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" Long Beach Police SUV Runs Over Sunbather Victim's Back Broken As Police Respond To Swimmer In Distress Reporting Jennifer McLogan LONG BEACH, N.Y. (CBS) The search has changed from a rescue mission to a recovery effort at Jones Beach Thursday morning, as two young men are presumed drowned in two separate incidents on Long Island beaches. An investigation is now underway after a Long Beach sunbather is run over by a police SUV. The victim remains in critical condition Thursday with a broken spine, and now the accident has many thinking twice about allowing heavy vehicles on the beach. You can see his sandal still sitting in the sand, along with part of a crumpled chaise lounge. The 43-year-old victim was on his cell phone, listening to the radio when police said a Long Beach SUV accelerated suddenly in response to a swimmer in distress. "It necessitated a very sharp right-hand turn and that would be on the passenger's side, where you do have sort of a blind spot, and the unfortunate individual was in a low chaise lounge and unfortunately got run over," said Long Beach City Manager Charles Theofan. Theofan said the accident occurred when steamy weather drove hundreds to the beach, which doesn't officially open until Saturday. With no lifeguards yet on duty, extra officers were called in in various vehicles. "Maybe they can do something about that, but they have to be out here and we've seen them rescue people and help people," said Long Beach resident Steve Fein. Fein and his family watched the drama unfold and wondered about beach rules and heavy police vehicles. "I'm on the beach a lot and I always see these big trucks and I always wonder, 'Wow they are like three inches from me,'" said Gayle Fein. Long Beach does have lighter patrol vehicles and rules keep them in an emergency lane near the water's edge. During the summer season, they may now make changes. In Miami Beach, policy changed when a police SUV there killed a sunbathing tourist. Now, those Florida officers must patrol on bicycles and all terrain vehicles, limit speeds to 15 miles an hour, and use overhead flashing lights on the beach. New York State Park Police have SUVs, but at Jones Beach they try to use restricted lane and snow fences as boundaries. "We keep clear so that if there is an emergency on the shoreline they will be able to respond," said New York State Parks Spokesman George Gorman. The sunbathing victim, identified as Marshall Starkman, remains in intensive care with a broken back. His family in Oceanside declined comment and they may be hiring a lawyer. The officer who hit him didn't even know it until he heard the shouts. In light of the accident, several communities around New York have pledge to re-examine their policies regarding police vehicles patrolling beaches "

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/long.beach.sunbather.2.1719609.html



[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 11:00 AM. Reason : are you fucking happy now!!!]

5/28/2010 10:42:34 AM

Good rule of thumb when driving on the beach...never drive faster than children can run...if you're in an area with a lot of people out.

5/28/2010 10:46:10 AM

shit happens. no need to limit the ability of emergency responders due to one freak accident.

5/28/2010 10:49:43 AM

this is too long

not quoted properly

no bolded parts for easy skimming

AND NO SUMMARY

5/28/2010 10:50:54 AM

^ summary: cop runs over dood on beach

5/28/2010 10:51:29 AM

Yeah this thread is bullshit.

5/28/2010 10:51:37 AM

In a preemptive defense of my opinions in the previous and somewhat related thread (see "Trooper Goodnight is a god damn murderer") I believe that this is ridiculous and whoever ran over that guy on the beach deserves to become jobless and policies need to be changed about how fast people can drive on the beach when chasing speeders after people who are drowning


[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 10:53 AM. Reason : but he shouldn't be charged with anything ridiculous like assault with intent to kill]

5/28/2010 10:51:47 AM

I wouldn't say that he needs to be fired, however the policy should definitely be changed.

5/28/2010 10:53:07 AM

rabble rabble something about depth perception at 120mph rabble rabble

5/28/2010 10:56:27 AM

just switch to 4 wheelers.

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"previous and somewhat related thread "

not really related...cop responding to life and death situation /= cop going 120 to catch 80 mph speeder.

[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 10:58 AM. Reason : .]

5/28/2010 10:56:33 AM

Why the fuck would they be using SUVs on a beach in the first place? Seems like an ATV or a motorcycle would be entirely better-suited for the job anyway, regardless of speed limitations.

5/28/2010 10:56:50 AM

Motorcycle? I don't think so, definitely ATV though (although it's harder to transport injured people off the beach on the back of either of those)

5/28/2010 10:57:46 AM

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"Why the fuck would they be using SUVs on a beach in the first place?"

Usually the lifeguards are on ATVs and the cops use SUVs. You can't really transport someone to jail on an ATV.

