http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U

This kind of stuff gives me goosebumps.

12/17/2009 7:20:39 PM

12/17/2009 7:23:11 PM

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12/17/2009 7:55:22 PM

cooooooooooooool

12/17/2009 7:55:45 PM

hopefully scientists will one day discover a method to actually view things such as you tube videos. For now, we must continue to rely solely on speculation and conjecture in determining what these phenomena may contain.

12/17/2009 8:03:36 PM

its pretty despressing considering its IMPOSSIBLE to ever reach almost 100% of everything that exists.

12/17/2009 8:09:52 PM

We can reach everything that exists. Time is the only restriction.

12/17/2009 9:14:40 PM

wow, I suddenly feel so cold and small.

12/17/2009 9:48:30 PM

i love The Cosmological Horizon theory. basically the known universe is only the part of the universe that we can see because the light is close enough to reach us by now. the short of the long is that some people theorize that our known universe is only about the size of a quarter on the face of the earth

now that shit gives me goosebumps

12/17/2009 10:02:30 PM

^^^ no, we can't, and time is not the restriction.

Distance and speed is the restriction. Specifically, parts of the universe that are moving away from us faster than the speed of light will be lost to us forever, no matter how fast we leave the earth to see them. In fact, time is the enemy here, because every second we're not probing the depths of the universe is another second that more matter falls outside of our visible horizon. If we wait long enough (trillions of years), and assuming there is no "big crunch" or universal collapse, observers from the Earth (assuming it would still be here, which it won't be) would look into the sky and see..... nothing, except maybe some stars or part of the Milky Way that's caught in a local gravity well. Everything else in the universe would have spread out so far away that it will be impossible to see, no matter how deep the telescopes look. It will literally appear that the Earth is the only thing in the entire universe. Also, of course, any beings on any other planets or star systems would see the same thing and come to the same conclusion.

[Edited on December 17, 2009 at 10:04 PM. Reason : .]

12/17/2009 10:04:07 PM

12/17/2009 10:17:01 PM

^^Well I'm no physicist but what if eventually technology advances to the point where instantaneous teleportation is possible? That would allow us to travel anywhere instantly.

12/17/2009 10:39:27 PM

you're right.....

you certainly are no physicist

12/17/2009 10:46:15 PM

with time and space being a "fabric", means we could manipulate it (think along the lines of black holes).... then we could possibly see things that are expanding out....or am i terribly wrong?

12/17/2009 10:53:01 PM

^^
the laws of physics have been altered and will likely be altered again in the future. you can't be sure teleportation is impossible.

12/17/2009 10:58:41 PM

^ ummm..... the laws of physics have not been altered.
Our knowledge of them has.

nevertheless, you're just throwing around the word "teleportation" because it sounds cool and they do it on TV, without really knowing what you're talking about


^^ and yes, you're wrong. again, just using words like "fabric" and "black holes" doesn't mean you know what they mean

[Edited on December 18, 2009 at 12:03 AM. Reason : .]

12/18/2009 12:02:09 AM

^^^ You're talking about theoretical technology that's a long, long ways away.

[Edited on December 18, 2009 at 12:03 AM. Reason : ]

12/18/2009 12:03:06 AM

cant you guys just watch the universe as we can tell and enjoy! no one here knows 100% what they are talking about

12/18/2009 12:26:04 AM

well its all moot for us as we won't even be able to get to europa in our lifetimes. I'd also like to add it'd be pretty hard to teleport somewhere you can't see and don't know it exists. Hell, we can't even get to the bottom of the ocean on earth.

12/18/2009 12:32:37 AM

it sucks to realize how much is out there that we will never even know about

once we discover the answer to one thing, it opens up 10 more questions

12/18/2009 1:18:36 AM

^^ Yes we can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathyscaphe_Trieste#The_Mariana_Trench_dives

Thank god you're back to make your stupid comparisons between ocean exploration and space travel.

[Edited on December 18, 2009 at 1:21 AM. Reason : .]

12/18/2009 1:20:55 AM

Whoa. My brain just exploded all over my monitor.

12/18/2009 8:50:08 AM

Quote :

"cant you guys just watch the universe as we can tell and enjoy! no one here knows 100% what they are talking about"

And I have to admit, when the video started panning back in to Earth, my first thought was, "but how are we going to find it in all that stuff???"



I'm quite simple

12/18/2009 9:52:26 AM

Quote :

"I'd also like to add it'd be pretty hard to teleport somewhere you can't see and don't know it exists."

A few hundred years ago I'm sure people said that it would be pretty hard to fly to the moon and get back, but it happened only 70 years after powered flight was invented.

12/18/2009 9:59:37 AM

This thread needs some Sagan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc

[Edited on December 18, 2009 at 10:05 AM. Reason : ^ there are people today who don't think we can go to the moon]

12/18/2009 10:04:40 AM

Awesome video, I'm going to borrow this!

12/18/2009 10:19:49 AM

^^^

And we haven't done much else since then.

