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6/28/2010 3:20:28 PM

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She may be very busy. I can only think of a few coaches who can make an air tight case to keep their jobs.

6/28/2010 3:21:57 PM

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obligatoryI DIDN'T REALIZE THE AD OFFICE WAS A KITCHEN

Regardless of cooking duties, I think she will be a great addition. I just hope TOB can get on track this year; another coach replacement and football will be in the shitter for a decade

[Edited on June 28, 2010 at 3:47 PM. Reason : lkj]

6/28/2010 3:35:22 PM

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IN OTHER NEWS

6/28/2010 4:02:28 PM

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FUUUUUUUUCK WHERE'D HIS ARM GO?

6/28/2010 4:11:35 PM

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dang, recruit's arm falls off? ain't that some nc state shit?

6/28/2010 4:15:46 PM

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THE ZACH GOWEN OF BASKETBALL

6/28/2010 4:17:39 PM

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http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/story/7884858/

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Dr. Yow is eligible for one of the following bonuses per contract year:
# $20,000 in contract years one through three in which NC State's performance ended during such contract year ranks in the top 50 and $15,000 in contract years four and five in which NC state's performance ended during such contract year ranks in the top 50 or $25,000 for a top 25 in the Final Director's Cup Standings

These bonuses are not cumulative. Any amount earned will be paid no later than September 30 immediately following the end of the then applicable contract year.

Football

Dr. Yow is eligible for one of the following bonuses per contract year (ties decided by ACC tiebreakers):
# $50,000 in any contract year in which the Football team wins the ACC championship
# $25,000 in any contract year in which the Football team finishes the ACC regular season in second, third, or fourth place
# $15,000 in any contract year in which the Football team finishes the ACC regular season in fifth or sixth place
# $100,000 in any contract year in which the Football team wins the NCAA national championship

These bonuses are not cumulative. Any amount earned will be paid within 90 days following the date of the bowl game.

Men's Basketball

Dr. Yow is eligible for one of the following bonuses per contract year:
# $25,000 in any contract year in which the Men's Basketball team wins the ACC regular season championship
# $10,000 in any contract year in which the Men's Basketball team wins the ACC Tournament championship
# $20,000 in contract years one through three in which the Men's Basketball team participates in the NCAA postseason tournament and $15,000 in contract years four through five for the same
# $25,000 in any contract year in which the Men's Basketball team participates in the Final Four of the NCAA postseason tournament
# $50,000 in any contract year in which the Men's Basketball team is named NCAA national champions

These bonuses are not cumulative. Any amount earned will be paid within 90 days following the last game played by the team in the NCAA postseason basketball tournament.

Women's Basketball

Dr. Yow is eligible for one of the following bonuses per contract year:
# $25,000 in any contract year in which the Women's Basketball team wins the ACC regular season championship
# $10,000 in any contract year in which the Women's Basketball team wins the ACC Tournament championship
# $20,000 in contract years one through three in which the Women's Basketball team participates in the NCAA postseason tournament and $15,000 in contract years four through five for the same
# $25,000 in any contract year in which the Women's Basketball team participates in the Final Four of the NCAA postseason tournament
# $50,000 in any contract year in which the Women's Basketball team is named NCAA national champions
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GET WINS
GET PAID

7/1/2010 9:56:46 AM

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http://www.technicianonline.com/news/q-a-with-new-ad-debbie-yow-comes-home-1.2277949

What do you see as the biggest challenge in your new job?
I see a really big fiscal challenge, especially in balancing the budget. I’ve started looking at the budget. We’re doing quite nicely in men’s basketball and football, in terms of the sports being self-supporting. There is work to be done in Olympic sports though. Another challenge will be the culture change. Everyone will have to truly believe that it can be done. There’s a difference in talking the talk and walking the walk. Also, we’re going to have to match the resources to the expectations. There is going to be a high level of expectations, so the resources will have to match that.

7/1/2010 11:38:58 AM

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"# $25,000 in any contract year in which the Football team finishes the ACC regular season in second, third, or fourth place
# $15,000 in any contract year in which the Football team finishes the ACC regular season in fifth or sixth place"


Wow. That sets the bar fairly low. A $25,000 bonus for a 4th place finish? A $15,000 bonus if all you do is place 6th? I'd be upset if our football program only got 6th place in an already weak football conference.

