BubbleBobble :3 114242 Posts user info edit post |
what are they?
I think it's pretty silly, seeing as most of them were born in America huh
LOL
LOL
LOL African-American 7/23/2010 6:52:41 PM |
bassman803 All American 16965 Posts user info edit post |
i prefer the term Mister, or Sir 7/23/2010 6:57:01 PM |
BubbleBobble :3 114242 Posts user info edit post |
you don't count as an African-American
you have white person hair or something 7/23/2010 6:57:35 PM |
BubbleBobble :3 114242 Posts user info edit post |
I should have saved this thread for a "Ask ________ Anything" thread 7/23/2010 6:59:56 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51908 Posts user info edit post |
A co-worker at my last job would nervously settle on "African-American" when casting about for a synonym for black. I enjoyed interrupting him to ask, "What part of Africa is he from?" 7/23/2010 7:02:03 PM |
BubbleBobble :3 114242 Posts user info edit post |
lolololol 7/23/2010 7:02:43 PM |
bassman803 All American 16965 Posts user info edit post |
ha
yes, because all 'white' people have the same kinda hair. and all 'black' people have the same kind as well.
both my parents are black, but we've never been to Africa. i guess American would be the most correct term. 7/23/2010 7:03:42 PM |
BubbleBobble :3 114242 Posts user info edit post |
I was born in Nigeria 7/23/2010 7:07:13 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
I was born 7/23/2010 7:07:54 PM |
BubbleBobble :3 114242 Posts user info edit post |
merbig-American 7/23/2010 7:08:22 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i was under the impression it was more of an unusual growth thing 7/23/2010 7:10:09 PM |
BubbleBobble :3 114242 Posts user info edit post |
7/23/2010 7:22:37 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42535 Posts user info edit post |
What would be the equivalent term for black people in the UK?
African-English? (or -Scottish, -Irish, -Welsh) African-British?
And to take it to an extreme, if an African settles in say, China, has children there with his African wife, and the kids are granted citizenship, how should the children be referenced?
Chinese? African? African-Chinese? Black? Black Chinese? 7/23/2010 8:16:08 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "One Tribe, one time, one planet, one race Its all one blood, don't care about your face The color of your eye or the tone of your skin Don't care where ya are Don't care where ya been Cause where we gonna go Is where we wanna be The place where the little language is unity And the continent is called Pangaea And the main ideas are connected like a spear No propaganda, They tried to upper hand us Cause man I'm loving this peace Man, man, I'm loving this peace Man, man, I'm loving this peace I don't need no leader That's gonna force feed a Concept that make me think I need to Fear my brother and fear my sister And shoot my neighbor or my big missile " |
-7/23/2010 8:18:57 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I mean it doesn't bother me. I don't fly off into a crazed anti-PC rant about reverse racism and american oversensitivity every time I hear it like some people.
But I don't use it myself. 7/23/2010 8:23:28 PM |
Kickstand All American 11544 Posts user info edit post |
I have a good black friend who would rather just prefer to be called black. He agrees that most black people in the U.S. were not born in Africa.
Quote : | "I was born in Nigeria " |
PM me for my bank account # if you have funds to store in an American bank. I'll see what we can do.7/23/2010 8:39:54 PM |
wwwebsurfer All American 10217 Posts user info edit post |
I just call 'em black. They call me white. I call asian people mid-toned.
It's just a color people, get up off it. Unless you're willing to michael jackson you're stuck that way. Get a tan and shut up. 7/23/2010 8:47:48 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
^ +1 7/23/2010 8:55:29 PM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck that. I am a fucking american.
not only were my ancestors already here when your bitch ancestors couldn't manage to grow fucking potatoes and swarmed in totally univited but if i go to africa then im an american just like any one of you. Dont fool yourselves
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 7/23/2010 8:58:02 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
I actually like the hyphenated terms, because they remind (the majority of) us that our indigenous ancestry was not in America; it's too sad that "European-American" is mostly used by white supremacists like David Duke
but those terms are only appropriate in America; elsewhere terms like "black" or "African" are more appropriate
[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM. Reason : IIRC in the UK it's commonly "Black British" 7/23/2010 9:24:48 PM |
BubbleBobble :3 114242 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder why I asked about this
cause I really don't give a fuck 7/23/2010 9:25:27 PM |
ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have a good black friend who would rather just prefer to be called black. He agrees that most black people in the U.S. were not born in Africa." |
Conversely, those african-born white people REALLY go and fuck shit up.]7/23/2010 9:29:48 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Careful now, you are starting to sound like Limp Bizkit.
[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 9:30 PM. Reason : ^.] 7/23/2010 9:29:50 PM |
BubbleBobble :3 114242 Posts user info edit post |
limp triscuit amirite 7/23/2010 9:40:48 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
Now I is hungry
All I've had today is a bowl of pasta, a yogurt cup, two corndogs, half a glass of juice, a couple pieces of cantaloupe, and a bagel with cream cheese.
Mmm.. triscuits...
