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"Julius Hodge Which College Football program has displayed the least amount of "integrity" this season? UNC, Tenn, Miss St, Auburn, or #UNCheat?"

12/14/2010 11:18:38 PM

ahaha oh snap

[Edited on December 14, 2010 at 11:19 PM. Reason : f]

12/14/2010 11:18:57 PM

Tennessee

12/14/2010 11:19:22 PM

he's been dogging UNC for months on there, nothing new

12/14/2010 11:20:27 PM

Cool





but kinda sad that our 2nd most famous alum of the past 20 years is an Australian League flame out who's biggest accomplishments since leaving State are a diehard twitter following and a motherfucking scarf

12/14/2010 11:21:51 PM

dweedle is slow


who's the first?

[Edited on December 14, 2010 at 11:22 PM. Reason : d]

12/14/2010 11:22:02 PM

we still have JJ Hickson

12/14/2010 11:22:50 PM

^^^hickson, holt, mario williams and adrian wilson are prob all more nationally famous than hodge (define alum?)

[Edited on December 14, 2010 at 11:25 PM. Reason : nice troll though]

12/14/2010 11:25:01 PM

Rivers anyone

12/14/2010 11:25:27 PM

oh, thought he meant just bball alumni

12/14/2010 11:25:55 PM

^Manny Lawson too

12/14/2010 11:26:30 PM

Gavin Grant.

12/14/2010 11:27:38 PM

there are zero pics of Todd Fuller as a player at NC State ... closest thing i have found was him holding his jersey in a frame

12/14/2010 11:30:00 PM

not just any scarf

12/14/2010 11:35:57 PM

Don't underrate Hodge's tradition scarf contributions

12/14/2010 11:48:01 PM

Jules has @replied me a few times on Twitter

12/15/2010 2:20:46 AM

Can I have your autograph

12/15/2010 4:51:33 AM

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"hickson, holt, mario williams and adrian wilson are prob all more nationally famous than hodge (define alum?)"

But while AT State...only Rivers was bigger...and barely...because Hodge had PERSONALITY.

12/15/2010 8:04:56 AM

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" but kinda sad that our 2nd most famous alum of the past 20 years is an Australian League flame out who's biggest accomplishments since leaving State are a diehard twitter following and a motherfucking scarf"

the dude got shot fuckface. who's to say what he would or wouldn't have accomplished if that hadn't happened?

12/15/2010 8:15:48 AM

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"the dude got shot fuckface. who's to say what he would or wouldn't have accomplished if that hadn't happened?"

He wasn't doing much before he got shot and he hasn't done much since he fully recovered.

Hodge's game did not translate well to the NBA. His outside shot was suspect and he wasn't athletic enough to consistently create his own shot or guard above average shooting guards in the NBA.

He was a hard worker, but he had hit his ceiling unfortunately.

12/15/2010 8:24:48 AM

He was drafted by a team full of talented 2 guards/wing players and then got shot. I'm not convinced he would have stuck in the NBA as a star, or even get consistent playing time but circumstances do matter. He probably would have had to become a game manager/defensive stopper guard, maybe in a team running a triangle or princeton-style offense but unfortunately that didn't happen. Also I feel like his development may have actually been hurt by playing on D-league and Australian teams that needed him to be a star scorer, which wouldn't have been his role in the NBA.

I'll settle for having him as one of the better college players and shameless promoters of NC State we have ever had. Few players have been so beloved by Wolfpack Nation and fully reciprocated it as Julius.

12/15/2010 8:38:34 AM

^ exactly.


Hodge could've gone anywhere else and made an impact from the bench. Instead he went to a team & coach that collected guards like kid collect baseball cards, so he got stuck playing behind a number of players and was never even going to get a look.


As hard as he worked here, you don't think he was going to work that hard in the NBA? We're not talking about TA McClendon, here.

12/15/2010 9:01:08 AM

12/15/2010 9:02:53 AM

You have to be 7 feet tall, or be able to dunk from the FT line, or be able to hit a consistent jumper.

