weeks off and have only three shifts remaining (two with this boss).

11/19/2009 8:44:24 PM

def. illegal

when the labor board started investigating my last job the first thing they asked was if we were made to do anything off the clock, and the last thing they told each of us was to never ever do any work if you aren't clocked in

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 8:49 PM. Reason : you could get unemployment for quitting if you needed it]

11/19/2009 8:48:43 PM

let it ride but if she says something or give you shit, report it...

11/19/2009 8:49:24 PM

lol shift work.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 8:50 PM. Reason : snort]

11/19/2009 8:50:01 PM

Tell her that violates NC Labor laws. See what she says.

11/19/2009 8:55:55 PM

I'd call the department of labor your last day

11/19/2009 8:57:23 PM

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"you could get unemployment for quitting if you needed it"

I thought a nearly impossible series of events had to happen to be eligible for unemployment. I've never applied, so you're most likely correct.

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"let it ride but if she says something or give you shit, report it..."

Got it.

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"lol shift work."

inorite! I might have an internship opportunity with the Capitals, so hopefully that will happen.

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"Tell her that violates NC Labor laws. See what she says."

I'm in Maryland, but Maryland is much more focused on worker's rights than NC anyway. Super Democrats.

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"I'd call the department of labor your last day "

I like the cut of your jib, sir.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 9:01 PM. Reason : .]

11/19/2009 8:59:41 PM

Don't. If you fucking bend on this she'll do it every time.

11/19/2009 9:02:11 PM

^ Yeah. I stated that I've been dicked by managers in the past (which I haven't, but I don't want to start a slippery slope).

11/19/2009 9:03:42 PM

well, the reason you could potentially get unemployment for quitting is because she violated labor laws. and there is no guarantee, sorry to get your hopes up. i think you would have to report her before quitting though...not really sure. i'm only speaking from my experience. we had several employees at my last job that got unemployment even though they quit.

11/19/2009 9:09:03 PM

why, even if you want another job, would you walk away before you have something else lined up?

11/19/2009 9:10:11 PM

Also, ask her to give you those instructions in writing.

If she doesn't, she knows she's violating labor laws.

11/19/2009 9:10:29 PM

i read this wrong... i thought she asked you to "close off the clock" which I interpreted to be "stay longer until close"

but she asked you to "close while clocked out" which is HIGHLY illegal, and you should report it right away.

11/19/2009 9:10:39 PM

talk to a lawyer, tip off the labor board, give [insert shift leader here] the bird, $profit

11/19/2009 10:07:01 PM

If you just want to get her in trouble you could also tell her superiors. It's also a big no-no for managers to do that because when your not on the clock your not covered by the company's insurance so it could end up costing them big time if something happened to you while working off the clock.

11/20/2009 9:00:44 AM

im not understanding what "close off the clock" means


does that means shes asking you to clock out? or take hours off time you worked? or tellin you to work after clocking out?

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"lol shift work."

inorite! I might have an internship opportunity with the Capitals, so hopefully that will happen.


haha i think he was just referencing the song moreso than pointing out that you work shifts

[Edited on November 20, 2009 at 9:07 AM. Reason : s]

11/20/2009 9:06:07 AM

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"im not understanding what "close off the clock" means"

It means that she asked him to close down the business while off the clock.

11/20/2009 9:29:57 AM

Oh yeah... Sure! Have me work when I'm not on the clock. That's a GREAT way to shut it down

11/20/2009 9:33:19 AM

Make sure all your hours are right on your next paycheck (i.e., make sure she didn't go back in and alter your hours without telling you).

11/20/2009 9:47:20 AM

fuck all this advice. From your initial post you seem to think racism has something to do with it. Run with that. There is way too much racism that gets unchecked. Tell her she is being racist, tell her managers she's being racist, keep going up the chain until you get someone willing to listen. She wouldnt ask her fellow black co workers to work unpaid. That shit really pisses me off. Racism is never going away as long as shit like this continues on.

11/20/2009 10:09:45 AM

I wouldn't go the "persecuted White man" angle, if I were you.

11/20/2009 10:11:38 AM

why because racism only works one way?


grow a set

11/20/2009 10:31:38 AM

no, because the way things are and the way things should be are two different things, and he's more concerned with getting things taken care of for himself than with making a point.

That, and it doesn't sound like it's clear-cut by any means that this is really a racially motivated thing.

11/20/2009 10:41:18 AM

Racism. Favoritism. Same thing.

11/20/2009 10:44:56 AM

which is easier to define...

A. "OMFG RACIST!"

B. "My supervisor instructed me to work off of the clock without being paid for it, in clear violation of labor laws."

11/20/2009 11:03:47 AM

The answer is always (C)

(C) Because my supervisor is a racist, (s)he instructed me to work off of the clock without being paid for it, in clear violation of labor laws.

11/20/2009 11:04:37 AM

I erase my answer and choose ^

11/22/2009 1:07:03 AM

bullshit. the racism charge cheapens the argument, and is impossible to prove.

11/22/2009 8:40:55 AM

ITT: People debate whether or not to play the race card as a strategic business decision.

11/22/2009 8:58:05 AM

i agree with avoiding the race issue...whether racism is present or not, it will cheapen the legal argument (the one that is easily defined and clearly illegal)

11/22/2009 9:44:21 AM

tell her no. if she bitches then talk to her boss and explain what she asked of you and that you arent comfortable with it. no need to go into legal anything.

/thread

11/22/2009 10:08:16 AM

Tell her to go in manually and add in the extra time to your time sheet that you stayed off the clock.

11/22/2009 1:30:45 PM

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"There is way too much racism that gets unchecked"

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there is also way too much racism found where there is none

11/22/2009 1:50:46 PM

^ wow, thats profound


which issue do you think the NAACP would take issue with first if the roles were reversed?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milquetoast

11/24/2009 9:44:44 AM

Hes brown tho.

11/25/2009 10:55:13 AM