lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
which musical instrument is easier to learn, or more fun to play?
im thinking of learing electric guitar, but it looks like a pain in the butt to learn 12/22/2009 11:00:37 PM |
CleverFilth All American 845 Posts user info edit post |
piano if you want to be a real musician
guitar if you want to get laid and/or play stairway to heaven. 12/22/2009 11:01:22 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
guitar it is then 12/22/2009 11:03:02 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
^^ lol perfect 12/22/2009 11:03:26 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
whats in it for me if i become a "real musician" a badge? 12/22/2009 11:05:10 PM |
MikedaWolf All American 777 Posts user info edit post |
bass
FREE JACO!!! 12/22/2009 11:05:58 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Like most, I made myself learn to play acoustic guitar in college for the women and to kill time. With a few chords and ultimate-guitar.com you can jam on most of your favorite rock songs in a couple weeks. Lead(electric) guitar takes much more patience and skill. It's much like piano lessons, you need to practice your scales every day, lots of memorization, that sort of thing.
Anyway, I started playing piano more recently, and I haven't touched my guitar since. I started playing "rock piano"...playing by chords much like guitar. Unlike guitar, you can't just strum, you have to learn patterns and riffs to keep the rhythm going, and a certain amount of improv is downright expected with your right hand. Every style you switch to needs a new set of riffs and tricks. But it's much more rewarding I think, and plenty of people still have pianos in their homes or community centers so you can occasionally sit down and have some fun in public.
My advice, buy a cheap Casio as well a guitar. When you're learning your guitar chords, learn the piano version as well. Just looking at how piano keys are laid out will help the guitar make more sense.
Also: Bass guitar is the top four strings of a regular guitar. Much like playing lead, you need to learn your scales and memorize positions. The only difference is how you thumb the strings, more or less.
[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 11:15 PM. Reason : .] 12/22/2009 11:12:00 PM |
Chop All American 6271 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "piano if you want to be a real musician
guitar if you want to get laid and/or play stairway to heaven." |
well played, sir, well played12/22/2009 11:20:39 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
^^thanks, you've taken all the joy and excitement out of learning music
[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM. Reason : .] 12/22/2009 11:22:04 PM |
Chop All American 6271 Posts user info edit post |
in all seriousness, piano will give you a better foundation if you are serious about wanting to learn to play music. i don't necessarily agree with the classical approach, but its important to have at least a cursory understanding of music theory.
Guitar players that rely on tabs, 'licks', and or drop D tuning all end up sounding like Nickelback. 12/22/2009 11:26:53 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
i cant imagine playing piano for "rock" lol its like doing square dancing to rap songs 12/22/2009 11:29:39 PM |
Chop All American 6271 Posts user info edit post |
what? lots of rock bands have a keyboard player. how do you think that organ/synthesizer/piano sound gets there? 12/22/2009 11:32:17 PM |
th3oretecht All American 15539 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "in all seriousness, piano will give you a better foundation if you are serious about wanting to learn to play music." |
QFT12/22/2009 11:32:39 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
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Chop All American 6271 Posts user info edit post |
12/22/2009 11:40:59 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Speaking of him, I picked up "The Great Gig in the Sky" the other day. Took me about an hour. Most of that whole album is just bouncing between a couple chords with blues solos and some neat chord transitions.
Personally I'd much rather just play organ/synth/whatever.
Quote : | "lots of rock bands have a keyboard player. how do you think that organ/synthesizer/piano sound gets there?" |
I hate it when bands go on tour, hire a killer keyboard player but hide him behind the drums or something. Muse does that shit. You don't have to make him part of the band or anything, but at least let the audience see him. Might as well be playing with a recording. HELL, THE FUCKING BEATLES HAD A KEYBOARD PLAYER DURING THE ROOFTOOP CONCERT, BUT THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW HIM TO BE FILMED.
