Stonerman All American 672 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-charlotte/north-carolina-governor-suspends-gun-rights
Wow. 9/2/2010 8:15:57 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27748 Posts user info edit post |
i really want to rip bev perdue about this, but she didn't really do it 9/2/2010 8:18:11 PM |
BubbleBobble :3 114242 Posts user info edit post |
9/2/2010 8:18:27 PM |
kiljadn All American 44689 Posts user info edit post |
9/2/2010 8:20:14 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
Okay I only read like pieces of a few sentences but from what I've gathered it's always been like that during a state of emergency? True?
If so, why are people just now bitching. 9/2/2010 8:20:32 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
Time to get back to your bong, bro 9/2/2010 8:22:27 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If so, why are people just now bitching." |
some groups have been bitching about it for years9/2/2010 8:23:17 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
i don't really get how it is trampling on people's rights when it is a state of emergency
but i know other people are all like rawr rawr grumble grumble
it will be over in a few days
you can use your guns then
until then you'll just have to combat the hurricane and the grocery store lines for bread and milk like the rest of us
[Edited on September 2, 2010 at 8:28 PM. Reason : .] 9/2/2010 8:27:39 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
that news headline could conceivably be more deceiving.
but i'm not sure how. 9/2/2010 8:28:10 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
dove season opens saturday. the dove season is like the hunter's new year. it's the first season to open up. dove hunting on opening day is a tradition for a lot of people.
most of the state is not in a "state of emergency"
besides, i don't see the advantage to having the law-abiding citizens unarmed during a state of emergency
[Edited on September 2, 2010 at 8:31 PM. Reason : i doubt this will be enforced anyway] 9/2/2010 8:30:44 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
you're NOT unarmed.
there's a hurricane bearing down on you, it's called a state of emergency.
so stay the fuck home with your guns and look out the windows for looters.
you'll get to go kill some animals for your sport another day. i promise you.
[Edited on September 2, 2010 at 8:36 PM. Reason : ] 9/2/2010 8:31:59 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "besides, i don't see the advantage to having the law-abiding citizens unarmed during a state of emergency " |
i think they do it to prevent worst case scenario (think katrina) type deals. like when shit really hits the fan and people are rioting and looting in the streets and no one can find food. desperate people resort to desperate measures so i guess they're trying to prevent the absolute worst (and prevent the gun holders from just taking the law into their own hands, if shit like that were to happen)? but that is just myyyy thought.
and how is a gun gonna help keep a hurricane away
[Edited on September 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM. Reason : .]9/2/2010 8:33:17 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
there is no emergency situation where i am
everything is quite normal 9/2/2010 8:33:28 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
well, so go hunting then.
even if it's enforced (which i doubt) its only a misdemeanor.
and then you can exercise civil disobedience and become part of a lawsuit to challenge the constitutional aspect of this law.
which has nothing to do with the Gov'ner by the way... 9/2/2010 8:35:27 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52766 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, this law is fucked up, and if I felt inclined to carry one of my guns anywhere, I wouldn't let it stop me, and I doubt that it's enforced. furthermore, the kind of wild scenario that this law is meant for is the kind of scenario where you can bet your ass that I'd be armed, regardless of what the law says.
that said, the thread title is completely disingenuous.
[Edited on September 3, 2010 at 5:04 AM. Reason : ] 9/3/2010 5:00:47 AM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
If guns are banned only hurricanes will have guns. 9/3/2010 5:39:57 AM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
comments from the article:
Quote : | "I think that this won't be the last time that they try this. They are trying to disarm us so that they have us vulnerable. They can pry my guns from my cold dead fingers, but only after I've emptied them into a few of those communistic savages first.
God bless." |
Quote : | "In order for the government to exert absolute control over its subjects, they must first be disarmed. This is a key factor here. What is going on here is diabolical and the politicians should be imprisoned." |
Quote : | "Communism/socialism! Nazi germany...Hitler disarmed everyone at the beginning of the war." |
9/3/2010 5:48:39 AM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "DEY TIK R GUUUNNZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!11111111111" |
LOL
Which one of you posted this comment?9/3/2010 6:04:09 AM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
I love these responses. They all reek of hooksaw in each and every single one of them. 9/3/2010 6:56:12 AM |
Opstand All American 9256 Posts user info edit post |
TWW is blowing up the comments section this morning 9/3/2010 7:02:28 AM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the thread title is completely disingenuous" |
its the name of the article, broseph9/3/2010 7:06:26 AM |
NCSUWolfy All American 12966 Posts user info edit post |
wow you people sure are quick to give up your rights 9/3/2010 8:17:20 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52766 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that's disingenuous too 9/3/2010 8:19:58 AM |
Bobby Light All American 2650 Posts user info edit post |
I'll be damned if I quit carrying....I agree with theDuke.
