How in the hell can the majority of you watch and salivate over shows like the Bachelor? I'm sitting here at work listening to several female coworkers freaking out over what happened in the last episode of this show. You know it's not real, right? You know it's scripted, right? Yet some of you argue (vehemently) like you really believe that it is real. Why? More importantly, what is good about these kinds of shows? It's just a show about a bunch of semi-rich, attractive women that compete to see who can be the bigger whore for a man that is usually extremely wealthy. What is the fascination with this? Why do you keep watching when deep down, all of you know how fucking retarded this show is?

Help me understand.

1/13/2011 5:31:04 PM

tl;dr

saw "bachelor" and stopped reading

i've never seen that show and will never see that show

i do like jersey shore though. and sometimes teen mom. judge me, I DARE YOUUU

1/13/2011 5:32:01 PM

Quote :

"tl;dr saw "bachelor" and stopped reading i've never seen that show and will never see that show i do like jersey shore though. and sometimes teen mom. judge me, I DARE YOUUU"

1/13/2011 5:32:54 PM

The people on jersey shore should be arrested for assault on the intelligence of America.

1/13/2011 5:33:16 PM

I like millionaire matchmaker

quite a bit actually.

1/13/2011 5:34:19 PM

tl;dr

saw "bachelor" and stopped reading

i've never seen that show and will never see that show

i don't watch reality TV like jersey shore though. and sometimes teen mom. judge me, I DARE YOUUU

1/13/2011 5:35:26 PM

let's have another thread where we all argue about Jersey Shore.

1/13/2011 5:35:37 PM

I can't stand reality TV as a whole because its...



*SPOILERS*














NOT REAL

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 5:37 PM. Reason : this thread was not directed at the abortion, Jersey Shore, but at the Bachelor.]

1/13/2011 5:36:22 PM

i've never seen the bachelor

i will admit i was vehemently in love with flavor of love 2 (not the first one, but the second one...with buckeey, and toasteee, and krazy, and deelishis etc )

ive actually seen a few of those episodes more than once.


why? i have no earthly clue.

1/13/2011 5:37:58 PM

So you are basically telling me that women have no idea why they watch these shows but that they somehow get brainwashed or hypnotized by some unseen force and like them for no explainable reason.

I'm actually not entirely disappointed with this answer even though I am more confused than ever.

I think this just furthers the point that ALL women are crazy in some form or fashion and don't try to comprehend it because the male intelligence cannot come to grips with it.


Thanks Joie



[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 5:44 PM. Reason : user]

1/13/2011 5:43:03 PM

ahahahahahhaha


i mean i knew it wasn't real, but the part of me that LOVED flavor of love was how freaking TRASHY those girls were.
even if it was all a facade, it was just....wow.

Quote :

"but that they somehow get brainwashed or hypnotized by some unseen force and like them for no explainable reason"

thats a little harsh don't ya think?
you can apply that to any tv show really.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 5:44 PM. Reason : ]

1/13/2011 5:44:21 PM

stick with your first answer, I like it better.

well i dont mean they willingly become subdued by the show, I'm just saying that there is some unexplainable phenomenon that makes women love these shows for reasons they can't explain.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 5:45 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2011 5:44:58 PM

what...that i didn't know why i liked it?

i mean why do you like any tv show? sports included.

by watching it you get nothing done and you more than likely don't really learn anything of substance. (documentaries and the like are excluded)


^oh gosh...keep in mind i fucking hate reality shows

that just happened to be the only one i ever got into

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 5:47 PM. Reason : sfdsdf]

1/13/2011 5:46:30 PM

she got ya there

1/13/2011 5:47:07 PM

are you using feminine wiles on me?

1/13/2011 5:48:14 PM

im not trying to get him


im just saying that unless he watches all documentaries (which is a possibility) its sorta the pot calling the kettle black.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM. Reason : not at all my dear ]



[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 5:50 PM. Reason : i do believe that reality shows are more or less dumb ]

1/13/2011 5:48:36 PM

What type of shows do you watch Volcom?

1/13/2011 5:52:44 PM

Wait, I know why I watch certain shows. I watch comedies to laugh, sci-fi because it's the opposite of reality (most of the time), UFC fights because I like to see organized ass whippins, and so on.

However, I don't pretend that reality shows are actually real because they are so horribly and obviously scripted that you have to be a moron or someone in huge denial to think they are real. The majority of women I come across that watch the Bachelor swear that its real and it just makes me punch myself in the face.


I don't watch much but I watch the following:

Always Sunny in Philadelphia
X-Files (on netflix)
UFC whenever it comes on
Family Guy
The Cleveland Show
Futurama

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2011 5:54:18 PM

but you asked "How in the hell can the majority of you watch and salivate over shows like the Bachelor"


not whether or not they think its real

im sure you recite scripted jokes in these comedy shows

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM. Reason : s]

1/13/2011 5:55:14 PM

n/m

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2011 5:56:08 PM

of course, BigHitSunday

I don't understand how reciting lines in a show for comedic value is the same as pretending that a fake reality show is real and therefore awesome because its real and that the women on the show have truly heartfelt love for the millionaire bachelor or whatever he is for geniune purposes and not because a writer wrote down a script for them.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 5:59 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:01 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2011 5:57:58 PM

im just sayin what does it matter that they are excited about a scripted reality? its obviously more entertaining than you are on the job.