[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 9:42 PM. Reason : .] 7/23/2010 9:42:08 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148250 Posts user info edit post |
you know what? 7/23/2010 9:49:21 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
I've pretty much stopped saying it after watching the ralphie may stand up talking about it, he made a lot of sense, why don't you call white people european americans then, plus if you actually have a dude from africa like my friend in high school then it just confuses things, and usually whenever a white guy uses the term african american he's making some stupid overly pc statement
just plain black folks are fine with me 7/23/2010 10:29:57 PM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
7/23/2010 10:40:27 PM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
ibtGod 7/23/2010 10:43:28 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
^^^as I said, "European-American" is popular only among white supremacists, and that's a damn shame
like David Duke's European-American Unity and Rights Organization (EURO), formerly known as N.O.F.E.A.R. (National Organization For European American Rights): http://www.whitecivilrights.com/ 7/23/2010 11:16:08 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Embed please: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYT9Ul1I4ow 7/23/2010 11:23:04 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
Hey God, where is that picture of the noose you used to post all the time? 7/23/2010 11:29:56 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about, and I know you're just trying to troll me. I never posted anything like that.
[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 11:53 PM. Reason : ] 7/23/2010 11:33:40 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43402 Posts user info edit post |
I call black people black people.
"ooooooooooh" 7/23/2010 11:38:18 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
doo DOO doo doo 7/23/2010 11:38:40 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American#The_term_.22African_American.22
Quote : | "The term African American carries important political overtones. Earlier terms used to identify Americans of African ancestry were conferred upon the group by colonists and Americans of European ancestry. The terms were included in the wording of various laws and legal decisions which some thought were being used as tools of white supremacy and oppression.[129] There developed among blacks in America a growing desire for a term of self-identification of their own choosing.
...
In the 1980s the term African American was advanced on the model of, for example, German-American or Irish-American to give descendants of American slaves and other American blacks who lived through the slavery-era a heritage and a cultural base.[129] The term was popularized in black communities around the country via word of mouth and ultimately received mainstream use after Jesse Jackson publicly used the term in front of a national audience, subsequently major media outlets adopted its use.[129]
Many blacks in America expressed a preference for the term, as it was formed in the same way as names for others of the many ethnic groups in the nation. Some argued further that, because of the historical circumstances surrounding the capture, enslavement and systematic attempts to de-Africanize blacks in the United States under chattel slavery, most African Americans are unable to trace their ancestry to a specific African nation; hence, the entire continent serves as a geographic marker.
For many, African American is more than a name expressive of cultural and historical roots. The term expresses pride in Africa and a sense of kinship and solidarity with others of the African diaspora—an embrace of pan-Africanism as earlier enunciated by prominent African thinkers such as Marcus Garvey, W. E. B. Du Bois and George Padmore." |
7/23/2010 11:43:59 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
well, here's the president's take
Quote : | "There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else." |
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9901E0DD1239E333A25750C1A9669D946496D6CF
[Edited on July 30, 2010 at 5:18 AM. Reason : first quote from wiki...link from NY Times article of that year]7/30/2010 5:14:45 AM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
^ I disagree. The awesome thing about America is that you don't have to give up your old nationality when you get here. America is united by an idea, not an ethnicity or nationality. That's why we're doing better with immigration than Europe.
I think America would be diminished if we never had any Greek festivals or we canceled the Highland Games or the various Chinatowns went away. Being proud of where you came from is not mutually exclusive with being proud of where you are. 7/30/2010 6:56:09 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
African-American is the most abused and over used ethnic description. Just as with any hyphenated classification, it means they immigrated to here, thus not being a naturalized citizen. We are united by the idea, not the ethnicity, and the idea is that we are all Americans who don't need to segregate ourselves into sub populations/nationalities.
So, just as ^^ posted.
And to me, this is a grammar/language issue not a political/ethnic one. Nothing asks you to give up or forget your heritage; however, for clear and proper communication, we should use words that best describe things, thus African-American would describe an African person who became a citizen of the U.S. Look at any other nationality/ethnicity... most, if not, all consider themselves Americans with xxxxx heritage. 7/30/2010 9:11:13 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i consider myself a white cracker 7/30/2010 9:13:23 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^honky 7/30/2010 9:52:41 AM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^
Quote : | "this is a grammar/language issue not a political/ethnic one. Nothing asks you to give up or forget your heritage" |
7/30/2010 9:54:52 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
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hahahhahah7/30/2010 10:01:00 AM |
SymeGuy69 All American 11036 Posts user info edit post |
Black. It's descriptive. It's visual.
You're not making an assumption about where they came from and where they live. 7/30/2010 10:24:39 AM |
LeonIsPro All American 5021 Posts user info edit post |
7/30/2010 10:27:52 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
so some of those damned indians you see should be called blacks too cuz them motherfuckers look like they got skimmed up of the surface of the gulf of mexico 7/30/2010 10:34:39 AM |
Big4Country All American 11907 Posts user info edit post |
Don't use the term, if you are white, from Africa, and a naturalized US citizen.
http://www.1010wins.com/Ex-Student-Says-NJ-Medical-School-Discriminated/4374417
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36764
[Edited on July 30, 2010 at 3:31 PM. Reason : .] 7/30/2010 3:30:32 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
who asked you anyhow, creeper?
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7/30/2010 3:37:45 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6585 Posts user info edit post |
I distinctly remember in High School our civics teacher giving some lame lecture where he repeatedly used "african-american." at some point this black chick raised her hand and said "umm, can you just call us 'black folks'"
I've been doing just that ever since 7/30/2010 3:49:50 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
then again, some black bitch game to the DJ at the bar i work at and was like "Me and my group...we are black so...can you play...you know...some black music"
he was playin the blues.
so basically that bitch raisin her hand dont mean shit cuz black people as a whole are fuckin retarded nowadays anyway 7/30/2010 3:58:19 PM |