Need to contact owner of a parking lot, have their name and address. i can go over to their house if I need to, but i would rather call.

Anyone know of a way to do this?

i'm going to stick it to a towing company

2/15/2011 9:01:44 PM

uh, post the parking lot info.

2/15/2011 9:04:07 PM

Carol T Lea
302 Shepherd St
27607

From the deed for 302 Shepherd I could also use a contact for N P & Martha T Lea

As a personal note so I don't have to find it later
Raleigh City Manager- (919) 996-3070

[Edited on February 15, 2011 at 9:10 PM. Reason : .]

2/15/2011 9:06:58 PM

ITT: You are not going to stick it to a towing company.

2/15/2011 9:12:10 PM

2/15/2011 9:14:27 PM

Well I've already gotten my $50 back, I'm just trying to figure out why a city of raleigh public parking sign directs people to a 24hour towing private lot. The sign says public parking after 5pm, I'm trying to figure out from the owner if they made a deal to allow this that no one told the towing company about.

nevermind, found it. thank you internet

[Edited on February 15, 2011 at 9:22 PM. Reason : .]

2/15/2011 9:14:29 PM

So how are you going to stick it to a towing company if this is the city of Raleigh's oversight?

2/15/2011 9:27:55 PM

well i was being a little facetious. like i said, i already got my money back. now i want to find out what the deal is so someone can fix it so no one else gets hit.

2/15/2011 9:29:25 PM

Look at you being the good Samaritan.

2/15/2011 9:29:58 PM

i'm just not the type to roll over and take it

2/15/2011 9:30:48 PM

But you already didn't take it. So now why do you care? The city of Raleigh isn't going to give you anything.

2/15/2011 9:31:23 PM

Are you being serious? I am trying to help prevent students from getting taken for a ride and you have a problem with that?

What I assume happened is that the City made a deal with the owner after the hillsborough st renovations to use the lot for public parking after 5 and the management company never told the contracted parking enforcement company.

So what I want from the city is clarification if that is actually a public parking lot after 5 or if the sign is there by mistake. If the sign is there by mistake I would like the city to remove it. I will ask the property owner the same questions, and if they have made a deal to use the lot as public parking after 5 I will let the parking enforcement company know and will ask the owner to do the same. I also have contact information from a couple other people who got hit and they asked that I let them know what I found out.

But this is the wolfweb, so you all have to be contrarian even if it means supporting a towing company

2/15/2011 9:37:59 PM

Quote :

"But this is the wolfweb, so you all have to be contrarian even if it means supporting a towing company "

Now you are learning.

2/15/2011 10:11:37 PM

combo breaker.

2/15/2011 10:13:44 PM

well the owner does not know of any agreement with the city of raleigh, talked to her this morning. she was very upset that no one had let her know.

so now i just need answers from the lessee (McLaurin Parking Company) and the city

2/16/2011 9:06:25 AM

My Dad once told me -- "Son, don't ever call me to bail you out of jail, unless you kicked a tow truck driver's ass."

True story.

[Edited on February 16, 2011 at 9:17 AM. Reason : oooo 400th post...weee]

2/16/2011 9:16:35 AM

Quote :

"Hello, I am writing to get some clarification on the parking lot you lease from Carol T Lea, located between Logan Ct. and Chamberlain St. The lot currently has a City of Raleigh public parking sign directing people to the lot as public parking on Weekdays 5PM- 3AM and Weekends (see attached picture). Yesterday many students were ticketed and booted after 5PM despite an apparent parking agreement with the city. I spoke to Ms. Lea this morning who was not aware of any parking agreement and am writing to get clarification on any parking agreement you made, as lessee of the property, with the City of Raleigh; and why you were ticketing and booting people despite the sign. I will also speak to the Office of the City Manager to get clarification from the city. Thank You, Robert Howard"

2/16/2011 10:16:31 AM

I, too, have been screwed over by a towing company

2/16/2011 10:18:09 AM

I'll be interested to hear the outcome of this. Pretty messed up if Raleigh put a sign up with no agreement established with the lot owner.

2/16/2011 10:48:52 AM

2/16/2011 11:04:04 AM

The reply was pretty much exactly what I expected:

Quote :

"Good Morning Robert, Thank you for your email inquiring about this parking facility. I appreciate your goal of seeking clarity. The City places way-finding signs on public streets seeking to guide motorists. The Logan Street Parking Lot is a Public Parking Facility. Public Parking does not infer Free Parking. Multiple signs throughout the lot state the parking fee. This has been a Public Parking Lot for over a decade. McLaurin Parking Company leases this property from Mrs. Lea and the City of Raleigh requiring significant payments each month. McLaurin Parking Company was responsible for making property improvements including pavement, lighting, landscaping, water management, etc. The parking charge is for parking 24 hrs/ 7days per week. We have a $ 2.00 rate for nights and weekend days. This parking area has been of service to a great number of students needing parking for a few hours each day who find this location convenient to their destination. We invite you to reply if you have further questions and interest Kindest Regards, Steve McLaurin Vice-President McLaurin Parking Company "