The jumper really kills him because it's something he theoretically can fix. By not fixing it, he cost himself an NBA career. That's unfortunate.

12/15/2010 9:29:07 AM

Point is his question was stupid, unless he is counting Lane Kiffin as still being at Tennessee...

12/15/2010 9:42:19 AM

sure it had nothing to do with Pearl having to get suspended for the first half of the conference games

12/15/2010 9:45:42 AM

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"As hard as he worked here, you don't think he was going to work that hard in the NBA? We're not talking about TA McClendon, here."

He had four years to change that horrible fucking frozen rope shot of his to get ready for the NBA, and it never happened. And apparently it didn't happen in his couple years in the league and over in Australia either.

And he wasn't going to get any more athletic.

When will you guys accept the fact that Hodge just wasn't made for the NBA?? I think the people that are making these comments don't watch the NBA. He MIGHT have gotten a little more play on another team, but all it would have done is given him an extra year or two riding the bench before that team would have dropped him for someone that had a little more potential to contribute more.

12/15/2010 9:50:33 AM

If Steve Blake could make a career in the NBA I have every reason to believe that Julius could have done the same under different circumstances.

12/15/2010 9:56:57 AM

^ I guess you didn't like Jules fucking your girl did you?

12/15/2010 9:57:15 AM

I don't even understand why people care what he did, didn't do, or might have done in the NBA. He was the fucking man at NCSU, and that's all that matters to me. Fuck the NBA.

12/15/2010 10:01:39 AM

uh oh, i think you just sent up the TreeTwista10symbol

silhouette of rasheed wallace on the clouds

12/15/2010 10:04:55 AM

Don't worry, Bobby will change his tone when these cats start to dominate the league in a few years

12/15/2010 10:07:42 AM

you know the economy is in the shitter when the NBA starts outsourcing.

12/15/2010 10:08:58 AM

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"If Steve Blake could make a career in the NBA I have every reason to believe that Julius could have done the same under different circumstances."

You mean this Steve Blake:

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"first ACC player to compile 1,000 points, 800 assists, 400 rebounds and 200 steals."

A think a lot of people could see that Steve Blake was going to be a decent NBA player as long as his shot continued to improve...which it did. He was one of the top point guards in college basketball during his career at Maryland and had good size for the PG position in the NBA.

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"I guess you didn't like Jules fucking your girl did you?"

You are a fucking retard. Take off your rose colored glasses. Hodge was one of my favorite NC State players (we were in the same graduating class, so I was there for every one of his home games at NC State) behind Corchiani and Grundy....but he was a less athletic, slightly smaller Josh Howard without a jumpshot. There was a very small chance he was going to be a consistently productive player in the NBA. Unfortunately it just didn't happen. If you think it was the "circumstances" that let to him not making it in the league...then you just don't know basketball...and you definitely don't know the NBA. He was a great player in college because he could use his size and length against smaller defenders and ball-handling ability against bigger defenders. He had NONE of those advantages in the NBA. The shooting guards are bigger and the small forwards are quicker. His only chance was to turn into a reliable three point shooter or a really good point guard...neither of which happened. In Australia his advantages in college were available to him again.

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"I don't even understand why people care what he did, didn't do, or might have done in the NBA. He was the fucking man at NCSU, and that's all that matters to me. Fuck the NBA."

Agreed. Dumb people frustrate me sometimes though.

[Edited on December 15, 2010 at 10:13 AM. Reason : .]

12/15/2010 10:12:11 AM

Actually I agree with you 100% I never saw him doing much but being a reserve in the NBA and when he was drafted by the nuggets (who really needed someone capable of hitting an outside shot at that point) the writing was on the wall. Nice to see I riled you up so much though

12/15/2010 10:24:16 AM

Its tough to go from being a star in college to a role player in the league. Some can handle it (Battier, Redick, Big Baby Davis) and some can't (Hodge, McCants, Morrison). Just because Player A is better than Player B in college doesn't mean he's going to be a better pro.

