http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaQBrTROj2w

This song makes me want to buy a used car.

8/27/2010 11:55:22 AM

it really sounds like it's matt stone and trey parker singing.

8/27/2010 11:57:00 AM

yes it does

plz embed?

8/27/2010 11:58:20 AM

Lmao this song is terrible.

8/27/2010 11:59:01 AM

I feel like there's a subliminal message they're trying to get across, but I can't quite put my finger on it

8/27/2010 12:01:17 PM

the pastor who organized International Burn A Koran Day scares the shit out of me

8/27/2010 12:04:21 PM

He doesn't scare me, the fact that there are hundreds more just like him is what scares me.

He is going to send a "clear message" to Islam....oh wait...he is going to send a cloudy message to fucking everybody...

8/27/2010 12:11:42 PM

Quote :

"I feel like there's a subliminal message they're trying to get across, but I can't quite put my finger on it"

8/27/2010 12:12:51 PM

there's a great tradition of peaceful and ethical leaders using book burning as motivational tools for their followers and to forward their agenda

right?

8/27/2010 12:38:19 PM

99.999999% of the time they have been anyways

8/27/2010 12:47:21 PM

Just another fine example of American Hypocrisy.

Freedom of expression and freedom of religion, as long as it is the majorities religion and expression.

8/27/2010 12:53:10 PM

Quote :

"A majority of Americans don't think that building the mosque near Ground Zero is appropriate--but they support the developers' right to build it!"

- hooksaw

Quote :

"i too am encouraged that a 2/3 majority at least recognizes they have the right to build that mosque."

- joe_schmoe

I actually agree with hooksaw and Joe Schmoe on this one. I see no hypocrisy here. Many Americans feel that this is tasteless, yet the majority support their right to do it. You can't force them to like it. Putting the most ignorant in the spotlight does not change the facts.

[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 1:04 PM. Reason : l]

8/27/2010 1:02:56 PM

I don't see how it's not appropriate. This is America. This is the definition of appropriate for America to let someone practice a religion as long as they don't commit illegal acts.

Even the KKK can hold rallies.

8/27/2010 1:21:41 PM

More like WE GOTTA STOP THIS GUY FROM MAKING ANY MORE MUSIC.

amirite?

8/27/2010 1:28:54 PM

lol look at the like/dislike ratio.

8/27/2010 1:29:05 PM

The mosque at Ground Zero is neither a mosque nor at Ground Zero! Talk amongst yourselves!

8/27/2010 1:32:46 PM

The Mosque tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck errrrrrrrrr jooooooooooooooooobs!

8/27/2010 1:34:37 PM

double caret lol

[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 1:37 PM. Reason : wrong carat carrot]

8/27/2010 1:36:05 PM

lmfao wtf

8/27/2010 1:39:23 PM

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"I don't see how it's not appropriate. This is America. This is the definition of appropriate for America to let someone practice a religion as long as they don't commit illegal acts. Even the KKK can hold rallies."

Yes, it's the American right to do such things. It is also the American right to disagree with these things. Majority of folks who see the KKK will be disgusted by what they are preaching. But the fact remains, both parties are allowed their opinion. The mosque is no different. I totally agree with the fact that they have the right to build that there. But I also have the right to think that it is kinda in bad taste when there are other places they could build it further away from ground zero. Do I think anyone should step in and say they can't build? Hell no. Do I think people have the right to voice their opinion that it will upset lots of non-Muslim Americans? Hell yes

8/27/2010 1:44:14 PM

Quote :

"More like WE GOTTA STOP THIS GUY FROM MAKING ANY MORE MUSIC. amirite?"