[Edited on December 23, 2009 at 12:00 AM. Reason : .]12/22/2009 11:56:24 PM |
Big4Country All American 11907 Posts user info edit post |
I have a friend who likes to fuck guitar players. I was also at Rum Runners with some friends one night and saw one of the piano players get surrounded by girls after he stepped off the stage to take a break. If you're trying to learn so that you can pick up girls then you can't go wrong with either. 12/23/2009 12:57:25 AM |
MikedaWolf All American 777 Posts user info edit post |
^ i play guitar.... whats her name 12/23/2009 1:08:46 AM |
dropdeadkate nerdlord 11725 Posts user info edit post |
boys that play piano are the hottest
and this one is my favoritestestestest <3
12/23/2009 1:34:34 AM |
th3oretecht All American 15539 Posts user info edit post |
I play piano and guitar
12/23/2009 1:36:09 AM |
MikedaWolf All American 777 Posts user info edit post |
12/23/2009 1:36:31 AM |
dropdeadkate nerdlord 11725 Posts user info edit post |
<3
[Edited on December 23, 2009 at 1:37 AM. Reason : ^^ thats hawt ] 12/23/2009 1:37:15 AM |
MikedaWolf All American 777 Posts user info edit post |
when will the bass player get love 12/23/2009 1:40:05 AM |
dropdeadkate nerdlord 11725 Posts user info edit post |
when all the guitarists and pianists are dead?
though honestly i'd do the drummer before the bassist. that's just me though 12/23/2009 1:43:18 AM |
th3oretecht All American 15539 Posts user info edit post |
LOL 12/23/2009 1:45:57 AM |
MikedaWolf All American 777 Posts user info edit post |
damn i learned the wrong instrument... 12 years of frustration 12/23/2009 1:49:05 AM |
dropdeadkate nerdlord 11725 Posts user info edit post |
i mean the fact that you can play anything is still awesome. I can't play shit. i wish i knew piano. i loooooooooooove piano. it's so pretty.
also i want to learn how to play all of the SoCo and JM songs /fangirl 12/23/2009 1:53:06 AM |
bmel l3md 11149 Posts user info edit post |
guitar ftw 12/23/2009 1:57:19 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
When you play guitar you can get away a little bit easier with being a shitty singer. If you can play piano and sing on key, the ladies will swoon.
Problem is you can't take it with you like you can with a guitar. 12/23/2009 1:59:15 AM |
Nitrocloud Arranging the blocks 3072 Posts user info edit post |
Play a harp. 12/23/2009 2:01:41 AM |
dropdeadkate nerdlord 11725 Posts user info edit post |
^^ but you can do back flips off it 12/23/2009 2:03:55 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^I saw Billy Joel do that...while playing a harmonica. He knows how to put on a show. 12/23/2009 2:05:04 AM |
MikedaWolf All American 777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "When you play guitar you can get away a little bit easier with being a shitty singer" |
+1
[Edited on December 23, 2009 at 2:25 AM. Reason : that was terrible ]12/23/2009 2:24:52 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hate it when bands go on tour, hire a killer keyboard player but hide him behind the drums or something. Muse does that shit. You don't have to make him part of the band or anything, but at least let the audience see him" |
the live performances I've seen usually have bellamy just going back and forth on guitar and keyboards himself, kind of crazy but I guess he loves to play both12/23/2009 2:50:21 AM |
th3oretecht All American 15539 Posts user info edit post |
^is that the singer? I thought the singer for Muse played the keys. 12/23/2009 2:51:19 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "when all the guitarists and pianists are dead?
though honestly i'd do the drummer before the bassist. that's just me though" |
dropdeadkate
Unless the bassist is Tal Wilkenfeld--then she moves to the front of the line.
