The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
for work experiences......and will send them to other college classes.
http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/06/04/walmart-offering-college-credit-tuition-assistance-to-workers/ 7/7/2010 10:53:02 AM |
Snewf All American 63348 Posts user info edit post |
oh great my MA becomes even more meaningless
I guess its time to go back for the PhD 7/7/2010 10:57:12 AM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You can now earn college credit for working at Walmart. The retailer is launching a program to help defray the expenses of college courses and provide credit for on-the-job training.
Dubbed The Lifelong Learning Program, Walmart is partnering with American Public University to offer online classes toward earning a two- or four-year degree. APU is also offering credit for certain training programs and duties performed by Walmart associated that can be applied toward a degree.
"Up to 45% of an Associates or Bachelors degree could be earned from 'experiential learning'," Alicia Ledlie, senior director of the Lifelong Learning Program tells Walletpop. So experience with inventory management, workplace ethics and customer service would all count toward a management degree, she says. "(It) could cut almost two years off earning a Bachelors degree. There are already 200,000 people whose job learning has been evaluated for credit, and by 2012, we will have over one million. That's more than 70% of our workforce."
That's an eligibility number not actual enrollment numbers. So, in other words, roughly 70% of Walmart workers' duties could ultimately be eligible for college credit at APU.
Every Walmart and Sam's Club associate who enrolls in the program will also receive a grant from APU equal to a 15% tuition reduction. Walmart also plans to invest $50 million over the next three years in order to provide tuition assistance and other tools to help employees prepare for college-level work and complete their degrees.
The catch -- the employee must keep working for Walmart to qualify for financial assistance toward tuition, but once the work component has been evaluated and credited, those credits remain as long as that student continues with APU through the completion of their degree.
Is this indentured servitude or the cheapening of education? Ledlie thinks not. "It's really important to go back to the credibility of the school." APU currently does the same for the U.S. Military, evaluating training for college credit. While it's unusual for a private employer to embark on such a program, she says, Walmart's program is not the first of its kind.
APU is an online-only program, something Ledlie says Walmart employees preferred over a more traditional learning environment. A survery of more than 32,000 associates revealed that 72% wanted an online learning environment. This way, they can keep working while in school -- at Walmart.
Read more: http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/06/04/walmart-offering-college-credit-tuition-assistance-to-workers/#ixzz0t0axZ1RV " |
7/7/2010 10:58:16 AM |
wwwebsurfer All American 10217 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahahahahahahaahahaha
nice.
However, McDonalds has some of the most respected manager programs in the world - surely Walmart is right behind. Ok way behind. 7/7/2010 10:58:59 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
7/7/2010 10:59:21 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Somebody tell the college athletes that they can work as greeters and earn credit for that communications degree. 7/7/2010 11:24:28 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
yea and dont forget to tell potheads and flunkies as well
7/7/2010 11:29:34 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I was making a simple post, not a manifest of retards. 7/7/2010 11:30:34 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
you punks dont know what hard work is 7/7/2010 11:31:26 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
oh great my MA Target experience becomes even more meaningless 7/7/2010 11:34:36 AM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
^this....three and a half years with that company...no college credits or anything to show for it. Now they tell me some shithead from wal-mart can get credit for stacking boxes and shit. 7/7/2010 11:36:12 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I invented the rotary engine, you ass. 7/7/2010 11:37:10 AM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
^ Why don't you bitch about it some more? 7/7/2010 11:38:56 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
7/7/2010 11:39:41 AM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
^That's a 3 credit humanities class
but only at wal-mart
[Edited on July 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM. Reason : .] 7/7/2010 11:40:19 AM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
ts like putting twilight in a college english class 7/7/2010 11:56:06 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
I graduated from Walmart! Yay me!
7/7/2010 12:00:15 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
I graduated while having a job and paying for my own shit instead of living off daddy's money, yay me! 7/7/2010 12:01:07 PM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder if they are going to come up with a master's program. 7/7/2010 12:01:12 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
^ The best of the boxes program! 7/7/2010 12:04:36 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
It's not like American Public University is a real college. I mean they have a fucking stock ticker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Public_University_System
They are accredited, but looking further into the accrediting system, it seems that the accreditation system is flawed and has little oversight and inconsistent standards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_accreditation
As education becomes more and more corporate, I can see a lot of FUD in terms of legitimate degrees versus the store-bought diplomas from Big Education. My guess is that name recognition for universities will become even more important in the next several years. 7/7/2010 12:12:22 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
What the fuck is American Public University and are they accredited? I'm guessing not.
[Edited on July 7, 2010 at 12:13 PM. Reason : ^ ah well damn, there we go] 7/7/2010 12:13:34 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^^ National accreditation =/= Regional accreditation
[Edited on July 7, 2010 at 12:16 PM. Reason : Hmm. Looks like they have both. ] 7/7/2010 12:15:29 PM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
They have both sorts of accreditation...but they are the shittiest versions of accreditation available and they are not accredited in any sort of technical field. 7/7/2010 12:17:08 PM |
wwwebsurfer All American 10217 Posts user info edit post |
^this.