I guess I just have to remember where we're at currently. 10th-12th. Baby steps I guess.

7/1/2010 2:15:19 PM

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^I think you are asking the wrong question. If incentives maxed at 5th-6th place it would be a low bar. As it is, there is a continuum of incentives from average performances to championship performances. I'd look at it more as performance-based pay than "bonuses" (lower base salary plus performance-based triggers). Ask yourself one question: Isn't it better to pay more salary for a 4th, 5th or 6th place finish than 11th or 12th? I personally like seeing a reward for fielding a competitive program over a laughingstock, rather than having no financial difference between finishes if a championship is not won.

Obviously championships are the ultimate goal, and the incentives should and do reflect that.

7/1/2010 2:25:31 PM

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Still fell 6th place is pretty low. Maybe an incentive for finishing in the top 3rd, nothing for finishing in the middle 3rd, and demerits for finishing in the bottom 3rd.

Of course we'd get quality ADs with contracts like that.

7/1/2010 2:29:39 PM

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Maybe its already been discussed, but what exactly would she do to get the football/basketball teams turned around that fast? Seems like it would be all on our coaches shoulders, and if she fires them immediately then our program would be shittier anyway for another couple of years. Guess what I'm asking is, what does the AD do besides hire coaches (aka search committee blah blah blah) and wags her finger when they do something wrong with the media?

I also wonder what those bonuses are for the head coaches if that's what the AD would get

7/2/2010 6:11:37 AM

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O'Brien's bonuses are:

-50K each year the NCAA 6-year grad rate is higher than 55%
-50K for a non-BCS bowl
-100K for playing in the ACC championship game
-200K for winning the ACC championship game and/or playing in a BCS game(in addition to the 100K)
-50K for winning 5 ACC games, plus 50K for winning the 6th game, plus 50K for winning the 7th game, plus 50K for winning the 8rd game
-For the highest ranking in either the USA Today/ESPN/BCS final poll, in the top 5 (200K, next 5 (150K), next five (100K), and next 5 (50K)

[Edited on July 2, 2010 at 10:13 AM. Reason : for got add the and/or BCS game]

7/2/2010 10:08:36 AM

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"Maybe its already been discussed, but what exactly would she do to get the football/basketball teams turned around that fast? Seems like it would be all on our coaches shoulders, and if she fires them immediately then our program would be shittier anyway for another couple of years. Guess what I'm asking is, what does the AD do besides hire coaches (aka search committee blah blah blah) and wags her finger when they do something wrong with the media?"


Getting our recruiting budgets up, at least at the average ACC level, in football and basketball is probably the most immediate thing she can do to improve those programs. Our budgets are shamefully low!

7/2/2010 10:35:02 AM

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She mentioned the finances as something she wanted to focus on specifically for the nonrevenue sports. We have a VERY different situation than Maryland, in that we are pretty flush with revenue but operate some of our programs on the cheap. Kind of like the Washington Nationals a year or two ago. It's pretty disconcerting for fans/boosters that we have one of the biggest profit margins (surrounded in the rankings by bigger/more successful football/basketball programs) but don't have the return on investment. What we really need to do is to evaluate where we spend money and increase spending in some areas.

7/2/2010 10:51:32 AM

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I know it's an old topic, but there's a lot of debt service on the facilities improvements to pay for.

Just like you can't spend a lot of money at Bojangle's because you gotta make a car payment each month.

7/2/2010 11:51:04 AM

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" $100,000 in any contract year in which the Football team wins the NCAA national championship"


hell, ill pay DR. Yow if we win the ncaa championship in football

7/2/2010 12:27:15 PM

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Damon Evans will soon be available... Shits getting messssssy down here

http://m.ajc.com/news/atlanta/incident-report-evans-tried-563333.html

7/2/2010 8:39:52 PM

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"The trooper, who noted that Evans had a pair of red panties between his legs, asked the athletic director "what her panties were doing in his side of the seat. He stated, ‘She took them off and I held them because I was just trying to get her home.' ""


LOFUCKINGL

7/2/2010 9:17:47 PM

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damnnnnn

7/2/2010 9:26:22 PM

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7/2/2010 9:34:35 PM

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Holy shit, the athletics department put something on the web that doesn't look like it was designed by student in an Intro to HTML class:

http://gopack.com/fls/9200/HTML_Files/M-Basketball/basketball-2010-splash/basketball-splash.html

7/6/2010 3:04:00 AM

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Did she fire some people already? That looks way too nice for someone currently working for State to have produced.