I think the guy should be fired. Sounds like he's just a bad driver who is unaware of his surroundings. I don't buy the bit about him not being able to see the guy because he had to make a sharp right hand turn. He should have seen him the whole time he was approaching the guy, long before making the turn.

5/28/2010 11:00:59 AM

Here's the question, was the cop, himself, going to go out there into the ocean? Or is he going to let the lifeguard do it?

If not, why the fuck does he need to get there that fast?

5/28/2010 11:05:06 AM

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"I wouldn't say that he needs to be fired"

:facepalm:

Most jobs will fire you if you miss work, cuss out loud, fart too much.
But if you're a cop, on the job, you can commit actual crimes [negligent battery, or whatever]...
...and not only would you get away with the crime, you'd likely keep your job!
And for some really fucked up reason, there will always be shitfucks like God to defend them.

[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2010 11:05:27 AM

dood on the beach failed to yield to the cop's SUV

5/28/2010 11:06:20 AM

^
gg

5/28/2010 11:08:24 AM

Nah the cop doesn't need to be fired, but he should probably learn that driving fast on a crowded beach is never something that should happen.

Kids go running to the ocean not looking for cars, because they are on the beach.

That could have easily been a 4 year old kid running to get a bucket of water to fill up the hole he dug.

I think this is just an example of a cop that isn't thinking about all the civilians around when he is called to an emergency. There is no reason to cause another emergency by trying to get to one.

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"And for some really fucked up reason, there will always be shitfucks like God to defend them"

Not all cops are guys that were losers in high school that are trying to get back at all the people that hurt their feelings. There are a lot of cops out there that have inflated egos. We don't hear the stories of the cops that go out of their way to help citizens, we hear the stories of cops that beat guys with no legs.
Situations like this suck, and this guy should probably have to suffer some consequence for his lack of decision making.


[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 11:16 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2010 11:11:24 AM

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"ere's the question, was the cop, himself, going to go out there into the ocean? Or is he going to let the lifeguard do it? If not, why the fuck does he need to get there that fast?"

See....

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"With no lifeguards yet on duty, extra officers were called in in various vehicles. "

[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 11:13 AM. Reason : .]

5/28/2010 11:12:50 AM

the sunbather clearly should have yielded to the lights

clearly

5/28/2010 11:14:13 AM

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"And for some really fucked up reason, there will always be shitfucks like God to defend them. "

Haha, thanks. I think you missed me in that other thread where I said the officer should be sent to prison.

I'm usually the first person to hate on cops (really, I am), but for some reason this just seems like bad circumstances to me. That and the fact that the guy lived as well.

Optimally, I'd have a formal reprimand on the cop's record for driving recklessly, a civil payment by the city to help the gentleman who got injured, and amending the policy.

5/28/2010 11:14:42 AM

Sounds like cell phones need to be banned if anything.

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"The 43-year-old victim was on his cell phone"

5/28/2010 11:15:05 AM

For some reason I can't ever see someone saying "Nah the cab driver doesn't need to be fired, but he should probably learn that driving fast on a crosswalk is never something that should happen."

5/28/2010 11:15:10 AM

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"For some reason I can't ever see someone saying "Nah the cab driver doesn't need to be fired, but he should probably learn that driving fast on a crosswalk is never something that should happen.""

For some reason I can't ever see someone saying "Nah the cop doesn't need to be fired, but he should probably learn that shooting someone in the face is never something that should happen"


Hey look, I can make ridiculous unrelated analogies too!

5/28/2010 11:17:19 AM

^What I meant by that is that he shouldn't lose his job, but he should be put on desk duty, he should have the ability to drive on the beach taken away.

5/28/2010 11:18:06 AM

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"Sounds like cell phones need to be banned if anything."

The dude was LAYING ON THE BEACH.

He doesn't have to be paying attention.

5/28/2010 11:18:22 AM

I think everyone should have the ability to drive on the beach taken away.

5/28/2010 11:18:33 AM

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" The dude was LAYING ON THE BEACH. He doesn't have to be paying attention."

Apparently he does.

5/28/2010 11:19:27 AM

Andymac he's trolling you

5/28/2010 11:19:47 AM

ATVs can't carry all of the necessary gear to do all aspects of the job. We have a mixture of ATVs and pickups here with the main patrol being ATVs. It is not uncommon though for a pickup to need to quickly get to a location w/ backboards, o2, various other supllies, and even jet skis, and they will go at reasonably quick speeds up and down the beach if they need to and it's safe to do so as well.