12/23/2009 3:04:16 AM |
Rat Soup All American 7669 Posts user info edit post |
greatest bass player on earth
12/23/2009 3:17:24 AM |
th3oretecht All American 15539 Posts user info edit post |
^definitely ridiculously good 12/23/2009 3:30:51 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I have a friend who's awesome at piano and likes to play soft improv stuff, I'd sometimes take a killer nap to him playing some soft piano.
no homo 12/23/2009 3:34:58 AM |
chocolatervh All American 22986 Posts user info edit post |
problem solved
12/23/2009 3:53:55 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52766 Posts user info edit post |
I took piano lessons for a few years as a kid...i can't really play it well nowadays (i could sit down with some music and figure it out, i guess, but realistically i'm not much of a pianist these days).
I totally agree that it gives you a good foundation for music in general. I learned how to play the clarinet in band in elementary school, and it was a pretty easy thing to learn, since I already knew all the music theory basics from piano (again, I couldn't really play a clarinet worth a damn right now, although I don't think it would take too much practice to relearn it).
From there, though, I taught myself saxophone and guitar, and have been pretty good at both of them when I'm in practice (it comes and goes depending on my schedule.
I would say that the piano is the most difficult to learn, though. If you ever want to play in a band, I recommend picking pretty much anything but guitar, though. You'll be much more useful and sought after. Guitarists are a dime a dozen--nobody is going to want you to play in a band until you've been playing for years and are pretty good, because there is really no shortage of people who can play guitar well. If you are halfway decent with pretty much anything else, you can probably find yourself a spot. 12/23/2009 1:52:28 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52766 Posts user info edit post |
and as far as piano not having a place in rock bands? Even besides all the aforementioned synthesizers and organs, there are plenty of bands with a plain old piano. Ben Folds Five was pretty much geared around piano, and didn't even have a guitarists (although Robert Sledge killed on the bass). Warren Zevon used guitars and stuff, but a lot of his songs are pretty much piano-based. Lynyrd Skynyrd, while largely guitar driven, had a very good pianist in Billy Powell, and featured him prominently in lots of songs. Bruce Springsteen has generally had a piano in the E Street Band. Guns 'N Roses used some piano on the Use Your Illusion albums. Jimmy Buffett has featured piano in some of his songs, and hell, even Motley Crue broke out the piano on Home Sweet Home...maybe some other songs, too, but I can't remember. 12/23/2009 2:00:39 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only difference is how you thumb the strings, more or less." |
This isn't even close to being true.
Quote : | "HELL, THE FUCKING BEATLES HAD A KEYBOARD PLAYER DURING THE ROOFTOOP CONCERT, BUT THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW HIM TO BE FILMED." |
Also not true. There are plenty of shots of Billy Preston during the rooftop show, just not in the music video cut of "Get Back".12/23/2009 2:35:41 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "guitar if you want to get laid" |
and multiply said pussy by 10 if you can also sing12/23/2009 2:37:17 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^I saw Billy Joel do that...while playing a harmonica. He knows how to put on a show." |
Billy Joel is fucking awesome... I saw him twice his last full tour
even if the audience is mostly 40 and 50 year olds
[Edited on December 23, 2009 at 3:20 PM. Reason : don't know if you were joking or not, but I'm definitely not]12/23/2009 3:19:45 PM |
Chop All American 6271 Posts user info edit post |
you know, i have played guitar for 15+ years. not once has it ever led to me getting laid.
i have obviously been doing it wrong.
12/29/2009 11:28:51 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
My fingers are too small to play guitar
I personally think a man who can play the piano well is sexy as hell. Seems any douche can pick up a guitar and sound halfway decent. 12/29/2009 11:29:49 PM |
Chop All American 6271 Posts user info edit post |
well, i also play piano, but don't get a chance to practice nearly as much as guitar. i could probably still bang out "music of the night" or some other phantom gayness.
bwn?
[Edited on December 29, 2009 at 11:32 PM. Reason : .] 12/29/2009 11:31:58 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
^^i think you've got that backwards piano is much easier than guitar
[Edited on December 29, 2009 at 11:32 PM. Reason : .] 12/29/2009 11:32:19 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Pushing keys is easy. Playing piano halfway decent is not. Or at least not as easy as guitar. 12/29/2009 11:35:48 PM |