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^ (old)

12/2/2011 8:12:08 PM

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finally got the angel eye bi-xenon's in my 04 330ci

12/7/2011 9:15:35 PM

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latest issue of Car and Driver has a comparison between the M3 and C63 AMG. M3 won by one point, through slightly superior handling. However the C63 absolutely raped the M3 in acceleration, over a half second advantage to 60 and through the 1/4 mile.

Pick your poison I guess

12/7/2011 11:33:38 PM

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Does anyone know how much would it cost to add iPod/ USB integration to an 09 e93? I'm looking for a solution like that factory installed option. Not something that will disable the CD player.

[Edited on January 17, 2012 at 7:17 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2012 7:07:32 PM

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I'm not sure but the integration equipment I purchased for my S2000 cost $150. The brand I used is USA-Spec

1/18/2012 9:47:29 AM

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No love for the Tri-turbo Diesel Ms?

I know they are not coming to the US, but still... that's a new path for BMW.

I am sure many of you feel strongly about it whether in one direction or another!

2/2/2012 12:07:31 AM

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F30 328i. Underrated again from factory

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=646824

270hp or so at the crank instead of 240hp. Sweet engine and 34mpg highway!

2/10/2012 4:33:42 PM

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F13 M6:

2/11/2012 6:52:38 PM

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Something about the newer 3/5/6 styles just dont do it for me (90/92/30). 'Back in the day', an m coupe, nice 330ci, or m3 caught my eye more than just about any car our there for the respective price, but it's just not the same way now. I think the current c-class and a4 look better than the 3series, similarly, I dont think the 5 looks much better than the a6 (whereas before it was considerably better). Maybe its just a case of other brands having to step their respective styling games up, but Ive been moderately let down as of late. Besides the current 4-door m3, and the recent m coupe, I havent been that wowed by anything.

/trolling

2/11/2012 10:33:56 PM

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based purely off external looks, e46>e9x 3 series. IMO.

2/12/2012 3:06:53 AM

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I like the sharky look of the 335

Honestly I don't see a reason for the new 6 series.

A gtr is faster if a dd gt car is what you want. The caddy coupe is both faster and more awkward looking. I mean the only thing it will win in its segment is the leather feels good award. I swear bimmer uses cow labia or something.

I mean it's really just too heavy.

2/12/2012 9:41:46 AM

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I finally pulled the trigger! Picked it up yesterday! I haven't been so happy in a while!



09 335i e93 (Sport, Premium, Cold Weather packages, with nav and auto trans)



[Edited on February 12, 2012 at 9:24 PM. Reason : .]

2/12/2012 9:23:18 PM

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To each his own...but retractable hard top and slush box? Meh.

2/12/2012 11:50:27 PM

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its a super nice car though, and i'm sure very pleasant to drive

my grandmother's (guessing '98?) bmw has a nice feeling/shifting auto. Actually has a bit of catch to it off the line and solid-feeling gear shift engagement. Not harsh but not completely runny either. Totally tolerable for an auto.

2/13/2012 12:29:53 AM

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^^^ Congrats! I hope you enjoy it a metric ton

2/13/2012 12:38:24 AM

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nice E93. enjoy it.

2/13/2012 2:31:39 AM

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Just pulled the trigger on a new F30 328i... too bad it's still in Germany. The end of March can't get here soon enough!

2/13/2012 7:22:55 PM

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Nice.

2/13/2012 7:58:10 PM

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wickerman, buy a cobb and never look back.

2/13/2012 8:29:07 PM

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new 328i will be a great car. 300whp with software. 24/36 mpg.
just saw new F30 335i at dealer ysday. automatics are rated 23/33 vs E90 18/26.



[Edited on February 13, 2012 at 10:01 PM. Reason : f]

2/13/2012 9:58:12 PM

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^^ is COBB better than JB4? I'm still under warranty, gonna wait for it to expire before I do anything.. Also does everyone here use ethanol free gas? I just paid 4.20 a gallon for 91 octane ethanol free gas

2/14/2012 10:19:24 PM

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^why are you going to pay extra for ethanol free gasoline? The only justification I can see for getting ethanol free gasoline is because the vehicle's gas mileage suffers a little. That being the case, it doesn't suffer to the point that you're better off paying an extra 40 cents per gallon.