U RITE

8/27/2010 2:33:29 PM

Quote :

"Do I think anyone should step in and say they can't build? Hell no. Do I think people have the right to voice their opinion that it will upset lots of non-Muslim Americans? Hell yes"

unfortunately, americans conservatives are a bunch of douchebags and it will quite likely go farther than just "voicing their opinions"

8/27/2010 2:41:56 PM

Quote :

"and it will quite likely already has gone farther than just "voicing their opinions""

fyp


attempted murder of the muslim cabbie

8/27/2010 2:48:35 PM

those opposing the build of this community center hate America and SHOULD GIT OUT IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT

8/27/2010 2:50:15 PM

IMO this is just like if people protested a Lutheran church being built near a sight where some southern baptists crazies executed a bunch of gay people.

But see, that would never happen here in America because we think Christianity is the only right thing. I mean I see nothing wrong with a mosque at ground zero. The people who want it are not the people who flew into the buildings. Hell, one of the guys that is helping fund is also owns part of Fox News.

I think that people just need to stfu and really be concerned with more important things in our country.

Also, I am so fucking sick and tired of hearing people saying that they are afraid muslims are going to take over the world. I am so fucking sick of hearing women say that they will never be forced to wear a head covering. Don't be an idiot, as long as our country has this government no one will EVER be forced to wear a head covering unless they are in a religion that requires it of them. I mean gah, stop being so fucking stupid people.

Just sucks that too many people at my work think like that, people who are above me, so me telling them that they are stupid would not help me out.

8/27/2010 2:52:20 PM

you should start wearing shalwar kameez to work!

tell them that Obama FORCED you to wear it to be eligible for healthcare / student loan forgiveness

8/27/2010 2:53:56 PM

If they have filled out the correct paper work and bought the land then they do have the right to build it, but I agree that is is sort of tasteless. Would a Muslim majority nations like it, if a Christian group killed thousands of Muslims in an open field, then bought the land, and then built a church on it?

I don't know why any Islamic group would want to build a mosque near ground zero. They should know that the majority of Americans are going to look down on them for doing it and be pissed off.

8/27/2010 2:54:13 PM

Did they pick that places specifically because it was near ground zero? Or did they pick that place because it was something that they could afford, or it was something that was avaliable?

8/27/2010 2:58:32 PM

Quote :

"If they have filled out the correct paper work and bought the land then they do have the right to build it, but I agree that is is sort of tasteless. Would a Muslim majority nations like it, if a Christian group killed thousands of Muslims in an open field, then bought the land, and then built a church on it?"

This is meaningless. What does this scenario have to do with anything?

8/27/2010 2:58:36 PM

the idiot creeper wrote it, of course it's irrelevant

8/27/2010 3:00:59 PM

It's not like its right across the street, its like 2 blocks away and facing another direction.

besides, what's the diameter where it's ok to build it? 5 blocks? 5 miles? within city limits?

8/27/2010 3:20:20 PM

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"besides, what's the diameter where it's ok to build it? 5 blocks? 5 miles? within city limits?"

well, we all know murfreesboro is too close

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/murfreesboro-tennessee-mosque-plan-draws-criticism-residents/story?id=10956381

maybe texas?

[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 3:25 PM. Reason : better link]

8/27/2010 3:24:54 PM

Quote :

"This is meaningless. What does this scenario have to do with anything?"

The point is, it is sort of tasteless to try to build a mosque in an area where some Muslims committed an act or terrorism. If I was going to build a church in a Muslim dominated nation, I wouldn't build it on a piece of land, if I knew Christian terrorist had recently committed an act of terrorism near there. The only thing that would do is piss a lot of people off. That is what seems to be happening here.

8/27/2010 3:31:09 PM

Well it's bad taste to have a sushi bar near pearl harbor.

8/27/2010 3:34:15 PM

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"Well it's bad taste to have a sushi bar near pearl harbor."

Well if the press isn't making a big deal out of it then no. The press and some Americans have set the standard that 2 blocks is too close to ground zero for a mosque to be built. In this case it is probably better to build it farther away, if they can, just to prevent the protest, vandalism, etc.

