i just cant get over how ridiculously easily accessible everyone is on facebook, it just doesnt feel right
everyone is all up in everyones business, i wish i stayed at myspace

8/1/2010 1:07:46 PM

i bet people felt like this when phonebooks were invented

"you mean you can just call anyone? i don't know, i don't want MY personal information in there"

8/1/2010 1:09:13 PM

tdub wishes you stayed at myspace too

8/1/2010 1:09:28 PM

myspace was much better organized, now every breath someone i know takes is like all up in my nostrils
i dont want that much info about everybody i ever knew

8/1/2010 1:14:25 PM

TROLLOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

8/1/2010 1:15:02 PM

I agree lafta.

8/1/2010 1:15:55 PM

I like myspace more just because you can decorate your page. They are both the same thing. Somewhere along the way adults started to think myspace was for teenagers and facebook was for an older crowd. Most people I know that are under age 18 only have facebook now.

8/1/2010 1:21:20 PM

8/1/2010 1:22:23 PM

for some reason it doesn't surprise me that big4country prefers myspace. he just screams, that type.

8/1/2010 1:23:26 PM

myspace is gay. doesn't fox own myspace now? whenever the media or public gets ahold of anything, they dissect the fun out of it. on top of that, myspace has had multiple makeovers to make it closer to facebook

[Edited on August 1, 2010 at 1:25 PM. Reason : .]

8/1/2010 1:24:38 PM

haha i wonder how long big4country spend trying to make his latest collage the background for his facebook page before he gave up and moved to myspace

8/1/2010 1:26:00 PM

Quote :

"doesn't fox own myspace now?"

rupert murdock, who also owns fox, bought it a few years ago

8/1/2010 1:26:42 PM

Quote :

"rupert murdock, who also owns fox, bought it a few years ago"

well in that case screw myspace, i need a new alternative
perhaps if TWW had a makeover with personalized homepages, and you could poke people

8/1/2010 1:29:36 PM

lafta is a friendster kind of girl

8/1/2010 1:32:35 PM

Quote :

"haha i wonder how long big4country spend trying to make his latest collage the background for his facebook page before he gave up and moved to myspace"

I actually have a picture of a bald eagle with an American flag covering its face.

8/1/2010 1:33:19 PM

Unfortunately, communication travels too fast and IF by chance any website blew up because it was SO cool, it would immediately be lame again because of the publicity and news of it will get out. Just like myspace and facebook...Someone will get raped. Someone will use it to commit murder. The police will use it as a tool to find criminals. etc etc etc. fuck the real world.

8/1/2010 1:33:28 PM

How did that $5 thing turn out?

Anyone?

8/1/2010 1:33:28 PM

^^ who knew gxb understood hipstadynamics

8/1/2010 1:34:24 PM

Who knew people still used myspace?

8/1/2010 1:38:16 PM

MySpace just underwent a major redesign - pretty sure they're getting rid of the custom profiles.

8/1/2010 1:38:20 PM

hey guys remember hotornot?

8/1/2010 1:40:40 PM

hey guys remember cassette tapes?

8/1/2010 1:41:12 PM

Quote :

"Most visited Websites in USA 1 Google google.com 2 Facebook facebook.com . . . . 13 Myspace myspace.com Social Networking Site. "

this is still a major website but now that i know rupert murdock owns it i hope it fails

8/1/2010 1:42:17 PM

8/1/2010 1:42:45 PM

cassettes are actually making a comeback as a way to put out records cheaply and still give the customer a physical product when they really just want a download card

a band will sell 200 tapes at $3 a piece and make $2.80 profit on each one (not including recording costs), whereas at $6 a piece to make $2.80 profit on a CD, they'll sell less than 100

8/1/2010 1:43:29 PM

8/1/2010 1:45:39 PM

Quote :

"for some reason it doesn't surprise me that big4country prefers myspace. he just screams, that type."

8/1/2010 1:57:20 PM

^^^ don't be ridiculous. just another ironic hipster trend.