Too bad it looks...well like it looks The new F30 is only 3 1/2 inches shorter than the E34 5 Series...and it's just as heavy. Fucking BMW...

[Edited on February 14, 2012 at 11:47 PM. Reason : k]

2/14/2012 11:44:55 PM

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gas mileage difference should be less then 3% between 91 and e10 91

2/15/2012 6:43:26 AM

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" The new F30 is only 3 1/2 inches shorter than the E34 5 Series...and it's just as heavy"


F30 is actually lighter than E90. Not sure if it is fair to compare to E34 because it was designed 25 years ago with little safety features in mind. At least they are making them lighter than previous gen, as oppose to heavier.

[Edited on February 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM. Reason : g]

2/15/2012 11:54:34 AM

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^I say it's a fair comparison because we've had 25 years to advance our manufacturing and materials technologies.

2/15/2012 12:13:18 PM

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BMW is not in the business of manufacturing raw materials. They work with what suppliers have available. Anyhow, this weight gain trend is uniform acorss all car manufacturers.

2/15/2012 7:07:06 PM

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Well, not all manufacturers... :p

2/15/2012 8:11:16 PM

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"^^ is COBB better than JB4? I'm still under warranty, gonna wait for it to expire before I do anything."


cobb is a flash and job4 is a piggyback. the cobb is undetectable when un-flashed from the ecu. no way for the dealer to tell you have it. the jb4 is built from parts from radio shack, that is why it is 1/3 the cost of the cobb. i have going to the dealer 3 times, each time unflash the cobb and take it in. it takes about 10 minutes and it is all done from the drivers seat. my car is still under warranty also. not running a tune with a n54 is like having a gf with big tits that wont let you play with them. if you are in charlotte and want to drive mine and see why to do a tune let me know. i can run my on stage 1 which requires no other mods.

2/15/2012 9:05:02 PM

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"Anyhow, this weight gain trend is uniform acorss all car manufacturers."


To be fair, I complain about it with all manufacturers

And let's be honest, don't most people hold BMW to higher standards?

2/16/2012 10:55:30 AM

sumfoo1
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not really for weight anymore

they're kinda porkers...
you know better leather weighs more and they're luxury comes first.

2/16/2012 11:05:10 AM

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"^^ is COBB better than JB4? I'm still under warranty, gonna wait for it to expire before I do anything."


cobb is a flash and job4 is a piggyback. the cobb is undetectable when un-flashed from the ecu. no way for the dealer to tell you have it. the jb4 is built from parts from radio shack, that is why it is 1/3 the cost of the cobb. i have going to the dealer 3 times, each time unflash the cobb and take it in. it takes about 10 minutes and it is all done from the drivers seat. my car is still under warranty also. not running a tune with a n54 is like having a gf with big tits that wont let you play with them. if you are in charlotte and want to drive mine and see why to do a tune let me know. i can run my on stage 1 which requires no other mods."


the JB4/procede only takes abut 15 minutes to install when you get the hang of it though, just nee to be careful with the power connector as the housing is easy to break if not aware.

2/17/2012 2:49:42 PM

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"the JB4/procede only takes abut 15 minutes to install when you get the hang of it though, just nee to be careful with the power connector as the housing is easy to break if not aware."

why even bother taking a change to break a pin when the cobb plugs in the obd, can be used as a scanner and diagnostic tool, and all the tune changing can be done from your front seat? i realize it only take 15 min to change by why have to pop the hood and get into the ecu when you dont have to? i will never understand why someone would spend 20k-60k on a 335 and be too cheap to buy a cobb. jb4 is a radio shack garage built piece of junk. unless you are going to run meth why bother with a piggy? i tried the procede for 60 days and the power was not linear and honestly no better than the cobb. so i went back to cobb.

2/17/2012 8:22:44 PM

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Also, when I mentioned non-ethanol gas it was not cos of the better gas mileage it was because I've heard ethanol is bad in the long run, it apparently causes condensation inside the engine and is bad for the fuel pump..

