KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
Butkus Award Collegiate Finalists:Akeem Ayers, UCLA Bruce Carter, North Carolina Justin Houston, Georgia Luke Kuechly, Boston College Von Miller, Texas A&M
wow can't believe Bruce Carter made it but Irving was left off... 11/24/2010 2:08:53 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
haters gonna hate 11/24/2010 2:12:04 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck that Nate would suplex Bruce Carter's gay ass 11/24/2010 2:13:06 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
this is just something else they are going to have to take from UNC at the end of the season... 11/24/2010 2:15:22 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
I scoffed audibly 11/24/2010 2:16:13 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Luke Kuechly, Boston College" |
who?11/24/2010 2:17:39 PM |
BoondockSt All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bruce Carter, North Carolina" |
wut.11/24/2010 2:20:08 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that guy is ridiculous and should absolutely be on the list. Did they misspell his name or something? 11/24/2010 2:21:56 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
I don't care so long as Nate busts some skulls. 11/24/2010 2:24:32 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
I'd rather be en route to a conf championship game. Not on some opinionated list with judges that are as corrupt as the same cheaters who organized the current unc football team.
Let that ass clown be a 'nominee' for that. Let Irving enjoy a win over the holes and a major bowl game. 11/24/2010 2:25:37 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i think that dude from BC leads the nation in tackles 11/24/2010 2:26:01 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Luke Kuechly, Boston College" |
that dude has been a beast over the past 2 seasons11/24/2010 2:28:39 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
11/24/2010 2:29:31 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
come on guys, this awards in not about stats for this a award is about how much you have overcome, and Carter has had to overcome a lot this year. i mean he plays for a horrible coach.
What has Nate overcame this year, right. Plus Bruce put up solid stats right, lets go to the stat book,
Tackles: nate 8th carter tied at 36th (not bad)
Sacks: Nate 11th Carter not in the top 20
Tackle for loss Nate 2nd Carter not in the top 20. 11/24/2010 2:35:49 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Carter has crazy physical stats and has had ESPN sucking his dick since the preseason. His popularity is the only reason he's on this list. 11/24/2010 2:41:29 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
11/24/2010 2:41:41 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Someone call and see what's up
http://www.thebutkusaward.com/contactus.aspx
Quote : | "Ron Arp Butkus Foundation 18920 NE 227th Ave. Brush Prairie, WA 98606 360.601.2991 rarp@butkusfoundation.org
For posting player content contact: Larry Monte, 805.377.6722 larrym@corporateimages.com " |
11/24/2010 2:46:43 PM |
phishbfm All American 4715 Posts user info edit post |
B Carter: 57 tackles, 3.5 TFL, 2.5 sacks < Nate Irving 85 tackles, 19 TFL, 5 sacks 11/24/2010 3:35:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
hey, Carter's 3.5 tackles for loss is pretty good
Its not like Nate could more than double that in a single game 11/24/2010 3:37:51 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
wow, that's ridiculous, looking at the stats comparison.
fuck that. 11/24/2010 3:38:29 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
Carter is not even in the top 100 of any defensive stat nationally. Nate is 4th in sacks for loss. 11/24/2010 3:40:43 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
wow, what in the world were they thinking..
maybe john blake slipped them some cash
[Edited on November 24, 2010 at 3:42 PM. Reason : .] 11/24/2010 3:40:49 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
LOL. I hope you were joking
I love Nate, but Kuechly is the best LB in America.
[Edited on November 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM. Reason : ]11/24/2010 3:48:39 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ron Arp Butkus Foundation 18920 NE 227th Ave. Brush Prairie, WA 98606 360.601.2991 rarp@butkusfoundation.org
For posting player content contact: Larry Monte, 805.377.6722 larrym@corporateimages.com " |
So I decided to give Mr. Arp a call...he answered and I just got off about a 5-minute convo with him...I was polite and he was very willing to discuss the candidates with me
He said he had probably gotten 50 emails today asking about Irving, and that none of the other candidates, or lack of candidates, got nearly as much discussion and disagreement from emailers, etc...he said their reasoning for Carter had something to do with a more finesse style of play, but he wanted to let me know that Nate was in the discussion (he was probably the 6th or 7th LB)...and he was also aware of his car wreck 2 offseasons ago, his TFL record setting performance a couple weeks ago, etc
He also mentioned that its POSSIBLE that they could tweak the finalists list, and would probably at least have a write-in vote option...and he said that didn't mean if Nate got on he would win the award, and that he'd really have to play well to have a chance at that, but thats what he said
It was pretty cool that I could just call the dude and he just broke down the process, etc...big ups to Ron Arp]11/24/2010 3:51:57 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Kuechly is freaking badass. He pretty much makes about 50% of the stops for BC by himself.
