[b]Trey Holland is a thief and a liar!!

My name is Mr. Joshua. I post on The Wolf Web (http://www.thewolfweb.com).

I am a leather crafter from the west coast who had a booth at the 2009 Carolina Renaissance Faire near Charlotte NC.

Trey Holland came into my booth with his girlfriend and bought almost $300 worth of stuff from me and used a credit card. When I ran his card that night, it bounced.

When I called him he claimed it was a bank error. Days went by and he wouldn't get it cleared up. When I threatened legal action and criminal charges, he said he'd send us the money via Paypal with his mother's credit card. All went fine and we got our money. 2 days after we left town he (or possibly his MOTHER) filed a reversal with Paypal and Paypal yanked the money back out of our account.

He now claims he knows nothing about the reversal but still refuses to make good on the $300 worth of hand-made leather he STOLE from us.

I'll be offering a cash reward for information to his current whereabouts.
You can reach me through the website listed above.

I will be posting this information on every web site I can find for the rest of my life.

THIS THIEF BELONGS IN JAIL!!!

8/17/2010 2:45:12 PM

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8/17/2010 2:46:37 PM

I heard he is in outside sales, which I am not.

8/17/2010 3:00:30 PM

I heard he had a weird moustache that like seperated and then cam eback together.

8/17/2010 3:11:55 PM

come on guys

we're in our 20's

8/17/2010 3:12:48 PM

I heard he burned down the atrium

8/17/2010 3:13:30 PM

I heard he owed FroshKiller $5

8/17/2010 3:14:36 PM

This fucker pied Gary. GARY!

8/17/2010 3:55:58 PM

Trey Holland should officially consider himself called out, he is a faggot.

8/17/2010 3:57:54 PM

Registrant:
   Trey Holland
   813 Spring Run Rd
   Winterville, North Carolina 28590
   United States

   Domain Name: WOLFWALL.COM
      Created on: 27-May-09
      Expires on: 27-May-11
      Last Updated on: 28-May-10

   Administrative Contact:
      Holland, Trey  
      813 Spring Run Rd
      Winterville, North Carolina 28590
      United States
      +1.2521234567      Fax -- 

   Technical Contact:
      Holland, Trey  
      813 Spring Run Rd
      Winterville, North Carolina 28590
      United States
      +1.2521234567      Fax -- 

   Domain servers in listed order:
      NS1.LINODE.COM
      NS2.LINODE.COM
      NS3.LINODE.COM
      NS4.LINODE.COM

8/17/2010 4:00:07 PM

come on guys

we're in our 20's

8/17/2010 7:40:29 PM

I realize this thread is about wolfwall admins and users.... which I am not. Hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.

I am in outside sales, which is currently salary+commission, but will move into straight commission starting at the beginning of July 2010. I have been in this position since July 2009. I have competition from several direct manufacturing sales reps, large distributors, and local distributors. Here are the advantages and disadvantages of each:

Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture.

Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.

Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.

Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)

Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.

Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.

This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: I go after the big accounts right now while I am new. The big accounts, if I land them, will take care of me while I am new and building a customer base. The money made off of those allows me to focus free time on smaller accounts that get me higher margins. I build up big accounts, I would like to have 5-10 of these, then get 20-30 medium accounts. If I lose 1 or 2 big accounts, the 20-30 medium accounts keep me afloat while I go after new big accounts. I don't really waste time on small accounts simply because they basically pay for breakfast or something really small.

I will say this, if you can't get a big account in the first 6-8 months (assuming you have cash flow that you can ride this long) you could be in a world of trouble. If you can get one, it will really make going after the others a lot more enjoyable and less stressful. It's simply just very exhausting wasting any time on anything other than big accounts in the very beginning. You work just as hard on the medium sized accounts and see 1/3 to 1/36 of the money in my situation.

If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest!

8/17/2010 7:44:29 PM

this thread is the last link on the page after googling "Trey Holland"

8/18/2010 3:11:03 PM

He sent the Dell dude to prison.

Also, he lied about being a thief.

