FykalJpn All American 17209 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Here's the basic idea. People suffering from the hardy C. diff bacteria are generally prescribed a powerful antibiotic. Problem is, the drugs don't just kill the invaders; they also wipe out much of the beneficial bacteria in the gut. With these "good" microorganisms out of the way, any C. diff stragglers have a much easier time regrouping for a second bout of illness. If there were some way to respawn the beneficial bacteria in the intestines, such re-infections could be warded off. Some people, like Ruth, turn to expensive probiotic supplements. (At one point she was spending $350 on them every week.) But in certain cases, a patient who has lost nearly all of her good bacteria will find it nearly impossible to get them back. A fecal transplant seems to work as a sort of mega-probiotic, allowing doctors to repopulate a patient's intestines with the appropriate microorganisms by placing a robust sample directly into her gut.
The donor takes a stool softener the night before and then gives a full morning bowel movement to the recipient, who takes it to a doctor for screening. It's important to make sure that the sample doesn't contain any parasites or other pathogens, such as hepatitis, salmonella, or HIV. Once the transplant material has been cleared, the doctor mixes it with saline to make about a pint of liquid with the consistency of a milkshake. This is pumped into the patient's colon using a colonoscope or endoscope, or siphoned into the stomach via a nasogastric tube. (The latter method is considered more dangerous, since there's a chance feces will end up in the lungs. Colonoscopies carry their own risk of bowel perforation.)
And then there's the do-it-yourself crowd. All you need is a bottle of saline, a 2-quart enema bag, and one standard kitchen blender. Mike Silverman, a University of Toronto physician who wrote up a guide to homespun fecal transplants for the journal Clinical Gastroenterology and Hepatology, says it's entirely safe to do the procedure this way, provided that a doctor gets involved at some point to screen the donor sample. He felt he needed to draw up the instructions because administrators at his hospital wouldn't allow their doctors to perform a procedure that hasn't been validated in a large, peer-reviewed study." |
http://www.slate.com/id/2282768/pagenum/all/
sounds exciting! 2/3/2011 5:49:42 PM
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Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
What's the going rate for donors?
Would they object to a direct anus-to-anus transfer, aka a Manhattan Transfer? 2/3/2011 5:51:19 PM
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BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
Human Centipede 2/3/2011 5:51:52 PM
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WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
maybe some poop yogurt, something like Craptivia 2/3/2011 5:59:15 PM
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The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
ibthumancentipede 2/3/2011 6:03:10 PM
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Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
no, no you weren't 2/3/2011 6:04:07 PM
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jataylor All American 6652 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "there's a chance feces will end up in the lungs" |
taking the phrase "your breath smells like shit" to another level 2/3/2011 6:13:26 PM
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Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
BHS nailed it. 2/3/2011 6:26:27 PM
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sylvershadow All American 7051 Posts user info edit post |
my grandma just got over c. diff... it got bad fast. Not sure what treatment she did. But I'm all for probiotics. Fecal transplant is kinda...umm.. gross tho :/ 2/3/2011 7:12:14 PM
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packgirl15 Veteran 357 Posts user info edit post |
 2/3/2011 7:13:04 PM
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Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What's the going rate for donors? " |
ahaha 2/3/2011 7:24:47 PM
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merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I just took a shit. I'll take $20 for it. 2/3/2011 8:01:32 PM
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paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
Haaaaaahahahahahah awesome 2/3/2011 8:16:58 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53288 Posts user info edit post |
http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/20/8419332-sounds-gross-works-great-fecal-transplants-cure-nasty-c-diff-infections 10/24/2011 7:21:30 PM
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ALkatraz All American 11299 Posts user info edit post |
/FecalJapan
[Edited on October 24, 2011 at 7:37 PM. Reason : -] 10/24/2011 7:37:32 PM
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BubbleBobble BACK IN DA HIGH LIFE 114662 Posts user info edit post |
why do I want to read about this 10/24/2011 7:56:19 PM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
this is why the appendix is in fact a very important organ. 10/24/2011 7:56:55 PM
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0EPII1 All American 42569 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "or siphoned into the stomach via a nasogastric tube. (The latter method is considered more dangerous, since there's a chance feces will end up in the lungs." |
aside from that risk, what about the fact that you will end up with shit in your stomach?
food is supposed to be in the stomach, not shit. shit is supposed to be in the colon. 10/25/2011 3:47:15 AM
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begonias warning: not serious 19581 Posts user info edit post |
oh wtf!!!!  10/25/2011 4:45:43 AM
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0EPII1 All American 42569 Posts user info edit post |
can't shit in the stomach also cause serious problems and illnesses from the small amounts of bad bacteria in the poop? 10/25/2011 4:47:53 AM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
well shit 10/25/2011 5:09:52 AM
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BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
I remember this being a freakonomics podcast a few months back.
http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/03/04/freakonomics-radio-the-power-of-poop/
I was all like
but, i guess if i had some incurable auto-immune disorder, i'd probably be willing to try anything. 10/25/2011 8:30:30 AM
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wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
I thought this was why doctors told you to eat yogurt while on antibiotics  10/25/2011 8:32:23 AM
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bottombaby IRL 21958 Posts user info edit post |
This was on the news a year or so ago and I happened to catch an interview with the doc and a person who actually did this. The donor was a family member, so sorry for all y'all lookin' to make money off your poop.
If I was really suffering, I would do it. I'm sure that after being sick long enough, you'll do anything to feel normal again. However, you'd think that there would be a less yucky way to repopulate the gut with healthy bacteria. But I guess you can't wash all of the poop out of the poop leaving just the bacteria. 
[Edited on October 25, 2011 at 8:37 AM. Reason : ^uhm, we're talking about some really powerful antibiotics] 10/25/2011 8:36:47 AM
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0EPII1 All American 42569 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But I guess you can't wash all of the poop out of the poop leaving just the bacteria." |
Actually, that's a good point.
Instead of taking probiotic capsules from the mouth, why not use them as suppositories? I mean, the bacteria are readily available, so why don't they pack them into larger capsules to be taken from the other end? And I am not talking about probiotics you can get at GNC, but pharmaceutical grade probiotics, which are really powerful. Yes, poop contains a whole lot of bacteria more than a capsule, but I don't see the problem with inserting several capsules daily (each containing upto 50 billion live cells) for a few days.
A lot better than involving blenders and poop... 
Blenders and poop don't mix
[Edited on October 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM. Reason : ] 10/25/2011 10:09:46 AM
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AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
Ass to ass!
[Edited on October 25, 2011 at 10:20 AM. Reason : ] 10/25/2011 10:19:01 AM
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