http://www.greenboxny.com/ecoincorporated.com/Alt_Video.html

Make it happen, hippy.

9/29/2010 2:38:11 PM

damn, that's pretty cool

9/29/2010 2:40:28 PM

very cool idea. I say go for it


whats the cost on those things versus what you're paying now?

9/29/2010 2:40:33 PM

neat

9/29/2010 2:41:44 PM

The people have spoken. I may or may not have financial holdings in said company.

9/29/2010 2:42:23 PM

Nice. I like that.

9/29/2010 2:42:26 PM

Cool.

9/29/2010 3:01:55 PM

awesome.

9/29/2010 3:09:07 PM

This is something I could have been utilizing in the thirty million hotels I've been to, with half a pizza left.

Sign me up.

9/29/2010 3:49:30 PM

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"This is something I could have been utilizing in the thirty million hotels I've been to, with half a pizza left. Sign me up."

This happens to me nearly every week

9/29/2010 3:58:18 PM

this is how green engineering is supposed to work

no crazy new materials, no wacky recycling methods

just design things to waste less

one of these boxes saves four paper plates and one or two ziploc bags with nothing more than some extra perforation

i know i'm being obvious here, but it's a damn brilliant idea

9/29/2010 4:06:33 PM

this is noted. very noted.

9/29/2010 6:47:09 PM

it's a trap

if you need four plates, there won't be any pizza left over to store

9/29/2010 7:46:43 PM

uh....



guys.




Unless there's some magic form of interstellar physics going on here, this doesn't reduce waste.



The box tears apart into smaller pieces. The smaller pieces still exist. You're not teleporting them into some magical black hole. The sum of the parts still equal the original item.




Another example:


If I take a gallon of milk, 16 cups, and pour 8 ounces of milk into each cup, I still have a gallon of milk and 16 cups.


Just because you move shit around into a different shape doesn't mean it doesn't exist anymore.

Billing it as "green" is just a gross misrepresentation.

[Edited on September 29, 2010 at 7:56 PM. Reason : not you guys. the makers.]

9/29/2010 7:54:36 PM

doesn't ruckus still use 2 plates per slice-o-pizza?


nvm. you don't get plates with take-out

9/29/2010 7:55:46 PM

^ the advent of this item doesn't stop the production of paper plates. Just because you don't buy them doesn't mean that someone else won't. Nor does it mean that the trees used to make said paper plates don't still get cut down.



Paper plates have a much greater market demand than people who use them to eat pizza.

9/29/2010 7:58:04 PM

yeah. pretty much only good for taking up less room in your fridge, and maybe saving a few plates.

9/29/2010 7:59:14 PM

^^ I'm assuming you are being purposely ignorant.

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"Unless there's some magic form of interstellar physics going on here, this doesn't reduce waste."

No one in this thread stated that it directly reduces waste and the video did not either, so you wasted your time arguing that

It is re-purposing/reuse of materials (different than reducing waste/recycling) to indirectly save waste by not using additional products (paper plates/ziplog bags) or using a plate that then has to be washed (or at least rinsed) before it is reused.

And no kidding about the fact that it doesn't stop their production. On the small scale and short term for consumers, almost any reduction in use of materials doesn't really affect the amount they are producing right now.

I don't keep paper plates in the house anyway but I still think this is a cool idea for college students and stuff.

[Edited on September 29, 2010 at 8:02 PM. Reason : ]

9/29/2010 8:00:03 PM

Exactly. Sort of like drinking milk straight out of the carton.

9/29/2010 8:01:12 PM

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"No one in this thread stated that it directly reduces waste and the video did not either, so you wasted your time arguing that"

Perhaps you missed the name of the company.

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"Billing it as "green" is just a gross misrepresentation."

9/29/2010 8:05:33 PM

On a related note....


I had to print off some slides to take to a meeting today... so I thought I would print 2 slides/sheet of paper to be more "eco friendly"

Anyway, ended up using 25 sheets of paper instead of 50.


Then, right as I was heading down to the meeting, I noticed a pretty big fuck up in the slides which I had to correct, and then reprint

I just kind of lawled

9/29/2010 8:12:06 PM

I can't believe it took this long to come up with the idea of the box turning into another smaller storage box

its GENIUS

also my roommate can stop putting THE ENTIRE PIZZA BOX IN THE REFRIGERATOR for the 2 pieces she doesn't eat

9/29/2010 8:13:48 PM

let's say i use paper plates on the regular, and i get pizza with my friends to watch the state game every week, and the pizza starts coming in this box

that's four less paper plates and one less ziploc bag every week

which comes out to one less box of ziploc bags and five less packs of paper plates every year, just from using the same amount of cardboard in the pizza box but perforating it differently

now, say everyone in the country does the same thing...that's a lot of paper and plastic being saved

does it keep the plates & bags from being produced? not initially. but if 100 million people bought one less box of ziploc bags every year, you bet your ass production numbers would get smaller

this is precisely my point about green engineering. you can't do everything in a day, but there's absolutely no reason not to take small, convenient steps toward wasting less.

9/29/2010 8:18:17 PM

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" Perhaps you missed the name of the company. "

"Green" is a veryyy broad statement. You're basing your whole argument on your definition/interpretation of the term. Personally, I think finding extra use for something (something you are going to get rid of at some point anyway) that diverts people from using other materials that generally get thrown in the trash after their use easily fits within the "green" definition. To each their own though.

I do think there are a lot of things that get billed "green" that aren't really doing much and I also think the word gets thrown around too much. I have no problems with you as a user, but I think you are being a little nitpicky here.