To which I replied:

Quote :

"Thank you for the reply. I believe that the confusion starts from the hours posted on the public parking sign . It is not unreasonable to assume that the sign infers free parking between those hours. If the sign was simply directing people to a lot, a lot that is open and available 24/7, the posted hours of 5pm-3am are confusing and superfluous. I understand that the lot has been around for over a decade, I have used it regularly since 2002, but the public sign is a new addition and comes at a time following the Hillsborough St. renovation when the Hillsborough Street Partnership has made efforts to increase public parking to support local businesses. An additional cause of confusion is the poorly operating payment machine. Many others and I have been parking in the lot for 6:00 classes all semester without any ticket or fee. For the first two weeks of classes (at least on Tues and Thurs) the payment machine was not operating. This added to the assumption that the lot was public parking after 5pm. Additionally, yesterday the machine was not printing tickets, leading a line of people to give up and assume that there was no charge after 5pm. I would suggest that people who are booted yesterday be refunded the $50 removal fee because of these inconsistencies. To clear up any future confusion, I am going to forward this matter to Sharon Banks, the Community Relations Administrator with the Office of the City Manager and with your help maybe we can have the public parking sign removed or changed to reflect the 24/7 hours of operation and predatory nature of the lot. -Robert"

2/16/2011 12:47:13 PM

I like your style.

2/16/2011 12:58:43 PM

set em up

2/16/2011 1:02:36 PM

2/16/2011 1:05:11 PM

I just got off the phone with Sharon Banks. She was very interested and concerned and has copied me in on her email to the city's parking administrator and is going to give me a call with his feedback. She agreed that the sign is very confusing and has had multiple complaints about that lot but this was the first she had heard about the sign. I think I'll be able to have it removed or changed, cause fuck if any of my tax money is going to a sign to advertise such a predatory company.

2/16/2011 1:24:55 PM

Very good work.

2/16/2011 1:55:36 PM

Quote :

"We are contacting the City Parking Administrator about the hours posted on the City Sign to seek removed of the posted hours. This action is in progress. I respectively take exception to your statement about any predatory nature. The signs are clear and many within the parking lot. Steve McLaurin"

he respectively takes exception

2/16/2011 1:56:45 PM

[Edited on February 16, 2011 at 2:06 PM. Reason : PIZZA?!]

2/16/2011 2:05:43 PM

you have too much free time

2/16/2011 2:31:31 PM

GG rbrthwrd. If only more people would show a little initiative to make their surroundings better.

2/16/2011 2:44:12 PM

Yeah, and it doesn't really take any time. Just getting to this point might have been a bitch before the internet, but I can find everything I need and write a few emails between things at work. The phone calls were the most time-consuming thing but I just worked on some stuff while I talked and it didn't take anything out of my day.

2/16/2011 2:56:23 PM

rbrthwrd gets my seal of approval for looking out for our fellow alumni and students

[Edited on February 16, 2011 at 3:00 PM. Reason : can't forget current people lol]

2/16/2011 2:59:50 PM

if you guys like this you should see the email and phone logs from when i got out of my t-mobile contract because I was working on a project that wasn't in the coverage area. Lots of stuff like this:

-Do you have proof that you are not in the coverage area?
-Well I am living in hotels for the next 6 months, and i'm not sure if my apartment back home is out of coverage
-Well can you have your bills sent to the hotel?
-Can I just send you my hotel bill?
-No, we can not accept that. You have to forward your bills to the hotel.
-OK, so you can accept a bill with the knowledge that it was sent to a hotel but can not accept direct proof that I live in this hotel?
-Exactly
-And it doesn't bother you how illogical this is?
-What?
...

In the end though, I got out of the contract. If you don't mind being put on hold and getting transfered a lot or you can write an email that doesn't make you look retarded, you can usually get a lot done.

2/16/2011 3:09:49 PM

Quote :

"The City has stated the sign with the 5:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. is a City error in placing this sign at this location. It is slated to be removed or covered. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. Steve McLaurin"

just got confirmation from the city, new sign has been ordered and will be installed asap

[Edited on February 16, 2011 at 4:25 PM. Reason : .]

2/16/2011 4:07:51 PM

rbrthwrd is quickly becoming one of my favorite TWWers

2/16/2011 5:03:53 PM

^

2/16/2011 6:22:22 PM

apparently some (one?) of the signs leading to the lot has changed it's wording, but not the one I mentioned. I will follow up with the city and find out what the hold-up is.

3/24/2011 12:34:04 PM