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"A restaurant in Carolina Beach is stirring up controversy over a couple of signs reading, "Screaming children will not be tolerated." The owner of the Olde Salty restaurant, Brenda Armes, is tired of having her customers complain to her about children misbehaving and screaming when others are trying to enjoy a quiet meal. Armes says the signs have worked. "It has been a good thing for us," Armes said. "It has brought us in more customers than it has ever kept away." Gary Gibson was dining at the restaurant for the first time and agrees with Armes. "It's not very enjoyable when you hear a bunch of kids screaming. It's nice to see a sign like that up," Gibson said. While many are for the rule, some families are against it. "I've never seen a restaurant say, don't bring your screaming kids in here," said Ashley Heflin, who is a mom of two. "You can't help it if your kids scream." Armes says that if a child is screaming, a restaurant employee will ask the parent to take them outside to calm down. They will not be asked to leave the restaurant for good. "We want to attract the type of people that come in knowing they aren't going to have to sit behind a table with a bunch of screaming children," Armes said."

http://www.wect.com/global/story.asp?s=13107715

9/8/2010 12:51:28 PM

why is this news.

9/8/2010 12:52:47 PM

Because obama is President.

9/8/2010 12:54:18 PM

It isn't.

9/8/2010 12:54:34 PM

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""You can't help it if your kids scream"

Yes - yes you can.

9/8/2010 12:54:48 PM

because children are evil

9/8/2010 12:54:49 PM

any parent who would be apposed to this sign does not have control over their children. kids would know proper manner, especially when eating out in public. screaming is not tolerated!

9/8/2010 1:01:27 PM

^^^

9/8/2010 1:03:28 PM

apposed?

know proper manner?

9/8/2010 1:03:39 PM

lol @ sparky

9/8/2010 1:05:53 PM

I'm not going to take my kids out to a restaurant until they're around 16.

9/8/2010 1:14:03 PM

I think parents that leave their kids screaming in a restaurant got two things going on:

1. They're so used to their kids screaming that they don't notice it.
2. They don't wanna take the kid outside and miss their meal.

A sign indicating that screaming kids will not be tolerated is a great reminder for parents to take they kids out the restaurant.

9/8/2010 1:14:14 PM

Have respect for others. Beat your children.

9/8/2010 1:21:04 PM

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""You can't help it if your kids scream"

I see this mindset with my brother and sister in-law. I flat out refuse to go out to eat with them anymore because they will let their 4-year old scream, whine, and run laps around the damn restaurant. They just throw their hands up and figure it's normal.

Hell, even if it was normal, which is bullshit, then you just don't go out to a restaurant until the kid has some self-control. It's basic respect for other people around you.

[Edited on September 8, 2010 at 1:35 PM. Reason : no, im not a kid hater, I have two, they behave or they get taken outside]

9/8/2010 1:31:51 PM

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""You can't help it if your kids scream"

Yes - yes you can.

[Edited on September 8, 2010 at 1:34 PM. Reason : .]

9/8/2010 1:34:32 PM

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""It has been a good thing for us," Armes said. "It has brought us in more customers than it has ever kept away.""

Good! Keep it up!

9/8/2010 1:35:52 PM

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""You can't help it if your kids scream""

Wtf? Like others have said, yes you can. All my mom had to tell me was, "Do we need to go to the bathroom?" That meant my ass was grass if I didn't shut up right then.

Now, with the future sis and bro-in-law..... I'm not so sure they agree....

9/8/2010 1:38:18 PM

If my daughter acts up, she is removed fast. Also - we only take her to family friendly restaurants. I use to hate when I would take a date to someplace fancy - just to listen to little baby screams O lot while the mother whispers to "please stop".

Do not want to be "those people" who have no control or clue.

9/8/2010 1:44:24 PM

my nieces are these terrible kids. They are so bad and spoiled. My BIL gets mad if I tell one of them "no" becasue they will get upset and have a super tempertantrum. No one has ever told them no, my sister says it's just easier to let them have thier way then tell them no.

9/8/2010 1:48:15 PM

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"my sister says it's just easier to let them have thier way then tell them no."

That is such a dumb, such a lazy attitude. When your daughter grows up to be Paris Hilton - its on you.

People like this should not be parents.

9/8/2010 1:50:52 PM

I think the best way to handle it is to have a bunch of kids and let them act out as much as they want.

Then one day you beat one of them to death as an example.

9/8/2010 1:54:33 PM

This resturant will have my business the next time I'm in Carolina Beach. GG!

9/8/2010 1:57:04 PM

Good on them. There are few things worse than a screaming, out-of-control child. If your kid can't behave while at the privacy of your own dinner table, you shouldn't be dragging them out in public.

9/8/2010 1:58:11 PM

Thank god there is no "Beaten children will not be tolerated" sign

9/8/2010 2:07:32 PM

seeing my sister's kids, makes me know that I will probably give a healthy spanking every now and then so they have a healthy fear/respect.

I plan on telling them "no".

9/8/2010 2:17:10 PM

there are lots of people posting in this thread that obviously do not have kids of their own. Not that I am saying screaming kids in public is acceptable, only that kids often behave well at home where they are comfortable, and differently in public when out of their routine.

A 1 yr old does not understand spanking or the word "no", so I wish all of you the best of luck in training your ideal young kids to be perfectly well mannered.

9/8/2010 2:27:27 PM

My little girl did understand "No" at 1 year, and if she didn't stop screaming - I would take her for a walk outside instead of letting her annoy the other patrons.

