rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Per article I saw on yahoo, McGwire says he used roids throughout his career. This should officially end his chances of ever making the Hall now. I am glad he finally told the truth because I think Big Mac is actually a pretty good person, but made some bad choices.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100111/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbo_steroids_mcgwire;_ylt=Aj0K4MMRQOV.zrr6fyBq898LMxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTJsczM4N2k4BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwMTExL2Jib19zdGVyb2lkc19tY2d3aXJlBGNwb3MDMQRwb3MDMgRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNhcG5ld3NicmVha20-
[Edited on January 11, 2010 at 5:27 PM. Reason : vg] 1/11/2010 5:23:12 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
He didn't really have much chance anyway I don't think since people knew this.
It will be on MLB network tonight with Bob Costas. Others will talk after including my fav Harold Reynolds. 1/11/2010 5:24:44 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
this gives him a better chance at making the hall I would think now that he finally admitted it.
but he wont make it anyways so its a moot point.
I just hope others come clean now that he has. 1/11/2010 5:28:32 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This should officially end his chances of ever making the Hall now." |
While I don't think he'll get in anway, I do think this helps his chances instead of hurting them1/11/2010 5:30:15 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^ you are slipping bitch
Jaybee1200 - "Did someone say Big Mac?" 1/11/2010 5:39:39 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I only make clever jokes...I let you clean up all the obvious ones 1/11/2010 5:41:27 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
i haven't been this surprised since Clay Aiken "revealed" he's gay. 1/11/2010 5:46:10 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
in other news, sky blue, water wet 1/11/2010 5:51:18 PM |
jokar2694 All American 801 Posts user info edit post |
shrinkynuts mcangrypants 1/11/2010 5:57:38 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
Tinyurl much holy fuck 1/11/2010 6:03:09 PM |
jokar2694 All American 801 Posts user info edit post |
biggay mcgaygay 1/11/2010 6:06:06 PM |
ncsuREMY9 All American 1805 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He repeatedly expressed regret for his decision to use steroids, which he said was "foolish" and caused by his desire to overcome injuries, get back on the field and prove he was worth his multimillion salary." |
See, how hard was that? If he would have said this from the beginning he might have had a tough few months but he would've admitted what we already knew, plus people could at least somewhat sympathize with that reason. He is never getting into the Hall regardless but at least it would be over with by now and the world would have "forgiven" him. But I don't think people really care what he says or does anymore, and he will forever be known for his defiance in his lies.1/11/2010 7:00:31 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
I'd love to know, not just surmise, but KNOW what percentage of baseball players are using or have used steroids since say, 1985. My totally useless guess would be something like 65-75%. McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, Clemens, Caminetti, 99% on Jeff Bagwell, A-Rod, Manny, Ortiz, probably Pujols, Pettite, Brett Boone... I'm having a hard time coming up with more than a handful of guys with a shot at the HOF who I'm not convinced did 'roids. Maddux, Glavine, Jeter, Todd Helton, Ichiro... that's about it. 1/11/2010 7:49:48 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
The only one on that list that struck a chord with me is Pujols
I would be very disappointed if he is found out as a 'roider 1/11/2010 7:54:13 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Helton used to be a 40+ HR guy.. then suddenly dropped to like 15.. He's always been a great hitter for average and above average fielder, but he definitely lost some pop in there. Although maybe that's how it's supposed to be, hit 40+ when you're in your mid 20s, 30ish in your early 30's, and now hit about 15. I still wouldn't say he's definitely clean though 1/11/2010 7:55:09 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I forgot to mention Pudge
he's a borderline HOFer that was def 'roidin
[Edited on January 11, 2010 at 8:01 PM. Reason : .] 1/11/2010 8:01:09 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
haha PUJOLS struck a cord?
You mean the dude who came out of nowhere and hit for 50 HR his entire career?
The guy who could barely get to first base in under 5 seconds as a 25 year old?
The guy who had as much flexibility as a first baseman at age 25 as Fred McGriff did at 40?
He's the guy that stuck out to you?
What else sticks out, erect penises touching your tonsils? Be serious.
Oh yeah, and he's an import which is the automatic yes. I'm not racist I just know Latin Pro Baseball players use steroids... would you really chance not getting out of poverty because of "ethics"?? 1/11/2010 8:07:56 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Pudge is still a cinch first ballot HOF, IMO. Arguably best defensive catcher of all time, 2700+ hits, career .300 average, 14 time all start, but almost definitely a roider, but he's never really come under a ton of scrutiny, probably due to the huge drop in production at the tail of his still tailing career.
^Plus Pujols came up with the Cardinals as a teammate of McGwire. I'll be disappointed when it does come out that he's a roider, but I won't be surprised.
[Edited on January 11, 2010 at 8:17 PM. Reason : asdfasd] 1/11/2010 8:15:50 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Haha damn.