[Edited on August 1, 2010 at 1:59 PM. Reason : s]

8/1/2010 1:58:18 PM

troll if you like, but i'm going to explain this in plain economics because i feel like it

you can have four color cased cassette EPs made for 20 cents each if you order a thousand

the same thing as a CD costs at least $1.35 for a thousand

people are far more likely to grab something from your merch table if it's $3-4 versus $7-8

that's why so many bands opt for a series of singles instead of initially producing a full album these days

when you make singles, you have something brand new to sell every four months, and it's only $4

as opposed to having the same record at every show for two years and it costs $12

8/1/2010 2:05:14 PM

I like all my redneck friends who refuse to fill out a census because they don't want the government to know all their 'private information' but have public facebook profiles with their address, phone number and employer.



then they bitch when taxes get raised

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

8/1/2010 2:09:26 PM

Makes sense, but are cassette players prevalent enough these days to make that a worthwhile venture? Or even available to buy if someone wanted to get in on this trend?

I heard someone recently say they tried to buy a cassette player for their dad, but they went to Best Buy and the teenage clerks didn't even know what it was. An older employee looked it up in the computer and found a dust covered box all the way in the corner of the store, which was the last one they had. Still $34 dollars too

8/1/2010 2:10:19 PM

the medium isn't really the point, because most people won't listen to the cassette anyway, just use the download card and listen to the MP3s

part of the vinyl comeback is that people use their ipods in their cars or when they're running. the only good thing about a CD, the portability, is no longer important when you can listen to vinyl at home and MP3s when you're out

tapes are cheaper to produce than CDs or vinyl, but a lot of people want something to buy and hold, even if it's just a cassette

so basically you're selling them a download, but in the form of a cassette

of course, the cassette is still playable and they sound much better these days than they used to, but the idea is to get a professional-looking physical product with the highest profit margin for the band

also, the beautiful thing about cassettes is that if you want to listen to them, you go to goodwill and get a tape deck for $3. they're in that technology gap where people have thrown out tape decks that are 100% functional because "i'll never use it again"

8/1/2010 2:14:10 PM

Ah, that's pretty cool. I didn't know how people distributed music these days, I thought it was still through CDs that you rip onto your hard drive.

and then online for bigger bands or something

[Edited on August 1, 2010 at 2:17 PM. Reason : lkj]

8/1/2010 2:17:18 PM

what about just a CD jewel case with a download card in it? or something resembling a CD case, but different enough so that people aren't confused when there's not an actual CD in it

for example, the cover art and lyric sheets that used to come in CDs. if it were just one of those, but shrink-wrapped with a download card in it, you wouldn't have to pay for any actual cassette or a CD, just some printing costs, would still distribute something physical for people to buy on the spot, and you know how people fawn over album cover art, so for that to be the actual physical thing you get is really the most valuable physical object you might want anyways



[Edited on August 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM. Reason : hey look at me, i'm an armchair music industry exec!]

8/1/2010 2:17:50 PM

The artwork costs much more to produce than the CD does. Think about a spindle of CD-Rs...you buy enough and they cost almost nothing. The other problem with a jewel case is that it's three separate pieces, which ups the manufacturing cost. A good cassette digipak is one molded piece of plastic.

Also, CD is a terrible form factor for album art, because it's got the proportions of an album but not the proper canvas size. Cassettes inserts, being so elongated, aren't really made for album-style artwork and so you can do cool/weird things with them you wouldn't try on a 5x5 or 12x12 cover.

As an example of how record sales work with smaller bands these days, I worked the merch table at the last Future Islands show. I sold 22 pieces of vinyl and 1 CD. The only reason I sold the CD was because the LP version of that particular record is limited edition and is $15, whereas the CD is just a disc in an envelope and is $5.

CD is mostly dead, because it offers none of the advantages of vinyl and none of the advantages of MP3, and when you go to the record store you can buy vinyl/MP3 together for a price that's $2 more than a CD.

8/1/2010 2:26:20 PM

So why not sell posters of the album art, which are infinitely cheaper to mass produce, and attach a download card?


People rip CDs to their computers, or they use the download card.

They can't do shit with a cassette, and your average Maroon 5/Limp Bizkit/O.A.R./Whatever fan isn't gonna go down to the SWAP SHOP and buy a damn cassette player.


People toss cassettes because regardless of their player's "technology gap availability," most artists aren't going to bother with trying to revive a dead medium. All "reviving" them does is create tons more waste.


If your argument is the cost of the art associated with any release driving up the cost of the item sold, then the OBVIOUS thing to do is to sell the art and take on a small premium for the music.

8/1/2010 2:40:32 PM

If your objective is to get your music out there, you need to give your songs away to as many people as possible.

If your object is to make money, you can sell merchandise.

8/1/2010 2:43:52 PM

Quote :

" still give the customer a physical product"

I'd be curious what percentage of the market is wanting this. I know that I only buy CDs now to rip them and keep digital copies - I haven't used an actual CD in ages and prefer it that way.