You are acting as if they believe its real.

I have a heartfelt love for pootie tang and I have a heartfelt love for shawn michaels, I also know that those bodies of work are not real, nonetheless they have entertained me endlessly and I feel they are worthy of discussion amongst other fans.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:01 PM. Reason : d]

1/13/2011 5:59:51 PM

I am asking women to explain the reasons they like these kinds of shows.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:05 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2011 6:01:39 PM

Reality TV: Pro Wrasslin' for women

1/13/2011 6:03:02 PM

im a knight.

1/13/2011 6:03:32 PM

Ok so I just asked my coworker why she loved the show so much.

Her response:


Her: "Because its about finding true love and its exciting."

Me: You know its fake, right?

Her: No it's not.

Me: How do you know?

Her: Girls know these things.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:04 PM. Reason : LOGIC ALARM LOGIC ALARM!!!!!!!]

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:04 PM. Reason : BRAIN FAILING BRAIN FAILING]

1/13/2011 6:05:03 PM

Quote :

"let's have another thread where we all argue about Jersey Shore."

YES!!!


and its not like men don't do stupid things that have no purpose like sit around for hours on end shooting at things on a screen that are

*SPOILERS*













NOT REAL.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:05 PM. Reason : lol @ my retarded spacing]

1/13/2011 6:05:26 PM

I never said that men don't do stupid things. I asked why women pretend that a fake show is real when they know its not and have a very HARD time admitting it.




Call of Duty is awesome and don't you blaspheme. ITS REAL DAMN IT!

1/13/2011 6:06:43 PM

hahaha

WELL I CANT HELP YOU BECAUSE I DONT WATCH THE BACHELOR AND I KNOW JERSEY SHORE IS FAKE

but i watch it anyway. because i like it ok!!!!!!

1/13/2011 6:07:23 PM

I'm judging you Kat.

1/13/2011 6:07:29 PM

See that is a good enough reason for me.

At least you have come to terms with your craziness.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM. Reason : or are you just saying that so I will leave you alone? YOU USIN FEMININE WILES ON ME?!?!!! ]

1/13/2011 6:07:59 PM

so i took a shower and thought about this (ahahaha wow really? )

and i think i may have an answer. mind you i was never a psychology major so this is just a bunch of ramblings from my head. forgive some of the blanket statements.

you basically have three kinds of realty shows
sports, "realty shows", and documentaries.
for ease sake im going to assume that equal amount of the sexes watch the nonromantic reality shows (iron chef, the apprentace etc etc) and focus on just the romantic ones (the bachelor etc) because im sure the major base is female.
sports of course will be most a male base.

why do guys watch sports? they like the adrenaline and watching two guys fight over a ball ... sorta analogous to male dominance. i mean when you get mad i bet most of you don't tackle your boss right? its an outlet for male aggression. when your team wins you get this "my pack won" mentality, you like it. hell some guys may even envision what they would do on the field.
and sports are easy. (from a programming standpoint)

women are built differently.i imagine that most women are predispositioned for romance and things that are not very attainable with the average guy (i ain't bashin on ya'll, some just have too high expectations!). so girls watch this program and swoon over the dates and whatnot because theyre just so sweet and romantic.

the problem lies in that if you were to have an ACTUAL, unscripted reality romance show....it would not be NEARLY as interesting. and girls sorta get jipped because of this. i can imagine a real romantic reality show now
"So, what you wanna do?" "I don't know" "I got you some flowers"
she shows the other girls
"Oh those are so pretty"
there probably wouldn't be any fights and it would be passive aggressive bitching and just boring.

girls like emotional drama much more than physical drama


so while boys are yelling "I COULD HAVE MADE THAT PASS"
girls yell "I WOULD HAVE KISSED HIM!"


and just for giglles:
get two males on a field, have them wrestle and guys will come and yell from the sidelines.
you can get two females on a field and the same thing would probably happen.
get two males on a romantic reality show girls would watch
two girls and guys would watch.

lucky bastards



and i think i just spent wayyyyyyy too much time on this.

1/13/2011 6:14:53 PM

daaaaaamn Joie got all smart and shit

that's the explanation I was looking for



so basically girls don't admit that the show is scripted because it would take away the fantasy of marrying a rich millionaire playboy.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:18 PM. Reason : I guess that makes sense.......... sorta.............................. damn women are crazy]



[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:20 PM. Reason : grammar]

1/13/2011 6:16:24 PM

Bravo Bravo

1/13/2011 6:17:56 PM

no shit are you serious?!?!?!



ahahahahaha i totally just kinda rambled off.