Quote : | "furthermore, the kind of wild scenario that this law is meant for is the kind of scenario where you can bet your ass that I'd be armed, regardless of what the law says." |
9/3/2010 8:27:10 AM |
longbow_fc All American 1163 Posts user info edit post |
lol so all the decient people will be unarmed, let the robberies and and muggings begin.
during Ike here, the city gov't here stopped the sale of alcohol and ammo for 2 days after the storm passed. but the gave us a warning 5 days in advance. my hurricane supplies now include ammo, and at least 5 cases of beer per person. i bought 2 cases of beer thinking it would be enough for me, i was out the 1st day... 9/3/2010 8:33:32 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Guns & Beer for a hurricane! YEEEEEEHHHAAAAAAWWW! 9/3/2010 8:48:41 AM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
guns are for pussies
[Edited on September 3, 2010 at 9:10 AM. Reason : with small cocks] 9/3/2010 9:10:28 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
give me my rights back 9/3/2010 9:18:45 AM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
It's to prevent you seeing this at your local wal-mart:
I don't necessarily agree with it though.
It goes to show the government is afraid of us, especially when we're hungry. Picture them dumping food rations off an overpass to the angry mobs below during Katrina.
[Edited on September 3, 2010 at 9:21 AM. Reason : .] 9/3/2010 9:19:03 AM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
They're backpedaling already, say dove season is a go. How convenient that they just ignore their own laws.
http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/8233021/ 9/3/2010 9:30:00 AM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
This is not news 9/3/2010 9:37:11 AM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
This is not news 9/3/2010 9:37:11 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
this happens every time there is a hurricane
it never gets enforced
This is not news 9/3/2010 9:40:42 AM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
Not a big deal for me anymore, I've long since sold my gun.
[Edited on September 3, 2010 at 9:45 AM. Reason : blah] 9/3/2010 9:44:42 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Rednecks getting their panties in a wad ITT. 9/3/2010 9:50:39 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "during Ike here, the city gov't here stopped the sale of alcohol and ammo for 2 days after the storm passed. but the gave us a warning 5 days in advance. my hurricane supplies now include ammo, and at least 5 cases of beer per person. i bought 2 cases of beer thinking it would be enough for me, i was out the 1st day..." |
Hell yeah buddy, gettin' drunk and stayin' armed.
YEE HAW9/3/2010 10:16:47 AM |
ALkatraz All American 11299 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They're backpedaling already, say dove season is a go." |
Those birds will be easier to shoot when flying into hurricane force winds. They're flapping but just hanging there in the sky. Easy shootin'.9/3/2010 10:20:00 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
The Constitution overrules this stupid state law.
And yes, people have been bitching about this for a long time. And you can blame Bev, just like any other governor for suspending gun rights... they have the ability to get the law changed and they don't.
Quote : | "i think they do it to prevent worst case scenario (think katrina) type deals. like when shit really hits the fan and people are rioting and looting in the streets and no one can find food. desperate people resort to desperate measures so i guess they're trying to prevent the absolute worst (and prevent the gun holders from just taking the law into their own hands, if shit like that were to happen)? but that is just myyyy thought." |
Well, let's just prevent any worst case scenarios and have the police search everyone's home for any thing that could be used as a weapon and then have a police office in everyone's home, just to make sure.
Unconstitutional law is unconstitutional.
Quote : | "It goes to show the government is afraid of us, especially when we're hungry. Picture them dumping food rations off an overpass to the angry mobs below during Katrina." |
'Tis one of the main purposes of the 2nd Amendment. The government should be in fear of the people.
[Edited on September 3, 2010 at 10:30 AM. Reason : .]9/3/2010 10:28:55 AM |
jbtilley All American 12796 Posts user info edit post |
Execute Order 62.