[Edited on September 29, 2010 at 8:25 PM. Reason : ]

9/29/2010 8:21:56 PM

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"the advent of this item doesn't stop the production of paper plates. Just because you don't buy them doesn't mean that someone else won't. Nor does it mean that the trees used to make said paper plates don't still get cut down."

wow!

you're right!

fuck it!

9/29/2010 8:22:08 PM

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"now, say everyone in the country does the same thing...that's a lot of paper and plastic being saved"

And if you get 5,000 people to send you one dollar, and they get 10000 people to send them $2, and so on and so forth, you will be a kajillionaire in a few short weeks!




I think that the fact that no one in this thread had seen this item before after it being in existence for 2 years is evidence enough of how successful this "green" product is.




Don't get me wrong, I'm not against products that make an impact. I'm against the bilking of sheeple by misrepresentation of a product. The only thing "green" about this product is that it is made from recycled cardboard. The last I checked, greasy-ass pizza boxes are the EOL of cardboard as far as a recycleable or reclaimable material.

9/29/2010 8:30:46 PM

I agree with kiljadn, this is a pretty far stretch of 'green technology'

although it is pretty sweet. mostly the part about the box folds up into a smaller box, because i, for one, used the lid as a plate before

9/29/2010 8:47:50 PM

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"I think that the fact that no one in this thread had seen this item before after it being in existence for 2 years is evidence enough of how successful this "green" product is."

Success often has little to do with quality. Betamax was superior to VHS, but VHS was cheaper and became standard. Money talks. Perhaps these gents are asking too much for the license to their pizza box perforation scheme.

9/29/2010 8:52:02 PM

I had actually heard of this before this thread was created.

9/29/2010 11:09:50 PM

I couldn't care less about saving paper plates or trash bags or the environment or whatever else, but this thing looks super-convenient.

Saves fridge/counter space for leftovers, easier to throw away due to easy and compact break-down, and keeps me from having to dirty up a plate when ordering pizza.

Who cares whether or not it saves the environment when it's clearly so useful in every other way? Why is anyone in the thread trying to advocate not using this thing? (unless your argument is that it costs too much more than using normal pizza boxes, but... I don't see anyone saying that)

[Edited on September 29, 2010 at 11:22 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2010 11:19:33 PM

Yeah I was on board with the convenience factor. Anything beyond that would just be a plus.

Hotel + Minifridge + Half a pizza in a full box =

I've been resorting to trying to make a makeshift half box. It does not usually turn out too well.

9/29/2010 11:33:44 PM

You lightweights need to finish your pizza

9/30/2010 6:56:26 AM

People might take this more seriously if it wasnt filmed in a guys old-ass kitchen.

9/30/2010 7:32:56 AM

When I have leftover pizza I wrap it in aluminum foil or place the 1-2 extra slices into large flat tupperware containers that I can use for all sorts of stuff (besides just pizza).

When I eat pizza I use regular ceramic plates and then wash them.

I think what I do is "greener" than this needless product.

9/30/2010 8:58:50 AM

^

9/30/2010 9:12:09 AM

^/^^ your point is only valid if you're not doing carry out or having the pizza delivered...otherwise, your use of water to wash dishes and/or the use of foil (even if you recycle it) wastes more resources than not doing those things (i mean, if a box is going to be used, might as well choose the one that reduces resource usage)

yes, it's a tiny reduction...but it's still a reduction (and that doesn't include your time)

[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 9:16 AM. Reason : .]

9/30/2010 9:15:38 AM

I'd be interested to know if there was any way to get any hard numbers about which is more wasteful: one completely unrecyclable pizza box or (maybe) half a pizza box and the water necessary to rinse plates.

[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 10:34 AM. Reason : .]

9/30/2010 10:33:25 AM

People sure do want to argue a lot when someone invents a better mousetrap.

[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM. Reason : s]

9/30/2010 10:48:19 AM

This pizza box is a novel idea but I'd be worried about the structural integrity of both the lid, especially at the center (the intersection of the 4 perforated "plate" edges), and the creased bottom of the box.

I guess you could always use these:


but that would kind of defeat the "green" advantage.

9/30/2010 11:13:26 AM

I support the lumber industry, therefore I am not in support of this product!!!

just for the sake of argument...in order to get those perforated lines, you now have to tool knives to go on the dies that cut them...resharpen them which is dependent on wear,...might not be cost or energy efficient..imho

conventional pizza boxes are most likely recycled anyways?







[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 11:40 AM. Reason : f]

9/30/2010 11:36:54 AM

Someone is about to make millions.

9/30/2010 12:14:18 PM

nope...someone is about to embark on something that will not be cost effective.

actually I dunno, I'd like to see some numbers crunched and what not..i'm just speculating. The lines perforated lines did not magically appear though with no extra cost, that's for sure.

I was made aware of self sharpening knives...so this could throw my argument out the window. Oh well.

Also, grease will leak more easily out of the perforations (the one on the bottom of the box), no?


[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 12:29 PM. Reason : f]

9/30/2010 12:15:50 PM

I disagree with this proposal.

imagine trying to carry a 24" wide pizza box that is so big it will not fit in the average car door completely fucking shitfaced.............that is recipe for disaster enough without the box being designed to tear in to smaller pieces.

9/30/2010 1:13:01 PM

^Just the top is designed to break down.

9/30/2010 1:13:42 PM

some one needs to invent a recyclable pizza box

9/30/2010 4:31:55 PM