I can see other people who are more into music wanting to touch and feel and read it, as long as listening to it as well - but I doubt thats a large percentage of everyone out there.

8/1/2010 2:44:05 PM

You've all got it wrong.
8-tracks, man. 8-tracks!

But seriously, CD's are dead. It's just too easy to download the music and get your instant gratification. The two problems to me is, mp3's are compressed and don't have the sonic bandwidth of CDs, or records and the other being there is no artwork except for that little pic on my itouch.
I wish there was some way that you could get a PDF or something with the liner notes which sometimes includes lyrics.

I also wonder how it affects the artists. I mean let's say eric clapton puts out a new release. hooray for him, but all of the artists that made up his band or contributed to the project, including the engineer go completely uncredited.

8/1/2010 2:44:09 PM

tanked my facebook account years ago. Created a new one to test facebook connect for our websites. Logged in for the first time in 3 months to ~20 friend requests.


....ignored every one of them

8/1/2010 2:45:34 PM

8/1/2010 2:47:10 PM

Quote :

"They can't do shit with a cassette, and your average Maroon 5/Limp Bizkit/O.A.R./Whatever fan isn't gonna go down to the SWAP SHOP and buy a damn cassette player."

Obviously someone who listens to those bands isn't going to be included in this discussion in the first place. I'm talking about music fans, people who buy multiple records per week and see at least a half dozen shows per month.

The thing about just producing the art is that a record is not just the art, it's the artifact itself. The tape/record/CD is part of the package, and has intrinsic aesthetic value beyond the music that's on it. I just got a tape by a Richmond band called Invisible Hand, and the tape is green and has a neat inscription on it. Every Factory Records 12" has "A PORKY PRIME CUT" etched inside the runout groove. You don't get that with a poster.

Also, you can't put 600 posters on a bookshelf and have them all indexed, visible, and at the ready.

I realize that I'm talking about a niche market here, but it's a bigger niche than someone who buys their CDs at Best Buy might realize.

8/1/2010 2:48:06 PM

It's still contributing to waste though, is what i'm saying.



What's even more ironic is the niche market you're speaking specifically of also contains a group of people up in arms over the BP Oil spill (nice to see that oil spills only matter if they're in your country).
You'd think that these people would realize they are contributing to the very demon they oppose by allowing the bands they like to sell them plastic cassette tapes that they wont listen to and will eventually throw away, made from petro products provided by a company that they wholeheartedly and vehemently oppose.



At least you can recycle a poster when it gets down to it. How many people do you know that will recycle a cassette?



If I like a band's album art, I will buy the poster/canvas/whatever. If I don't, I can still get the thing I wanted by buying the poster with attached download card and recycling/giving away the poster.

8/1/2010 2:57:48 PM

I know you realize you're generalizing, but I don't give a shit about waste. I'm talking about making money.

The group of people I'm talking about like buying and owning records, and no one who's that militant about BP is buying them anyway, so I don't think there's nearly as much overlap in the groups as you're implying.

Aside from a few that I've sold to collectors or given away as gifts, I still have every CD/tape/record I've ever bought, and I know that's the case for many of the people I'm talking about. In that case, there are no recycling issues, although I'm sure at this point cassettes are made from recyclable plastic anyway.

8/1/2010 3:05:49 PM

If they are recommending themselves... that just seems odd.


[Edited on August 1, 2010 at 7:35 PM. Reason : yay premie]

8/1/2010 7:35:39 PM

i still buy CD's, but i use them almost exclusively in my truck's stereo. i have a few gigs worth of music on my memory card in my phone/mp3 player, but that stuff is mostly just downloaded (legally)

8/1/2010 7:43:29 PM

first, i'm bumping a lafta thread, i know. bad girl. but this FB thread had the most relevant title. and i didn't feel like searching through all of them for a better one SO

are people like this even real:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001539495902

and how the fuck do they find me? and what the hell does "dp" mean because dude friended me and sent me a message saying he loved my "dp"

IS THIS ONE OF YOU PEOPLE. it probably is

but still i get these rando friend requests allllll the time. i get the ones that are trying to spread their pyramid schemes and spam all the time, too. but these completely random requests just seem super strange/creepy/odd/no likey.

8/31/2010 12:27:14 PM

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8/31/2010 12:28:42 PM

8/31/2010 12:29:49 PM

he lieks ur pix

8/31/2010 12:30:59 PM