Quote :

" so basically girls don't admit that the show is scripted because it was take away the fantasy of marrying a rich millionaire playboy."

yeah i think thats it. because there is really no such thing of a program that could do that for real

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:19 PM. Reason : :shrug:]

1/13/2011 6:18:17 PM

do you think i can put this on my resume'?

1/13/2011 6:18:43 PM

yes

very impressive

1/13/2011 6:19:14 PM

lol. i should have been studying the past hour and im almost glad i didnt.

1/13/2011 6:20:30 PM

well played Joie

well played

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:21 PM. Reason : you might be the least craziest girl that I don't really know except through an internet forum]

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:22 PM. Reason : god what is wrong with my grammar today!!?!!]

1/13/2011 6:20:31 PM

I watch reality TV because no matter how bad my day is or how awful things are going in my life - I can watch a reality show and say "hey, at least I'm not THAT idiot."

And for the record, I also hate the Bachelor. Most shows like that are a little too extreme on the stupidity scale for me because they try to be pass it off as real. I prefer the really really uber ridiculous like Flavor of Love or Rock of Love (when it comes to dating shows).

1/13/2011 6:20:51 PM

so you watch them for mockery and comedic value


i like that



[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:22 PM. Reason : grammar fail again]

1/13/2011 6:22:23 PM

Quote :

"You know it's not real, right? You know it's scripted, right? Yet some of you argue (vehemently) like you really believe that it is real."

To be perfectly fair, I have watched movies -- things not even disguising themselves as nonfiction -- and then argued vehemently with my friends about it afterwords, as though it were real. 95.7% of the time the arguments revolve around what should have been done during whichever zombie apocalypse we're talking about, but you get the idea.

The rest of your post is spot on, however. The premise of "Bachelor" and others like it are inane. What kind of sad, pathetic person wants to watch a bunch of people pretending to be so desperate for male attention that they are willing to compete with a bunch of whores to get the interest of a complete stranger and an anonymous audience.

Oh my God. That's it. Women watch it because it is exactly what they do in real life: compete with whores to get the interest and attention of a complete stranger and an anonymous audience.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:24 PM. Reason : to be fair, we compete with slobbering morons to get the attention of women, but no anonymous audien]

1/13/2011 6:23:21 PM

flavor and rock of love are extremes

i could equate them to hells kitchen, its obvious that these guys are largely brought in to be made a fool of as opposed to like top chef and chopped

i think millionaire matchmaker is a much more class show of that genre of romance reality, but it doesnt have that continuous character development which like joie said could only be fostered through some level of editing and scripting

not many people on the millionaire show i would imagine are very interesting, probably just work alot.

1/13/2011 6:23:35 PM

^^^exactly.

For example, I used to watch Celebrity Fit Club and eat ice cream. All while laughing to myself "you have millions of dollars and now you're fat and miserable because your dad didn't support your career or some gay shit... I have 45 bucks in my checking account, but I have ice cream and I LOVE MY LIFE! ahahahaha I rule"

1/13/2011 6:26:25 PM

Quote :

"I watch reality TV because no matter how bad my day is or how awful things are going in my life - I can watch a reality show and say "hey, at least I'm not THAT idiot.""

i too have watched shows for this reason (ps i <3 you L...where you been boo?)



and dont judge me for my multiple grammar fails V0LC0M

1/13/2011 6:26:40 PM

lmao at Grumpy


no i wasn't judging you Joie

every time i have to go back and edit my post for grammar reasons, I throw something about it in the "Reason for edit."

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:29 PM. Reason : aslkdjfsalkdjfgrammarsdfsafdfasfd]

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:31 PM. Reason : WASNT]

1/13/2011 6:27:47 PM

^^

I've been nursing a broken rib

And working 50 billion hours a week

And going to school

1/13/2011 6:30:00 PM

fix dat rib girl.

and then we can go get some.


(seriously ribs sound so good right now)


ps-
"used to watch Celebrity Fit Club and eat ice cream. All while laughing to myself "you have millions of dollars and now you're fat and miserable because your dad didn't support your career or some gay shit... I have 45 bucks in my checking account, but I have ice cream and I LOVE MY LIFE! ahahahaha I rule"
can i quote this on facebook please?

1/13/2011 6:31:45 PM

Quote :

"I watch reality TV because no matter how bad my day is or how awful things are going in my life - I can watch a reality show and say "hey, at least I'm not THAT idiot." "

YES

i thought this was pretty obvious

i guess men aren't as smart as they think are now ARE THEY?

1/13/2011 6:33:08 PM

ok time to finally go home from work


Joie, begonias, thanks for the crazy but clever insight on something that has really baffled me.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:34 PM. Reason : men may not be as smart as they think they are but ALL women are batshit crazy is some way]

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:34 PM. Reason : gnite!]

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 6:35 PM. Reason : FUCKING GRAMMAR]

1/13/2011 6:33:49 PM