5/28/2010 11:19:58 AM

For some reason I can't ever see someone saying "Nah the pro baseball player doesn't need to be fired, but he should probably learn that pitching baseballs at 120 mph to people with bad depth perception is never something that should happen"

5/28/2010 11:20:02 AM

haha no! I love driving on the beach.


I mean the guy made a mistake. He wasn't looking at his surroundings and he showed his inability to make the right choice on impulse.

5/28/2010 11:20:18 AM

^^Those situations aren't analogous, and you know it.

[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 11:20 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2010 11:20:28 AM

Its also pretty hard to miss a large SUV with flashing lights driving on the beach even when you are trying not to pay attention.

5/28/2010 11:21:59 AM

That's the whole point. Neither is a situation where a cabby is driving on the sidewalk.

5/28/2010 11:22:26 AM

Police SUVs don't need to be taken off the beach, but the police who are driving them need to realize that the beach is not a road and people aren't on the look out for vehicles driving up and down the beach.

If you take the SUVs away then people will complain when there isn't one there when one could have been used.

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"Its also pretty hard to miss a large SUV with flashing lights driving on the beach even when you are trying not to pay attention."

Not really. People sleep on the beach plenty. People are reading, or watching their kids down at the water, they aren't looking to the sides of them watching out for vehicles. Flashing lights on a beach do nothing, especially on a bright day.

[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 11:23 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2010 11:22:42 AM

I literally can't think of a situation in which you'd need an SUV on the beach.

5/28/2010 11:23:13 AM

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"ATVs can't carry all of the necessary gear to do all aspects of the job. We have a mixture of ATVs and pickups here with the main patrol being ATVs. It is not uncommon though for a pickup to need to quickly get to a location w/ backboards, o2, various other supllies, and even jet skis, and they will go at reasonably quick speeds up and down the beach if they need to and it's safe to do so as well."

It's good that they have backboards for all the spines they shatter on the way to incidents.

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"For some reason I can't ever see someone saying "Nah the pro baseball player doesn't need to be fired, but he should probably learn that pitching baseballs at 120 mph to people with bad depth perception is never something that should happen""

You're right, when someone pitches a ball 120 mph and someone with bad depth perception is hitting in the major leagues you'll totally have a point.

And I didn't say a sidewalk, I said a crosswalk.

[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2010 11:23:14 AM

All this talk about baseball is making me sleepy *yawn*

5/28/2010 11:24:02 AM

^^ Ah, damn. I misread that, my bad

5/28/2010 11:25:18 AM

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"dood on the beach failed to yield to the cop's SUV"

You just made me lol.

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"That could have easily been a 4 year old kid running to get a bucket of water to fill up the hole he dug."

I'd be more likely to blame it on circumstance if this were the case. I mean, this dude ran over someone who was sitting in a chair listening to music and talking on the phone. That's negligent as fuck.

And you've got the City Manager pointing out that he was in a low chaise lounge. What else are you going to sit on at the beach? Do I need to pull the deck off my house and carry it if I want to be safe?

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"When he first hit him, he stopped," said Scott Cali, 47. "Then he accelerated and went over him while people were yelling. I guess he didn't see him and went right over him. It was just a horrible accident."

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/li_beach_horror_TnIdrkbW1hrDljLkoGtDLK

What a dumb fuck. You hear a thud, people are screaming at you, so you take off again?

It's just gross negligence to run over someone sitting in a chair on a freaking beach. He must be related to this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDnIsY8Tkj4&feature=related

5/28/2010 11:25:57 AM

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"You can't really transport someone to jail on an ATV."

Walk the motherfucker to the road and put him in a cop car. Putting SUVs on the beach is fucking retarded.

5/28/2010 11:26:21 AM

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"I literally can't think of a situation in which you'd need an SUV on the beach."

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"It is not uncommon though for a pickup to need to quickly get to a location w/ backboards, o2, various other supllies, and even jet skis"

5/28/2010 11:27:16 AM

Yeah...ATV's are great for patrolling, but there are times when you need things that an ATV is not big enough to carry.

5/28/2010 11:28:40 AM

I'm thinking the police are doing a run and someone is sleeping in the sand or buried by the kids or something not sitting in a chaise lounge.

5/28/2010 11:44:58 AM

Clearly this is the dude's fault, clearly.

5/28/2010 11:56:48 AM

Dude, not dood

5/28/2010 12:00:43 PM

SICK BURN 73

5/28/2010 12:02:05 PM

SICK BURN ERNIE

5/28/2010 12:02:56 PM

set em up

5/28/2010 12:11:14 PM