Nationally accreditation is a beast. We had to add 3 days to our school year just to meet it And of course everything was went over with a fine tooth comb - even our freaking newspaper was pillaged. 7/7/2010 12:17:32 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Many professional certification organizations, such as ISM, which issues the CPM/CPSM, will only accept bachelor's degrees from regionally accredited colleges.
Just FYI. 7/7/2010 12:21:50 PM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
Well, they aren't regionally accredited from anywhere except North-Central..... 7/7/2010 12:23:36 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
That counts, and I noted it above. 7/7/2010 12:27:13 PM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, I am all for helping people go to school who wouldn't normally be able to. I am not ok with giving people college credit for menial work at wal-mart. If you are going to do that then everyone who held a minimum wage job (a great deal of people who went to college fall into this category) should be receiving the same treatment. I am only glad at this point that they don't act like their guys operating the cart movers deserve credits towards and engineering degree. Well not yet anyways. 7/7/2010 12:39:34 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I guess this is where college transcripts will come into bigger play.
"Oh, this looks like a good candidate...let's see, 4.0, excellent...worked during college, great...relevant experience...ok, now transcript. Transfered 4 semesters from...Wal-Mart?" 7/7/2010 2:20:58 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Watch Out For Falling Prices Degrees! 7/7/2010 2:21:50 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
the way i see it, anything to get people on their feet that may need that second chance aint a bad thing
otherwise theyd just go on uneducated, i could careless about the watering down of your degree
education has been gettign watered down and watered down long before you shimmied out the womb. and like always someone will just have to work harder to gain equivalancy 7/7/2010 2:40:45 PM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
So you agree that it is a cheapening of the quality of education, but you still want it to be a "second chance?"
What good does it do to have this out there if people know that the degree earned was completed while working hourly at wal-mart? Not just while working there, but you literally used your work experience as credit in almost half of your degree.
You also see that the higher education system has been degraded for a long time as it is. You saying you just don't care if that continues? 7/7/2010 7:27:39 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
^
So yes, he does care.7/7/2010 7:30:22 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
does this mean that all UNC apparel that is bought at walmart comes with a UNC diploma? 7/7/2010 7:55:26 PM |
TJB627 All American 2110 Posts user info edit post |
Was this anybody else's first thought too?
Costco? Yeah, I got my degree in here! 7/7/2010 10:36:07 PM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
Welcome to Costco, I love you. 7/7/2010 10:44:37 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the way i see it, anything to get people on their feet that may need that second chance aint a bad thing
otherwise theyd just go on uneducated, i could careless about the watering down of your degree" |
they're not being educated, they are getting "college credit" just for doing what they already do or on-the-job training that they'd already get.7/8/2010 7:53:31 AM |
FroshKiller All American 51908 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i could careless" |
7/8/2010 8:02:19 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Its a way of letting those people get into college easier, but they certainly aren't going to come in with any relevant theoretical knowledge. I don't really see where the benefit of this comes from other than reducing the "sit down and learn" time it would take for a worker to get a degree. Yes, they're getting a degree and might get better opportunities (ala Target you need a college degree to get into management from what I've heard), but that specific degree loses its educational value.
I'm all for helping those stuck on the bottom rung a leg up, but I don't see this as a good way to do it in the long run. 7/8/2010 8:06:28 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i could careless" |
7/8/2010 8:08:48 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
why do you assume that an alternative means of getting less priviledged people into school will lead to them pissing it all away?
you dont think theyll take advantage of the opportunity?? all the fuckin flunkies i know are spoiled rich brats that have been through nothing in life and think college sucks so they dont wanna go anymore
plus its not hard to earn good grades by being up under the professor's ass everyday tryna change a B to an A, dont act like that isnt what college is about 7/8/2010 11:39:32 AM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
You must not be from a small town then. All the fucking flunkies I know are pieces of shit that pissed away the meager opportunities that they had. The public school system around here might not be that great but it provided opportunities for even the most meager asshole who wanted to try just a little bit. All they had to do was put forth a little effort and they could get somewhere in the UNC system or otherwise. 7/8/2010 11:43:38 AM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "best friend chicken" |
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.7/8/2010 12:12:46 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
bachelors degree is the new high school diploma 7/8/2010 12:17:59 PM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
i see that you got yours in science
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 7/8/2010 12:18:41 PM |
Fareako Shitter Pilot 10238 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Was this anybody else's first thought too?
Costco? Yeah, I got my degree in here!" |
I was so about to post this. Luckily, I used my Wal-Mart degree and read the whole thread before arbitrarily doing so.7/8/2010 12:21:29 PM |