8/18/2010 3:12:03 PM

lol I'm about 8 miles from Spring Run Road. I wonder if it's his parent's crib.

8/18/2010 3:18:30 PM

for reference: message_topic.aspx?topic=600540

8/18/2010 3:19:11 PM

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[Edited on August 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM. Reason : FUCK]

8/18/2010 4:27:57 PM

iswydt

8/18/2010 4:32:38 PM

i heard Trey Holland mutilates small puppies

8/18/2010 7:19:13 PM

Quote :

"OUTSIDE SALES ATTACK"

8/18/2010 7:20:08 PM

Trey Holland set the atrium on fire with the dell dude

8/18/2010 8:33:53 PM

I heard he bit a hookers tongue off with a slap chop and then cleaned up the mess with a shamwow

8/18/2010 8:37:11 PM

8/18/2010 8:41:40 PM

not sure you got the theme dood

8/18/2010 8:42:51 PM

I heard Trey Holland hacked the NCSU police blotter and posted fake incident reports.

8/18/2010 8:45:52 PM

I also heard he started Bring'em Young Daycare ....a few winters ago

8/18/2010 8:58:18 PM

Give me any odds of what you think Trey Holland existing is.

Let's do something large.

Let's do something like....

"There's a 1 out of 1x10^10 chance."

That means there's a one in ten billion chance of aliens existing.

Is that not rare enough for you? Okay. Let's do 1 out of 1x10^15. That's a one in one quadrillion chance.

Based on observations from the Hubble Space Telescope, there are at least 125 billion galaxies in the universe.

It is estimated that at least ten percent of all sun-like stars have a system of planets, there are 6.25×10^18 stars with planets orbiting them in the universe.

If even a billionth of these stars have planets supporting life, there are some 6.25×10^9 (billion) life-supporting planetary systems in the universe.

6,250,000,000.

Now, what are the odds that NONE of these have any life on them?

8/18/2010 9:09:13 PM

Trey Holland was arraigned Tuesday on grand larceny charges. The salesman said he tried to tell officials at Commerce Bank in December that he did not have a $5 million account.

Holland said he was told it was his and he could withdraw the money.

Prosecutors said the bank -- which advertises itself as America's Most Convenient Bank -- confused Holland with a Trey Holland who works for a property management company.

The lesser-funded Holland gave away some of the withdrawn money and blew some of it on gifts, but lost much of it on bad investments, prosecutors said.

8/18/2010 9:19:58 PM

I heard they are opening a "Trey Holland" on western where the old Krispy Kreme use to be...or something like that

8/18/2010 9:37:42 PM

So if Trey Holland takes off from a treadmill, will he take off?

8/18/2010 9:43:44 PM

Quote :

"Trey Holland was arraigned Tuesday on grand larceny charges. The salesman said he tried to tell officials at Commerce Bank in December that he did not have a $5 million account. Holland said he was told it was his and he could withdraw the money. Prosecutors said the bank -- which advertises itself as America's Most Convenient Bank -- confused Holland with a Trey Holland who works for a property management company. The lesser-funded Holland gave away some of the withdrawn money and blew some of it on gifts, but lost much of it on bad investments, prosecutors said."

My fave.

[Edited on August 18, 2010 at 9:46 PM. Reason : 0]

8/18/2010 9:45:31 PM

mine too

8/19/2010 8:32:54 AM

like...we start jumping and then along with it go "treeeeeeeeeeeeeey" and get louder like "TREEEEEEEEEEEEY" and then switch to "HOLLAND! HOLLAND! HOLLAND! HOLLAND! TREEEEEEY HOLLAND! HOLLAND! HOLLAND! HOLLAND! TREY! POWER HOLLAND! POWER HOLLAND! WOLFWALL!" and then play a loud rockin rap song or somethin. i think it would get things crazy.

8/19/2010 9:08:51 AM

I blame cheese.

8/20/2010 12:22:22 PM

Quote :

"So if Trey Holland takes off from a treadmill, will he take off?"

No, but his girlfriend will.

8/20/2010 12:27:15 PM