8/27/2010 3:44:23 PM

^^^ Or maybe they're trying to change the pre-conceived notion that it was an attack by the Muslim religion on the US? Did you ever think of that? Building the building (I believe it's more a Muslim oriented activity building than an actual Mosque, but it's been some time since I've read any information on it) in Nebraska wouldn't be nearly as effective as building it near the former site of the WTC. I think you forget that not only were Christians/Jews/ect affected 9/11, but also Muslims, not because a few may have died on that day (asides from the terrorists), but the whiplash people had against Muslims after 9/11, and I think many also overlook the fact that there are a lot of Muslims in NYC (in addition to Jews and Christians).


[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 3:49 PM. Reason : ^ Since when have we cared what the media actually thinks?]

8/27/2010 3:49:07 PM

RANCHERO

8/27/2010 3:49:15 PM

the problem is that in America we stretch everybody's rights as far as we possibly can

so that everybody's rights get in the way of everybody else's

8/27/2010 3:59:07 PM

^ not really...the right to protest isn't getting in the way of their right to build

it's the nutjobs that have NO right to do what they do (attack cabbies, harass, vandalize, etc) that get in the way of the muslims' right to build and worship

8/27/2010 4:03:53 PM

I was thinking more along the lines of their right to build, regardless of circumstances...

conflicting with other people's right not to have followers of a certain minority religion build shrines on the site where fanatics of that religion killed thousands of Americans

maybe the second one isn't a "right," but what the hell, I don't believe in objective rights anyway

8/27/2010 4:06:51 PM

^Only thing is...they aren't building a shrine on the site where this happened.

They are building their place of worship down the street from where it happened.



In that picture it shows to Christian churches closer than the mosque site is.

[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 4:19 PM. Reason : ]

8/27/2010 4:13:48 PM

CC is not TSB #2--or is it?

8/27/2010 4:28:24 PM

^^
another thing about Americans is that we are highly susceptible to buzzwords in our headlines

8/27/2010 4:33:20 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpT2Muxoo0

I like this guy.

8/27/2010 5:21:32 PM

Aren't there enough religious buildings already? Especially those used for perversion of their religion to justify terrorism?

8/27/2010 8:22:39 PM

that song says it's a sacred place

sounds like a perfect location for a house of worship to me

8/27/2010 8:28:57 PM

right next to univer$ity of phoenix

8/27/2010 10:32:18 PM

...do I have to be the guy who points out that it's not a Mosque?

8/27/2010 11:17:13 PM

^ Do I have to be the guy who points out that you're wrong?

Quote :

"• a mosque, intended to be run separately from Park51 but open to and accessible to all members, visitors and our New York community"

http://www.park51.org/facilities.htm

Check your facts--not left-wing talking points.

8/27/2010 11:33:20 PM

Quote :

"The mosque at Ground Zero is neither a mosque nor at Ground Zero!"

(and others...)

While it is not solely a mosque, even their own website says there is a mosque to be a part of the final building. It is a shame, a crying shame that everyone (headline writers, critics, people who banter about it without having educated themselves) seems to have picked up on the word "mosque" and run with it. It is meant to be a community center as well; read their FAQ to learn more.
http://www.park51.org/faq.htm
(p.s. the mosque hasn't been named yet)

(more discussion; note that it was originally to be called the Cordoba House: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/nyregion/14center.html?_r=1)

As for this...

Quote :

"Especially those used for perversion of their religion to justify terrorism?"

I would like to note that it is not solely Islam which has been perverted to justify terrorism. I may be stretching the term in some people's estimation, but seriously.. I think this is an unnecessary qualifier. I would have stopped with "don't we have enough houses of worship?" That sentiment, I could possibly agree with, but let's not pretend that Islam is the only religion that has been associated with terrorism in the modern world. (and I'm not limiting my definition of terrorism to patent expressions of violence, though you could find examples of that as well...)

[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 11:41 PM. Reason : p.s. if it can really promote tolerance and understanding, I have no problem with it.]

[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 11:42 PM. Reason : ^ good, I got beat to the punch. But it isn't solely a mosque...let's all remember that]

8/27/2010 11:40:15 PM