[Edited on January 11, 2010 at 8:16 PM. Reason : .] 1/11/2010 8:16:11 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, Ken Griffery Jr., probably not a roid head. Given what we now know about all his peers is it safe to say that he's the best position player of his generation by a pretty wide margin? 1/11/2010 8:21:03 PM |
Namwob All American 568 Posts user info edit post |
Cheaters never win Marcus. 1/11/2010 9:01:31 PM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
1/11/2010 9:07:37 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
of course he goes on to say he didn't think it helped him hit home runs, these guys just admit the bare minimum until they are forced 1/11/2010 9:07:53 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "haha PUJOLS struck a cord?" |
yeah pujols you sarcastic bastard
He's could go down as the greatest hitter ever1/11/2010 9:40:40 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Get the fuck off with that shit.
Are you kidding me rally? He was great as a rookie and has gotten slightly better if anything since the ban of roids. Quit hating. There is no evidence at all that he has cheated even in the slightest.1/11/2010 9:46:02 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
the only person who I would be pissed off if it came out that they juiced was Ken Griffey Jr.
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY else would surprise me if it came out they were juicing 1/11/2010 9:49:58 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Pujols has been fat, slow, and inflexible since he got to the bigs, but he can hit like a mother fucker and has since the beginning.
I actually think he's not built like the rest of the guys who clearly roided. His arms aren't that big, his traps aren't bulging out of his collar, and he's kinda fat and sloppy.
^I agree with that, although I'm throwing Pujols in that category too.
[Edited on January 11, 2010 at 9:51 PM. Reason : ] 1/11/2010 9:50:53 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You mean the dude who came out of nowhere and hit for 50 HR his entire career?" |
You mean the guy that has not hit 50 home runs in a season in his 9 years?
1/11/2010 9:56:37 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nobody, and I mean NOBODY else would surprise me if it came out they were juicing " |
Come on now. If Maddux came out and said he roided, you would be surprised. Glavine too.
As for the Pujols argument, I can see both sides. He was not highly regarded, shows up to spring training one season, hits like a bat out of hell, and has been pretty much awesome the last 9 years. Maybe he was just mis-scouted or maybe it was roids initially. Now that the game has been cleaned up significantly, I think he is just a great hitter.1/12/2010 8:10:30 AM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Now that the game has been cleaned up significantly" |
Oh please. Until they actually do regular and random testing I'll consider baseball a dirty sport. On top of that there are still lots of other stuff, like HGH, that we can't test for. There's nothing cleaned up about baseball, they've just made the penalties for getting caught stiffer, they've done nothing to catch more players. The fact that the MLBPA refuses to even consider the idea of more testing speaks volumes.1/12/2010 8:34:37 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ Believe what you want, but MLB is probably cleaner than the NFL or NBA now. Plus you can just look at the players now and tell there is less juicing. Instead of these huge guys like Sosa, McGwire, Ron Gant, Man-Ram, etc you see more regular guys like Utley and Mauer putting up the good numbers.
Yeah there are still guys probably on roids and HGH, but the game is cleaner now than it was during Big Mac's years. 1/12/2010 9:13:30 AM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
^that's like saying a whore who was infested with STDs is now a lot cleaner now.... 1/12/2010 12:01:40 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ Sure It is funny how the baseball haters will just continue to rail on MLB steroid issue because they think the sport is boring and will not acknowledge that steps have been taken to clean up the game.
Yeah steroids are still a big deal in the news, but it is mainly dealing with actions in the past. Just look at the players now, they are not anywhere as big as they were just 5 years ago. Seriously people who hate on baseball because of the steroids scandal and then give a pass to the NFL for similar actions baffles me.
[Edited on January 12, 2010 at 1:20 PM. Reason : sd] 1/12/2010 1:19:46 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
That's it. I'm selling all my Bash Brothers gear. 1/12/2010 4:28:20 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
just make 2 record books
one with records for people that use steroids. one without.
prob solved. eveyrbodys happy. or just legalize roids
dey all juicin anywayzzzz 1/12/2010 4:31:46 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
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GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
fuck it
if they aren't opening a hall of fame
i'm opening a hall of infamy
pete rose is my first inductee, along with shoeless joe 1/12/2010 4:35:30 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ Believe what you want, but MLB is probably cleaner than the NFL or NBA now." |
nba? the only major guy that could have been roiding was shaq, and while I wonder why no one has ever brought him up, I can't imagine it can be very widespread1/12/2010 5:28:52 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "MCGWIRE
USED
STERIODS" |
1/12/2010 7:19:38 PM |
Wolfpackman All American 1882 Posts user info edit post |
I'd say he's still coming out pretty good. Nice wife Mark.
1/13/2010 9:47:43 PM |