9/3/2010 11:05:13 AM |
jethromoore All American 2529 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "TITLE 42 - THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE CHAPTER 68 - DISASTER RELIEF SUBCHAPTER V - MISCELLANEOUS
-HEAD- Sec. 5207. Firearms policies
-STATUTE- (a) Prohibition on confiscation of firearms No officer or employee of the United States (including any member of the uniformed services), or person operating pursuant to or under color of Federal law, or receiving Federal funds, or under control of any Federal official, or providing services to such an officer, employee, or other person, while acting in support of relief from a major disaster or emergency, may - (1) temporarily or permanently seize, or authorize seizure of, any firearm the possession of which is not prohibited under Federal, State, or local law, other than for forfeiture in compliance with Federal law or as evidence in a criminal investigation; (2) require registration of any firearm for which registration is not required by Federal, State, or local law; (3) prohibit possession of any firearm, or promulgate any rule, regulation, or order prohibiting possession of any firearm, in any place or by any person where such possession is not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State, or local law; or (4) prohibit the carrying of firearms by any person otherwise authorized to carry firearms under Federal, State, or local law, solely because such person is operating under the direction, control, or supervision of a Federal agency in support of relief from the major disaster or emergency. (b) Limitation Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit any person in subsection (a) from requiring the temporary surrender of a firearm as a condition for entry into any mode of transportation used for rescue or evacuation during a major disaster or emergency, provided that such temporarily surrendered firearm is returned at the completion of such rescue or evacuation. (c) Private rights of action (1) In general Any individual aggrieved by a violation of this section may seek relief in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress against any person who subjects such individual, or causes such individual to be subjected, to the deprivation of any of the rights, privileges, or immunities secured by this section. (2) Remedies In addition to any existing remedy in law or equity, under any law, an individual aggrieved by the seizure or confiscation of a firearm in violation of this section may bring an action for return of such firearm in the United States district court in the district in which that individual resides or in which such firearm may be found. (3) Attorney fees In any action or proceeding to enforce this section, the court shall award the prevailing party, other than the United States, a reasonable attorney's fee as part of the costs." |
http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/42C68.txt9/3/2010 11:14:05 AM |
Big4Country All American 11907 Posts user info edit post |
quote]there is no emergency situation where i am
everything is quite normal[/quote]
This is the same governor who said she was applying for federal disaster aid the last time is snowed. In the end the snow melted in a day, or two and everything went back to normal. She seems to think anything beyond sun and a little rain is a disaster. 9/3/2010 11:24:18 AM |
jbtilley All American 12796 Posts user info edit post |
^ When that happened I remember thinking that she was going to end up causing a 'boy who cried wolf' scenario. A real disaster strikes and no one gives us any help. 9/3/2010 12:26:06 PM |
ALkatraz All American 11299 Posts user info edit post |
^^ ^
[Edited on September 3, 2010 at 12:37 PM. Reason : -] 9/3/2010 12:37:06 PM |
Big4Country All American 11907 Posts user info edit post |
^^It would be interesting to transplant the entire state of NC in the midwest and see what happened everytime there was a tornado, or blizzard. We would be in a state of emergency year round.
^You don't need to register for disaster aid after 1 inch of snow falls on the ground.
[Edited on September 3, 2010 at 12:40 PM. Reason : .] 9/3/2010 12:38:19 PM |
ALkatraz All American 11299 Posts user info edit post |
I agree.
The governor is dumb. 9/3/2010 12:44:52 PM |
engrish All American 2380 Posts user info edit post |
I just bought a gun 30 minutes ago - guess the rights are back in place. 9/3/2010 2:05:25 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
Why is that youmotherfucker treat gun rights activists like they are rednecks and thats the only possible demographic that advocates legal ownership, possession, and use of firearms?
its getting real old
haha cant argue with this though
[Edited on September 3, 2010 at 2:26 PM. Reason : f] 9/3/2010 2:25:25 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
yes, the law is unconstitutional and needs to be changed, and you aren't a redneck for noting this fact.
and yes there are some particularly stupid people in this thread (B4C, etc.) bitching about how a state of emergency is overkill, and they would be the first to scream and shout about unprepared government as soon as Earl takes a turn inland and devastates half the state.
Quote : | "wdprice3And you can blame Bev, just like any other governor for suspending gun rights... they have the ability to get the law changed and they don't.
Well, let's just prevent any worst case scenarios and have the police search everyone's home for any thing that could be used as a weapon and then have a police office in everyone's home, just to make sure." |
but damn, man, i was recently starting to like your posts, and then you go and unload this dumptruck full of stupid right on our front lawn.
[Edited on September 3, 2010 at 2:41 PM. Reason : ]9/3/2010 2:38:47 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52766 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is the same governor who said she was applying for federal disaster aid the last time is snowed. In the end the snow melted in a day, or two and everything went back to normal. She seems to think anything beyond sun and a little rain is a disaster." |
i don't blame her if she applied for disaster aid on a clear, sunny day. the feds take a bunch of money, then redispense it as they see fit. I'm no fan of Gov. Perdue, but I can't blame her for trying to get back dollars that never should have been taken to begin with.9/3/2010 3:29:56 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
I love far right idiots who don't want to believe that Nazism was/is a far right political ideology. 9/3/2010 4:38:55 PM |