2/19/2012 1:35:18 AM

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"why even bother taking a change to break a pin when the cobb plugs in the obd, can be used as a scanner and diagnostic tool, and all the tune changing can be done from your front seat? i realize it only take 15 min to change by why have to pop the hood and get into the ecu when you dont have to? i will never understand why someone would spend 20k-60k on a 335 and be too cheap to buy a cobb. jb4 is a radio shack garage built piece of junk. unless you are going to run meth why bother with a piggy? i tried the procede for 60 days and the power was not linear and honestly no better than the cobb. so i went back to cobb."


I agree the Cobb is superior in that respect. Some people enjoy the response of the other tunes though. With the trial period on the tunes, if one is able and doesn't mind the extra work it is worth trying the tunes and decide for ones self.

Has Cobb released a DP fix yet, I remember you having DPs? Do you just ignore the code or deal with it some other way?

2/20/2012 10:45:10 AM

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made a mistake of test driving E90 M3 this weekend. got reminded again why i love linear power delivery. it was depressing getting back into 335i. im still annoyed with how it falls on its nose past 5k. too bad M3 are still ridiculously expensive.

2/21/2012 2:16:16 AM

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need bigger turbos......

I love the torque punch turbos add but if they run off their compressor maps they seem to fall on their face.... (usually though the power just stops climbing and levels off like a table unless your inter-cooler isn't up to the task of removing all the extra heat)

Do you have anything done to yours? I really think stone's car would probably spank a v8 m in everything but a track day.



hell my 4 banger can keep up with that....

2/21/2012 8:05:11 AM

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Sure, bigger turbos would solve the problems of weak top end, but would add lag and would ruin drivability. Stock 335i is 340chp car, which is more than plenty of power, let alone torque. It has great drivability with max torque on tap at 1400rpm. I have Cobb on mine. It changed the power significantly, but the fact it’s just blowing hot air past 5k bothers me. Coming from E46 M3 and E39 M5 you get spoiled with throttle response and linear power delivery. Squeezing between cars on highway with 335i requires anticipation when will boost kick in and how far should you back off before gunning it. With M3/M5 it was the standard drop to 3rd and hammer down. It goes exactly where you point it.

It’s a compromise…as everything else in life.

p.s. nice power!

2/21/2012 1:13:42 PM

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"Squeezing between cars on highway with 335i requires anticipation when will boost kick in and how far should you back off before gunning it. "


welcome to the (sometimes) wonderful world of turbochargers!

2/21/2012 1:24:17 PM

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(that's not mine that's an m3... i have waaayyyy more torque then that and about 20 more hp)

I'll see if i can get a good dyno....

but seriously i don't know how much the turbo market has developed for them but you just have to find the right one for you.

I have a billet TD06 20g on mine... it spools right @ my cruising speed on the interstate so even in 5th she jumps up and goes..

now with my power level a lot of people would have went to a 30r because its ball bearing and cooler... but to be honest i really think JB turbos spool faster then BB turbos (but they're not as durable) and the extra 20-40 hp that i don't need comes with a 2-400rpm delay in boost that would be flat annoying. the great thing about subarus is we have a turbo for about every +100rpm spool & +20whp so you can get

2/21/2012 1:27:12 PM

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"Has Cobb released a DP fix yet, I remember you having DPs? Do you just ignore the code or deal with it some other way?"

with cobb anything stg2 or 2+ has dp fix built in

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"I really think stone's car would probably spank a v8 m in everything but a track day"

i know it will out straight line a e92m. i have a friend with one that has exhaust and intake and straight line i pull away easily to 40mph, the he will pull me in a bit from 40 to 60, then from 60-120 i am pulling away again. there is no way on a track that i could keep up through the twisties or after 2 laps when my car goes into limp mode from overheating. i do want to run vir this year with meth and see if that helps. even with oil coolers n54's still runs hot. maybe a water pump would help, seems some people have had luck there.

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"made a mistake of test driving E90 M3 this weekend. got reminded again why i love linear power delivery. it was depressing getting back into 335i. im still annoyed with how it falls on its nose past 5k. too bad M3 are still ridiculously expensive"

short sift that bitch and get back into the tq

i have been keeping up with shiv's single turbo. i think i would go to rb's twins before i went single. i really love the lack of lag these cars have with cobb in 2+. if you are running cobb1 the difference between stock and 1 is close to the difference between 1 and 2+. when race gas maps come out to harness meth i think i will dyno. all said and done i will have less than 3k in extras and should run low 11.2-11.3 consistently with 425+ whp and be every day drivable. couple that with it being a 4 door sedan that looks 100% stock and it really is a sleeper.

every day i love this car more. i do still have an itch for a e92m, nothing like m powa.....

