Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
Davidson County farmer beats a Fox8 News cameraman with a stick for trespassing on his property. God I love North Carolina http://www.myfox8.com/news/wghp-story-cameraman-attacked-100106,0,7843751.story 1/7/2011 4:20:28 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
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Fareako Shitter Pilot 10238 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If there is nothing wrong with the horses then why didn't he invite the cameraman to get a closer look at the horses. That should have settled everything. In my opinion, by hitting the cameraman then that showed he had something to hide. The stick was probably intended for the horses because he thought they were the ones that told this lady that they weren't being treated right. Seems like if there wasn't a Davidson County then we would hardly have any news to read" |
[Edited on January 7, 2011 at 4:27 PM. Reason : These comments are golden]1/7/2011 4:24:49 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
^Can I come over and videotape your place then? Everything is squared away right?
[Edited on January 7, 2011 at 4:28 PM. Reason : I retract my statement now that you have quoted that...] 1/7/2011 4:26:55 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I wouldn't want some jackass walking around uninvited on my land either. I wouldn't beat him with a stick, but I'd damn sure give him a piece of my mind.
[Edited on January 7, 2011 at 4:27 PM. Reason : .] 1/7/2011 4:27:31 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
If that idiot redneck had any money i'd definitely take it from him if I were the cameraman. 1/7/2011 4:32:27 PM |
Wraith All American 27246 Posts user info edit post |
Is there any proof that the cameraman was on his land though? He said that he was on the side of the road but who knows. Still, that guy was freaking pissed off. He could just been like "Hey dude, get off my land, you're trespassing." But then again, logic doesn't apply to rednecks. 1/7/2011 4:34:00 PM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
On the video the guy is on the easement of a public road, perfectly legal to be there 1/7/2011 4:36:49 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think it matters. If someone steps in your yard and isn't threatening you, do you think that gives you the right to beat him with a large stick? 1/7/2011 4:38:17 PM |
Fareako Shitter Pilot 10238 Posts user info edit post |
I'd do it. 1/7/2011 4:40:06 PM |
Chance Suspended 4725 Posts user info edit post |
I'd fuck that bitch up if he took a swing of that shitty stick at me. 1/7/2011 4:43:37 PM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If someone steps in your yard and isn't threatening you, do you think that gives you the right to beat him with a large stick?" |
If they refuse to move and are completely unreasonable, then yes (although you would still prob get charged with something). I do think I should be able to physically move them somehow. However, unless they were doing something harmful... IRL I would just call the poh-leece like a sane person1/7/2011 4:48:33 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
^ too many variables, we aren't really disagreeing here. You can see in that video that the redneck was NOT behaving reasonably, which is why he was charges with 2 felonies. 1/7/2011 4:51:55 PM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, but I would disagree with charges if the reporter was in the middle of the dude's field and refused to leave after several warnings. The way it happened in the video, I am totally on the reporters side. 1/7/2011 4:53:06 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
According to the video comments, that man is an alcoholic and possibly addicted to pills. You can throw the sane reasoning argument out the window 1/7/2011 4:59:06 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "According to the video comments" |
Poor cameraman probably was concerned for how much that equipment cost the station, cause unless you have a good reason like not wanted to get fired for dropping a $10K camera who else stands around and lets anyone get more than one lick on you with a little stick like that? At least now he has a tape he can sell for $500 to trutv for their next "outrageous: caught on camera" special.1/8/2011 9:19:41 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
"he's got this new hickory stick..." 1/8/2011 9:55:49 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Is the video admissible in court ? Clearly he didn't want to be filmed. This goes back to my support of Texas trespassing laws but if the guy crossed a fence or entered any sort of access restricted area on someone's property I would want him to know he could lose his life for it just to deter them from doing it. I don't think I could/would shoot someone but violation of privacy and property bothers me and I think shot on site laws would stop a lot of stupid crap from happening, from vandalism to robbery. I think if I owned a farm and I saw someone filming on it without permission, I'd be pretty upset but only after they crossed a fence or something. 1/9/2011 6:07:45 AM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If they refuse to move and are completely unreasonable, then yes (although you would still prob get charged with something)." |
"No" is the correct answer. Even if an individual is stealing from your property, so long as they present no threat you CANNOT legally hurt them. The only exception to this is to prevent a forced entry, assuming you are INSIDE the home (From my interpretation of the law, this does not count if you're outside the home preventing them from entering). If you are inside the home and someone is in the process of forcing entry, you may use lethal force to prevent said entry. Once they're in the home, if you haven't shot them yet and they say, "I'm not here to hurt you, I just came here to steal some stuff", you have no legal right to lay a finger on them in NC.
Quote : | " I don't think I could/would shoot someone but violation of privacy and property bothers me and I think shot on site laws would stop a lot of stupid crap from happening, from vandalism to robbery." |
Trust me, I'm all for being able to shoot robbers and vandals, but a shoot on sight law is downright asking for slaughter in some places. Imagine someone like this guy, who thinks that an easement is HIS PROPERTY. If he knows he has the right to shoot someone simply for stepping on his property, you damn well better believe he will do so if he THINKS you've crossed the line. Even if he isn't in the right, he can't take the bullet back later. He will shoot you because he believes, at the time, that you are on his property and he knows he's allowed to shoot trespassers.
The problem here is that the simple misinterpretation of property lines on your part OR SOMEONE ELSE'S (Like this guy) could easily get you killed were such a law to be enacted. Even I, the psychotic gun and knife freak, can admit that something of that nature is going WAY too far. Legalizing shooting someone to stop theft and/or vandalism, perhaps. Legalizing shooting someone for stumbling across an imaginary line which may not be clearly marked or even exactly known by the property owner? Think about minor property disputes and property line fuckups. Both owners may believe some strip of land is theirs. All it takes is one crazy owner thinking they have the law on their side in such a matter. Such a law is just asking for trouble in my opinion. Not that it can't happen when it's illegal, we all know that's not the case. However, I do feel that legalizing the killing of non-violent, non-crime committing (Other than the simple act of coming onto property which isn't theirs) trespassers is an extremely dangerous move.
[Edited on January 9, 2011 at 6:30 AM. Reason : T]1/9/2011 6:17:29 AM |
Opstand All American 9256 Posts user info edit post |
So glad I moved away from Davidson County the first chance I got... 1/9/2011 9:29:49 AM |
BIGcementpon Status Name 11318 Posts user info edit post |
Another one of the photogs at FOX8 had this on his facebook wall...
1/9/2011 11:25:30 AM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
OK looking at this from a different angle,
Google is facing tons of lawsuits right now for all the crap they shot (and picked up on wifi) when they did street view. If you are taking pictures for a commercial (or personal) reason of my land, theres a good argument of it being trespassing. And as sumfoo1 stated, the guy has a right not to be filmed. TV crew is facing a lawsuit right there as its already been put on the news.
Easements... theres a lot of flak on them always anyway. Mostly as the state/local govt claims them but wont take care of them. 1/9/2011 12:11:17 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
CALL THE LOL!! 1/9/2011 1:57:05 PM |
State Oz All American 1897 Posts user info edit post |
meth is a hell of a hillbilly drug
also, this person would never let this type of trash roam free in Davidson County:
1/9/2011 2:09:44 PM |