7/6/2010 7:49:35 AM

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Credibility +1?

7/6/2010 8:37:42 AM

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http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/story/7971431/

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"“We’ve developed a theme: ‘Wolfpack Unlimited: refuse to accept the status quo.’”

And that message resonates throughout a N.C. State fan base hungry for winners.

“It’s absolutely important to our fan base to set high goals. We do have issues to fix for us to achieve at the highest levels of the NCAA.”

Yow plans to meet with each of her coaches to determine what their programs need for success, then hold those coaches accountable once those needs are met."


shes gettin' it done.

7/16/2010 10:47:11 AM

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still credible

7/16/2010 10:57:06 AM

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WOLPFACK UNLIMITEDDDDDDDDDD

7/16/2010 10:59:22 AM

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i'll throw my emails with her in here, i feel they make her absolutely credible.

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Sent: 7/9/2010 10:49:42 AM
Subject: Welcome- from a Class of 2008 alumni!

Mrs. Yow,

First of all, welcome to the Wolfpack family! I am excited about the future of our great university under your new leadership and believe that the future looks brighter than ever for NC State University!

I am a recent graduate (College of Engineering/College of Textiles 2008) of this great university and can honestly say that my four years at NC State were the four best years of my life. The opportunity to meet new people from all walks of life, and learn at a place so technologically advanced as our Centennial Campus, was truly a one of a kind experience. I truly had the best experiences, and made some of my favorite memories from 2004-2008.

My very first football game as an NC State student was on Saturday, September 4th 2004- a day that lives infamously in the hearts and minds of all the Wolfpack family. As you know, on that day two young adults made a horrible decision that cost the lives of two young men just outside the stadium. Word of the shooting spread like wildfire through the student section by the 2nd quarter and weighed heavily on the minds of all of us for the remainder of the game. Six years later, we still feel the ripple effects of that day around all of the Wolfpack family on game days. We have had tailgate restrictions in place for six years now, all because of two mentally deranged individuals who made horrible decisions. While there is no place for such behaviors anywhere, I feel that limiting the ability of the Wolfpack faithful to enjoy an entire day of the excitement surrounding game day is unfair, especially to us Wolfpack Club donors who pay high costs for parking for a mere five hours of enjoyment.

The game day experience is more than simply just the game. Ask any Virginia Tech fan or Clemson fan what it is like on gameday in Blacksburg or Clemson, and they will say it is like a religious experience for them! I am confident that we can make NC State a place with a similar atmosphere.

I respectfully ask that this issue again be brought forth and addressed in a way that will again rejuvenate our fan base, and allow us to maximize the time we spend with family and friends as we make the Carter-Finley Stadium grounds such an integral part of our fall season.

Thanks for your consideration and welcome HOME to N.C State University!

Kevin McDonald
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Wolfpack Club Alumni Donor
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From: Debbie Yow [mailto:d_yow@ncsu.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:40 PM
To: Kevin McDonald
Cc: david_horning@ncsu.edu; bobby.purcell@wolfpackclub.com
Subject: Re: Welcome- from a Class of 2008 alumni!

Kevin,
Thank you for the email and welcome.
Could you identify for me the tailgating changes that were made subsequent to the shooting that you believe should be retracted?
I apologize, but I do not know about the issues you referenced.
Debbie

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Debbie,

Apologies for not specifically referencing the restrictions. Since the shooting, tailgate rules have changed to prohibit fans from tailgating up until a mere 5 hours before the game. This makes it tough to plan when alumni are coming in from out of town specifically for the game, and doesn't offer much of an opportunity to enjoy the football grounds. Previously, there was no such restriction and students and alumni would arrive to tailgate in the mornings, and often times the night before, to set up tents, grills, etc. The atmosphere was fantastic. Instead of coming to Raleigh in the morning for a night game, fans have to wait to travel to get there at the same time. Not only does this take away from the ability to create a special college football setting, but it also helps create one of the biggest traffic log-jams on roads surrounding the grounds (Blue Ridge Rd., and Trinity Rd) on game days.