[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM. Reason : ]

2/22/2012 8:16:48 PM

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"im still annoyed with how it falls on its nose past 5k"


I hear you. I want something fun but stock to drive on the weekend. Anything with a stock turbo setup is pretty much out of the question.

2/22/2012 8:53:26 PM

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^^What's your 0-60 time?

[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 9:01 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2012 9:01:23 PM

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Honestly slut, if you don't chip a stock turbo car they done seem to fall on their face so hard. But when most max the flow on the turbo and taper boost to keep it from just blowing hot air the hp plateau is an obvious side effect.

I really like turbos, a lot of people act like they delive some sort of un controllable power surge. Yes it gives you torque that the engine wouldn't have had otherwise. Can you control it ? Yep. And honestly I would rather have that surge of torque down low then wait to build revs.

My favorite thing about my car is 70mph passing. At a 70 cruise I am right on my boost threshold so if some jack hole tries to box me out or somthing I just press a little more pressure on the throttle and this wave of torque carries me past with no lurch or downshift or anything just wwwiiiiisssssddSSSSSSHHHHHH. Gone.


IMHO the ideal engine ALWAYS has similar hp & tq numbers, boosted or not.
And less then 11 lbs per hp.

[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 9:18 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2012 9:16:05 PM

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stone,

i short shift ALL the time! i love this car too, but M is just special and first love. i love the RELIABILITY of linear delivery. you gun it and you know power only goes up, never down. Torque is nice, but I could live without it. I did in E46 M3, which was essentially 6 cyl S2k.

slut, this car in a lot of ways reminds me of chipped 1.8Ts you are familiar with. I remember my 20th GTI had software, 3" GHL TB, charge pipe and all other bolt ons and it would still just fall flat past 5k. Unless you went with GT28RS all these mods were just kids play. this car is the same just with a bigger engine.

2/23/2012 1:50:40 AM

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There are reasons every turbo car acts like this. Typically when a manufacturer puts a turbo on a street car it's to punch up the torque on a small engine. This combined with the fact they usually build the bottom end and fuel system to handle all that the turbocharger can possibly throw its way. This is just incase the wastegate sticks they don't have to replace the entire engine just the turbo. This is well known by the aftermarket so... Why not max out the flow on the turbo giving you the full hp right when it hits peak boost and tapering it off to maintain compressor efficiency and allow the wastegate to open releasing some exhaust pressure. This gives you a not so peaky plateau of a hp curve and a huge torque spike that tapers to redline.

The only people who don't taper off boost seems to be the 1.8/2.0 people and that's because almost any fmic can remove any/all heat introduce by the compressor at such low flow rates.

2/23/2012 6:53:37 AM

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i guess my point is, i'd rather have over 450hp for 3000 rpm then 1500.

2/23/2012 8:05:45 AM

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are we looking at the same graph? from that graph M3 makes 450hp for ~2000rpm (from 6-8k rpm...possibly longer since redline is 8400rpm), same as subies, while having much flatter torque curve and 100ft.lb MORE where it matters (down low from 2400rpm through 4000rpm). it's clearly superior in one billion ways. STI graph look like typical 335 graph, which annoys me.

this peak torque of turbo cars is worthless to me. i only care about HP number.



[Edited on February 23, 2012 at 6:48 PM. Reason : plot the area under the curve]

[Edited on February 23, 2012 at 6:49 PM. Reason : f]

2/23/2012 6:46:07 PM

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"^^What's your 0-60 time?"

i dont have a v-box but the cobb will time it when you run 1/4 times. my best has been 3.9, never replicated, 4.0-4.1 consistently. i have seen autos with the same set up run 3.6's. pretty quick.

2/23/2012 8:10:30 PM

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^ dang!

2/23/2012 11:49:06 PM

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2/24/2012 7:14:43 AM

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