12/18/2009 10:21:41 AM

these all own

12/18/2009 10:55:10 AM

holy fuck that was amazing.

and damn we are so insignificant

12/18/2009 11:15:30 AM

haha that first video is pretty fucking cool. that's the only one I've watched so far

12/18/2009 11:26:28 AM

http://www.shatters.net/celestia/

"Celestia, a real-time 3D space simulation featuring a database of over 100000 stars..."

Here's a program to let you do a lot of that for yourself.

12/18/2009 11:35:07 AM

Quote :

"And we haven't done much else since then."

Maybe not in terms of space travel (I won't get into the politics of space flight... that's a subject for another thread), but in terms of general technology we sure as hell have.

12/18/2009 11:38:10 AM

Yeah that's what I meant

It's just depressing because it's like

~1907 - Flight

Fast forward 60 years, and we're on the moon.

Fast forward 40 more years, and we're just orbiting the Earth still.

12/18/2009 11:51:44 AM

Quote :

"and yes, you're wrong. again, just using words like "fabric" and "black holes" doesn't mean you know what they mean "

i do know what they mean.
maybe not to the extent of physicists but i do know.



pretentious prick.


thank you God for actually addressing my post and not flexing your internet cock like some assholes.



[Edited on December 18, 2009 at 1:34 PM. Reason : and JTMONEYNCSU wins.]

12/18/2009 1:31:14 PM

damn, we're insignificant

also, this is also a small part of why the cancellation of "defying gravity" made me sad

12/18/2009 1:39:44 PM

^^

Our potential for exploration would be great if we could find a limitless source of infinite energy, but barring that we're pretty much screwed.

The fact remains that you need exponentially increasing amounts of energy to go anywhere approaching the speed of light, and infinite energy to go the speed of light.

So, until we are able to make that... whelp.

12/18/2009 2:07:12 PM

Quote :

"Fast forward 60 years, and we're on the moon. Fast forward 40 more years, and we're just orbiting the Earth still. "

That’s mostly because we better know our limitations.

In that time though, we’ve launched some badass space telescopes, put 2 rovers on Mars that have given us some excellent pictures and data about the planet. Discovered a water cycle (including water ice) on Mars. Have gotten some amazing pictures of the moons of jupiter. We have 2 satellites that take pictures of the sun in 3D, we’ve launched the WMAP probe that has given us a glimpse of the creation to the universe, and probably tons of other stuff that i don’t know about. We have also learned how to find Earth-like planets around distance stars, and there are 2 or 3 satellites coming online in the next 2 years or so dedicated solely to this purpose. When this happens, it will give us a clear goal to work towards, that we don’t really have now.

We could have put a man on Mars by now, but what would be the point? It would be a great symbolic conquest for humanity, but we have other problems that need attention ($$$) on Earth, and the rovers can give us lots of data.

However, research is advancing very rapidly, and it won’t be too long before we have a plan to do more work with humans in space.

12/18/2009 2:17:14 PM

It's also a general belief that had the space program continued through the 70s-present with the same momentum it had in the 60s, we'd probably have humans out towards Saturn by now. The flight instructor that was giving my final flying exam was an old engineer from the Apollo days, he said there is no doubt in his mind that the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey would have been a reality (except for all the monolith/HAL stuff).

12/18/2009 2:30:54 PM

I would love to see what would happen if our defense budget and our space budget were reversed.

GOLD spaceships you say?

[Edited on December 18, 2009 at 2:43 PM. Reason : ]

12/18/2009 2:43:40 PM

I just want a goddamn hover board. Is that too much to ask for in 2010?!

12/18/2009 2:48:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgLKkNY9eUA

12/18/2009 3:03:17 PM

PIIIGGGGSSSS

IIINNNNNN

SSSSPPPPPPPAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEE

12/18/2009 3:47:06 PM

Quote :

"I just want a goddamn hover board. Is that too much to ask for in 2010?!"

I will always pronounce "2010" like "Twenty-Ten" just because it sounds futuristic. And where are my damned hoverboards?

12/18/2009 3:50:42 PM

That kind of scale is hard to comprehend. It's rather scary when you think about it.

12/18/2009 4:18:42 PM

as much as I love star trek, it's spoiled the shit out of us

we need to be getting with dat Buck Rogers, ya feel me

we need to conquer the solar system

12/18/2009 4:23:07 PM

the universe is shaped exactly like the earth, if you go straight long enough you'll end up where you were

12/18/2009 5:52:37 PM

Why is what we can "see" kind of hourglass shaped with two huge wedges of blackness?

12/18/2009 5:52:53 PM

[Edited on December 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM. Reason : /]

12/18/2009 5:55:21 PM

NASA reveals first-ever photo of liquid on another world
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/12/18/saturn.titan.reflection/index.html

Methane on Titan. Still cool though.

[Edited on December 18, 2009 at 8:32 PM. Reason : .]

12/18/2009 8:31:58 PM