Never heard of this since Barker would take it up until midnight but there's a sign on the paybox that says rent was due at 5pm. Website and their official Facebook page plus other websites say no office hours on saturday or sunday. Lease says end of business day.

So I ask you TWW, how can 5pm be the end of a nonexistent business day?

12/5/2010 11:39:21 PM

shove it in the slot and see what happens

12/5/2010 11:40:32 PM

You lose. Pay your rent. Pay on time.

12/5/2010 11:40:34 PM

Don't wait till the last minute fucker

12/5/2010 11:40:56 PM

^^^ obligatory TWSS

12/5/2010 11:45:01 PM

12/5/2010 11:45:02 PM

i like waiting till the last minute. there's no benefit to turning your rent in early. i'll wait to see what excuse the landlord has and then send him the screenshots saying they're closed and he can point to the pertinent part of the lease he thinks applies at 5pm.

12/5/2010 11:51:30 PM

Quote :

"there's no benefit to turning your rent in early."

is there an advantage to waiting til the last minute?

12/5/2010 11:53:18 PM

I've had something apartment-related due on a holiday where they didn't have office hours. The office just said as long as they had it at the start of business the next day they didn't care. Maybe that will work for you?!

I mean seriously, it's not like they're going to log your rent and get deposits together at 7pm anyway.

12/5/2010 11:53:41 PM

^^ no but the last minute is still fair game

12/5/2010 11:55:07 PM

yep

12/5/2010 11:55:41 PM

The rent is too damn late.

12/5/2010 11:56:09 PM

if they tell you the rent is due at 5 pm on the 5th

then it sounds like it's due at 5 pm on the 5th

[Edited on December 5, 2010 at 11:57 PM. Reason : my wallet don't take weekends off]

12/5/2010 11:57:10 PM

lol that looks like one of my female professors with a beard

they told me its due at the end of the business day, of which Sunday is not one of them and T-Thur they are open till 7:30pm

the SIGN says it was due at 5pm

[Edited on December 5, 2010 at 11:58 PM. Reason : ^]

12/5/2010 11:57:53 PM

Quote :

"is there an advantage to waiting til the last minute"

you get to sleep with ladies like this



[Edited on December 5, 2010 at 11:59 PM. Reason : d]

12/5/2010 11:58:24 PM

Quote :

"So I ask you TWW, how can 5pm be the end of a nonexistent business day?"

5pm on a weekend = 5pm on the friday before that weekend starts

12/6/2010 12:05:55 AM

you can't just put terms in a contract that aren't already covered by the plain language

"end of business on the 5th" can't magically turn into 5pm on the 3rd because you think it makes sense (or because thats what they MEANT to say)

also the grace period exists for the sole purpose of giving a few days in case the DUE date lands on a weekend or holiday, it has absolutely nothing to do with the late fee date, a five day grace period is a five day grace period always

[Edited on December 6, 2010 at 12:22 AM. Reason : .]

12/6/2010 12:18:11 AM

If it's due by the end of business on the 5th, and there is no business on the 5th, then if they wanted to push the point it is due the last time there is business before the 5th.

Actually, with NC tenant law it looks like you are probably fine in any case since there is a statutory 5 day provision.

That said, just drop it in the slot and with most landlords you will be fine. Since if they are out all day on Sunday they won't know whether it was before or after 5pm, and they can't do anything with your check before Monday morning anyways.



[Edited on December 6, 2010 at 12:28 AM. Reason : .]

12/6/2010 12:24:49 AM

actually, it was probably due on the first, but they graciously don't penalize you as long as it's in by the 5th

12/6/2010 12:26:19 AM

nvm

[Edited on December 6, 2010 at 12:29 AM. Reason : ..]

12/6/2010 12:27:31 AM

yeah rents are almost always due on the 1st and then you have the 5 day grace period (although technically a 5 day grace period would start at the end of 1st and go through the 6th but i learned a long time ago that people never count days right)

^ lol, i'm actually getting the end of business day part from the lease NOT from my personal preference, obviously if it just said the 5th it wouldnt be an issue, plz read carefully before replying

12/6/2010 12:30:49 AM

sounds like you got this all figured out.

what was the purpose of this thread?

12/6/2010 12:41:06 AM

it's not like this is the first time the 5th has ever fallen on a weekend. you knew they were going to be closed on the weekend so it's your responsibility to get it to them before they close their offices. you can't get mad at them if you didn't pay them when you were supposed to and they fine you.

12/6/2010 12:44:13 AM

I'm not really trying to read this thread, but I hope you didn't make a thread bitching if you haven't actually caught shit from your landlord IRL.

12/6/2010 12:47:16 AM

you've all just reminded me of an old boss who used to think that if i worked for 7 days straight i would end up on the same day as I started on the 7th day.

so now I ask TWW, if rent is due on the 1st (therefore not late), and I have a statutory 5 day period, doesn't that mean i have till end of business on the 6th?

due 1st
2nd - 1st day late
3
4
5
6 - 5th day late, end of grace period

[Edited on December 6, 2010 at 12:49 AM. Reason : the purpose of this thread, like most in chit chat, is to cure sheer boredom. ]

12/6/2010 12:48:26 AM

^^ i love arguing and my wife is asleep so too bad

[Edited on December 6, 2010 at 12:50 AM. Reason : f]

12/6/2010 12:50:44 AM

unless they count:

5:01pm on the 1st - 1st day since they won't receive until the next am
5:01
5:01
5:01
5:01pm on the 5th - 5th day, which it now is

12/6/2010 12:52:57 AM

so from 5:01pm on monday to 5:01pm to tuesday is 2 days?

12/6/2010 12:56:50 AM

Quote :

"if they tell you the rent is due at 5 pm on the 5th then it sounds like it's due at 5 pm on the 5th"

SO glad my apartment "allows" you to slide a check under the manager's door up until the morning of the 6th. They used to have a drop box, but got rid of after the remodel. There's been plenty of times where I didn't have the money (b/c paycheck didn't deposit on time)....just like. I'm contemplating if I should avoid late fee by submitting check, and hope it doesn't clear until Thursday OR wait until Thursday and pay online when I for sure have the money but have to pay a 5% late fee. *sigh*

12/6/2010 1:05:14 AM

that sucks, i'm just lazy

12/6/2010 1:07:39 AM

living paycheck to paycheck must suck

12/6/2010 1:07:57 AM

my strategy in college was just to devote parts of each of the 4 checks i got each month (2 if you get biweekly) to rent, that way i wasnt counting on one paycheck to make or break it

12/6/2010 1:12:03 AM

^^ It does, but ever since I got layed off from IBM, I've had to settle with that.

12/6/2010 1:14:42 AM

sorry to hear, in that case write a nice letter to the landlord?

12/6/2010 1:18:02 AM

If the due date lands on a day in which the office is closed, you may pay the next business day without penalty.

For instance:

Sales tax is due on the 20th of every month. If the 20th falls on a Saturday, then the due date is the 22nd.

Exemption:

When the contract explicitly states that you have to pay before the due date.

12/6/2010 3:12:35 AM

they'll take it with no hassle

minus your embarrassment, which should be considerable

they're just happy to be getting paid with at all

12/6/2010 3:53:22 AM

I honestly dont think this should be an issue. If rent is due on the first, then give it on the first.

Don't look at it as being due on the 5th.

12/6/2010 8:49:17 AM