As for Nate, he got shafted bad. No way in hell that Carter should have made that list. Hopefully the Athletics PR department is bitching at someone for this oversight. Complete horse shit that they left off Nate.
[Edited on November 24, 2010 at 3:55 PM. Reason : ^ gg to Twista] 11/24/2010 3:54:29 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
as Ron Arp googles how to block calls on his phone... 11/24/2010 3:55:37 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^^^In other words, they fall vicitim to the hype/money machine that all college awards and ceremonies do and he was pretty bad at scrambling up a reason to justify the voters lack of knowledge/sanity
Thanks for the feedback, tho
[Edited on November 24, 2010 at 3:56 PM. Reason : ] 11/24/2010 3:56:08 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Ill be honest, I watched sportscenter a lot before say, mud October, and never have heard of the guy. I have heard ofcarter a lot...but maybe that's because I went to highschool with him so I recognize it easier. 11/24/2010 4:00:48 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
the cheating and scandals at UNC have soured the state of North Carolina as a whole, they know that most voters and the public would not want anyone from the state 11/24/2010 4:03:08 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^^ You don't hear of him becuase BC sucks. He's an incredible player....he has 161 tackles this year, 2 INT's, a few sacks.
By comparison, Nate has 85 tackles and Carter has 57
One could argue that Kuechly is having a great year becuase BC is terrible and he's the only outstanding defensive player, but he's been a beast his entire career. (He's a true Sophomore). He had 158 tackles last year as a freshman
[Edited on November 24, 2010 at 4:10 PM. Reason : ] 11/24/2010 4:06:56 PM |
phishbfm All American 4715 Posts user info edit post |
11/24/2010 4:13:29 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Gg twista, mad props. Now someone message that to Irving himself so he gets even more incentive to suplex the Maryland qb
[Edited on November 24, 2010 at 4:35 PM. Reason : V damn phones :Beatup:] 11/24/2010 4:14:09 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
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11/24/2010 4:19:17 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Also factor in that Nate missed a year. 11/24/2010 4:45:31 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bruce Carter, North Carolina" |
11/24/2010 5:01:38 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Irving has better numbers than both Carter and Miller......Houston has a good number of sacks but far less tackles. Kuechly is a machine in tackles, but far less game changing plays(sacks, tfl, etc) 11/24/2010 5:06:02 PM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he said their reasoning for Carter had something to do with a more finesse style of play" |
that makes absolutely no sense at all...11/24/2010 6:58:14 PM |
Chance Suspended 4725 Posts user info edit post |
They need to weight the stats on how long the defense is on the field. Pretty obvious if your defense blows and your offense does too that your D will be on the field for more plays. 11/24/2010 7:03:37 PM |
khufu All American 2103 Posts user info edit post |
I do not get Carter over Irving at all. 11/24/2010 7:13:26 PM |
bonerjamz 04 All American 3217 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^lol 11/24/2010 7:24:25 PM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
Damn! Talk about getting shafted..thats some bull! 11/24/2010 8:07:47 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
can carter beat irving in a foot race? Just wondering about other intangibles that make him "better" ... like the fact that he is a bit of a more beastly specimen. 11/24/2010 8:11:31 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
... or the fact that he plays for UNC? 11/24/2010 8:12:49 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
fucked up 11/24/2010 10:26:16 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
They based it on earning potential and since Carter is already earning they just went with him.
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[Edited on November 25, 2010 at 3:41 AM. Reason : .] 11/25/2010 3:40:57 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
They picked carter because of all the "adversity" he went through. Or either this was the finalist list preseason and the assholes were too lazy to actually watch games. 11/25/2010 7:12:07 AM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
that failure didnt beat nate in fucking anything but losses.
belly shirt haters 11/25/2010 8:58:18 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
horse shit
gg on the call though, TT10 11/25/2010 8:59:04 AM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
linebacker finesse = intimidating pine trees 11/25/2010 9:48:53 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
tackling empty seats for loss 11/25/2010 9:55:04 AM |