12/15/2010 10:29:46 AM

apparently he's improved his shot in recent years, maybe ill check out some Aussie youtube vids lol

12/15/2010 10:30:44 AM

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"Nice to see I riled you up so much though"

Never really get riled up on T-dub...just like to make people look dumb. Sometimes you have to argue with authority.

12/15/2010 10:58:15 AM

I don't understand why Blake's numbers at Maryland convinced you that he would succeed at the next level. Hodge had similar (probably better) numbers, the positions they played accounting for the differences. Hodge was a better shooter in college, too and obviously received more individual awards than Blake.

12/15/2010 11:05:10 AM

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"sure it had nothing to do with Pearl having to get suspended for the first half of the conference games"

Yeah, because he said "College Football"

12/15/2010 11:13:46 AM

Not a measure of the lack of integrity, but UGA won the Fulmer Cup this year

12/15/2010 11:17:18 AM

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"I don't understand why Blake's numbers at Maryland convinced you that he would succeed at the next level."

The poster stated:

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"If Steve Blake could make a career in the NBA I have every reason to believe that Julius could have done the same under different circumstances."

I was stating that Blake was just as good as Hodge was in college considering their positions. Hodge was a scorer and and average distributor while Blake was a great point guard and an average scorer. So saying that if Blake could have a career in the NBA than Julius could have done the same probably isn't a good parallel.

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"Hodge was a better shooter in college,"

Even before looking up the numbers, I called bullshit on this. And after looking them up:

Hodge college 3pt%: 34.2
Blake college 3pt%: 38

Hodge had a better FG% but he had a much bigger inside game. Hodge needed a better 3-point shot to succeed in the NBA, and it just didn't happen. Blake's outside shot was borderline good enough for him to be a role player in the NBA, and he's improved it a couple percentage points to where he's a very reliable backup and sometimes starter for a quality NBA team.

[Edited on December 15, 2010 at 11:19 AM. Reason : .]

12/15/2010 11:18:44 AM

^and Hodge may have done the same had he gotten a similar circumstance, ie drafted to a more appropriate team for him.

But let's be real here, STEVE BLAKE.

12/15/2010 11:28:20 AM

is someone defending steve blake?

12/15/2010 11:29:26 AM

I'm defending NBA Steve Blake. Fuck college Steve Blake...I hated that guy. But I'm mature enough to respect a player once he's left a college rival.

You guys know that Hodge could have been traded or picked up by another team that could have used his "skills"??

Blake has played for 6 different teams. Somebody thought they could use his skill set.

12/15/2010 11:36:02 AM

Interesting that no one's mentioned that Hodge and Blake were traded for one another.

12/15/2010 11:39:23 AM

Blake has carved out a nice career for himself. He was a douche in college, but to everyone but us, so was Hodge. Blake always had good size for his position, shot well from the outside and knew how to distribute.

He is remarkably efficient on a per minute basis, which is why he got his deal. Situation or luck has very little to do with it..

12/15/2010 12:48:59 PM

I agree with jbrick83. I never saw Hodge doing much in the NBA either. Hodge was good at a lot of things, but not great at anything. Blake was a great passer and had good size which got him in the league and he was able to stick. I wish Hodge would have had more of a chance, but oh well. I still love the guy.

12/15/2010 2:03:48 PM

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"Interesting that no one's mentioned that Hodge and Blake were traded for one another."

Why would it be anything other than a coincidence?? The Nuggets made the trade to clear cap space (that Hodge was taking up) and the Bucks did it to get some scoring punch (from none other than Earl Boykins).

That trade has nothing to do with this argument other than to strengthen my side in saying that Hodge was not coveted (only reason Bucks agreed to the trade is because Denver wouldn't have given them Boykins without including Hodge) and that Denver saw Blake as a reliable backup PG.

12/15/2010 2:10:14 PM

What the fuck are you even talking about

Who said the trade had anything to do with either player's value

I said it was interesting

Interesting, man

Interesting

12/15/2010 2:21:27 PM