It has also been my experience that with the 5 hour restriction, students on campus would find other locations to begin tailgating, consume alcohol remotely, and THEN make the drive over to the tailgate grounds when the gates finally open. To me, this is a bigger safety issue than it is to allow students & fans to convene in the lots earlier.

The second main restriction is the prohibition of kegs on tailgate grounds. Although I believe this to be a distant secondary issue compared to the 5 hour restriction, there has been a significant increase in the amount of trash in and around the student lots over the past few years. More trash cans would certainly serve the student lot well, as students don't necessarily take the time to bring their own bags for their trash.

Thank you for taking the time to respond- you have certainly solidified my feelings that we now have a true leader of the Pack.

Sincerely,

Kevin McDonald
NCSU Class of 2008
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Kevin,
Thanks for providing the history on this issue.

I will need to take the time to carefully listen to the VP for Student Affairs regarding his rationale for the recommendation and also talk to Bobby and David Horning.

I promise I'll do that and review the whole thing during the season. I believe the time was extended to 5 hours. Sorry I can't say something more specific right now, but I like to fully review these kinds of concerns. Always bad form to be loud and wrong.

Thanks.
Debbie
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7/16/2010 11:00:55 AM

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cool she took time to reply and ask you questions back. +1 credibility.

7/16/2010 11:36:23 AM

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^^ wow, nice!

7/16/2010 12:51:08 PM

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"+1 credibility."

7/16/2010 12:55:50 PM

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"+1 credibility."

7/16/2010 2:40:55 PM

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In my 4.5 years at NCSU(graduated in 2005), I emailed Lee Fowler 4 times, and the one and only time I received a response it was from his god-damn secretary and it was in reference to my family canceling their season tickets b/c of how shitty the game day atmosphere was the last 2 years of Amato's guidance.


Dr. Yow is off to a great start, and it says alot to me that she personally took the time to address you and seriously look into the issue you brought up.

I was on the fence about renewing my season football tickets this year, but after getting rid of Fowler, and an seeing some of AD Yows' efforts, I believe I will be renewing this year. Im starting to think she is/was the "right" person for the job!

7/16/2010 3:18:12 PM

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So glad to see Yow winning over the lunatic fringe

7/17/2010 12:20:01 AM

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I feel sorry for Mike Archer if this season goes to shit. With Fowlup gone he will witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station lunatic fringe.

7/17/2010 7:54:43 AM

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I emailed her about having a dog/wolf mascot.

She loved the idea and said she would look into it.

7/17/2010 8:39:50 AM

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I emailed her about getting a hydraulic lift installed at the 50 yard line so the team could come up from under the field at the start of the game in formation and run a bad ass play

7/17/2010 7:33:02 PM

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"+1 credibility."

7/17/2010 8:40:15 PM

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^^

7/17/2010 8:42:03 PM

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I'm going to email her and ask that she get rid of the microphone guy in front of the student section at fb games. What's his name again? NOTHING infuriates me more than that guy at games.

7/17/2010 10:53:47 PM

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"I emailed her about having a dog/wolf mascot.

She loved the idea and said she would look into it."


Why won't this shit die?

7/17/2010 11:02:17 PM

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why should it

7/18/2010 1:12:47 AM

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in fowler's defense, he probably didn't know how to work his email.

7/18/2010 1:43:08 AM

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"I'm going to email her and ask that she get rid of the microphone guy in front of the student section at fb games. What's his name again? NOTHING infuriates me more than that guy at games."


Is he trying to lead cheers? Leave em alone.

7/18/2010 11:23:03 AM

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The operative word here is trying. Dude is terrible.

7/18/2010 11:35:08 AM

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It is really bad.

7/18/2010 11:59:02 AM

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Yeah, id have to agree for my season tickets last year my seats were under the huge scoreboard and I could hear the guy's off timed chants on our side, adn they were so iritating when your trying to follow a call or a review of instant replay on the big score board...the guy's just anoying.

Leave the cheering to the marching band folks, the NCSU student section, fans and alums, and the cheer leaders...no random "joe from the country" inspirational folks needed at home football or basketball games!

7/18/2010 12:24:22 PM

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"Leave the cheering to the marching band folks"


oh yeah, the band just has the best cheers ever

I agree with HOOPS MALONE

7/18/2010 2:29:33 PM

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that should be an indicator that you are in the wrong, sir.

7/18/2010 2:30:59 PM

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