Kids will yell and scream - but to imply that nothing can be done is lazy parenting.

[Edited on September 8, 2010 at 2:42 PM. Reason : sdv]

9/8/2010 2:31:32 PM

private business. he can make any reasonable rules regarding his patrons.

9/8/2010 2:31:43 PM

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"A 1 yr old does not understand spanking or the word "no","

A 2 yr old understands spanking and the word "no" but only when they are taught at 1 yr old.

9/8/2010 2:32:30 PM

HEY, IF I CAN'T ENJOY A SMOKE WITH MY MEAL, THEN I'M SURE AS HELL NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH YOUR SCREAMING KIDS. TAKE THEM TO GET A HAPPY MEAL. IN THE FUCKING DRIVE THROUGH.

9/8/2010 2:35:04 PM

i fucking hate children

9/8/2010 2:36:33 PM

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"A 1 yr old does not understand spanking or the word "no", so I wish all of you the best of luck in training your ideal young kids to be perfectly well mannered."

No one is saying that all children should be silent in public, regardless of age.

In the case of those too young to be expected to behave properly, the onus is on the parents to solve the problem: remove the child from the situation.

9/8/2010 2:38:47 PM

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"there are lots of people posting in this thread that obviously do not have kids of their own. Not that I am saying screaming kids in public is acceptable, only that kids often behave well at home where they are comfortable, and differently in public when out of their routine. A 1 yr old does not understand spanking or the word "no", so I wish all of you the best of luck in training your ideal young kids to be perfectly well mannered."

Then if your 1 yr old does not understand, you take them out of the restaurant until they calm down.

Or you don't take them out to a restaurant until they are able to behave themselves during dinner.

My problem isn't with parents who don't know how to discipline their kids or keep them quite during a meal in public. I'm not going to teach you how to raise your kids. My problem is with parents who take those "problem kids" out to restaurants. Leave them the fuck at home.

If you want a nice meal out...then get a babysitter. If you can't afford a babysitter, then you probably shouldn't be spending money on a nice meal out.

9/8/2010 2:40:24 PM

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"A 1 yr old does not understand spanking or the word "no", so I wish all of you the best of luck in training your ideal young kids to be perfectly well mannered. "

a 1 year old understands a lot more than you think. You might have a special needs kid, but I can assure you that at one, they understand boundaries, if properly reinforced by parents.

And parents who have an infant that does randomly cry or is colicky need to stay the fuck home.

9/8/2010 2:41:07 PM

I agree with this rule for children who are choosing to scream (from bad parenting or whatever that is easily controllable) but a colicky infant doesn't need a spanking and there's not much a parent can do for them. That said, we don't take our infant out to much more than fast food, and even then we make sure he just ate and was changed so he's in a nice milk coma during our meal.

9/8/2010 2:41:12 PM

I don't think by any stretch of the imagination my kids will be "ideal" or "well behaved" I just don't want them acting like thier cousins.

-the funny thing is that my nieces act better in public and esp. if thier parents aren't around. They know they can get away with murder if thier parents are there.

9/8/2010 2:41:28 PM

I support this restaurant 100%. In my opinion well behaved kids are a sign of responsible parenting, and their actions are a direct reflection of the parents' respect for others. I'm willing to make exceptions for a crying infant (although I do wish parents would take them outside until they calm down), I absolutely cannot tolerate when kids are allowed to crawl over the booths/yell/throw food/run laps around the restaurant/otherwise act a fool. Letting your child act out like this is simply rude and downright lazy.

9/8/2010 6:31:08 PM

I should not have to go somewhere where I am paying over $20 an entree and have to deal with kids. They shouldn't even be allowed in. Take your kids to McDonald's or some other shit place.

9/8/2010 6:33:53 PM

Im not preemie so i see ads, is it a coincidence that the ads for this page are for kids ADH medication?

9/8/2010 6:57:35 PM

^ lol what the fuck

9/8/2010 6:59:27 PM

ceiling google is to blame

9/8/2010 7:00:02 PM

oh great, now it's "controversial" when you prohibit people from doing inconsiderate things on the premises of your business

9/8/2010 7:18:59 PM

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"but a colicky infant doesn't need a spanking and there's not much a parent can do for them."

This is God damn bullshit. With respect to what they can do for the other restaurant patrons, they can take their ass outside/to the bathroom or they can get in their car and leave. Better yet, DON'T TAKE AN INFANT TO A RESTAURANT! This isn't science. If your baby won't shut the hell up for 2 hours, then don't take him/her to a restaurant and expect the rest of us to put up with it and "understand." How about I leave my dog outside at night and let him bark all night and keep your ass awake? I can put up with it, why can't anyone else?

What's worse is when some dumbfuck parents decide to bring their toddlers on a 14 hour plane ride and THEY DON'T SHUT THE HELL UP. They stand up on the seat and they cry and make a ton of noise. I don't blame the kids, as I don't like sitting there for 14 hours either. What makes it worse is when the parents don't change the fucking kids! It's like they were immune to the shit smell of their own children.

9/8/2010 7:19:57 PM

^ Good parents drug their children before plane trips. A spoonful of Nyquil should do it.

9/8/2010 7:21:42 PM

or just shake them a lot

9/8/2010 7:25:39 PM

or stuff them into suitcases and pick them up at baggage claim after the flight

9/8/2010 7:34:27 PM