too much or too little?

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"RALEIGH, N.C. — A Raleigh man has been sentenced to more than 40 years in prison on federal weapons and drug charges, U.S. Attorney George B. Holding announced Thursday. After a two-day trial in November, a jury found Christopher Stephone Cobb, 26, guilty of two counts of possession with intent to distribute a cocaine base and one count each of unlawful possession of a firearm and ammunition by a felon, possession of a firearm in furtherance of a drug-trafficking offense and unlawful possession of ammunition by a felon. After a 500-month imprisonment, Cobb faces five years of parole. The charges stem from three encounters between Cobb and Raleigh police in October 2009 and January 2010. A police officer testified that he recognized Cobb as an individual involved in a drug sale on Oct. 29, 2009. He said that when approached by officers, Cobb dropped his coat and tried to run but was arrested. Police said they found a pistol, ammunition and 4.4. grams of cocaine in his coat. Prosecutors said that at the time, Cobb was also wanted on five warrants for failure to appear in court, including two involving assault on an officer. Police said that Cobb was again arrested on Jan. 14, 2010, after an officer saw him involved in a drug sale. He was released from jail and, the next day, ran from officers who stopped his car. A K-9 unit eventually found him hiding in a dumpster, police said. Officers said they seized crack cocaine and ammunition from his car. State Department of Correction records show that Cobb has 15 convictions dating from 2000, including assault with a deadly weapon inflicting serious injury, possession of a firearm by a felon and three each for conspiracy to commit armed robbery and second-degree kidnapping. He served one 2½-year prison sentence and got 10 infractions during that time, including assaulting a person with a weapon and involvement with a gang."

http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/9249567/

3/10/2011 3:52:29 PM

i dont think any judges are registered users of tww.

all youre going to get is a bunch of whiny faggots yelling back and forth with pro-jail blowhards

3/10/2011 3:53:53 PM

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"He said that when approached by officers, Cobb dropped his coat and tried to run but was arrested. Police said they found a pistol, ammunition and 4.4. grams of cocaine in his coat. Prosecutors said that at the time, Cobb was also wanted on five warrants for failure to appear in court, including two involving assault on an officer. Police said that Cobb was again arrested on Jan. 14, 2010, after an officer saw him involved in a drug sale. He was released from jail and, the next day, ran from officers who stopped his car. A K-9 unit eventually found him hiding in a dumpster, police said. Officers said they seized crack cocaine and ammunition from his car. State Department of Correction records show that Cobb has 15 convictions dating from 2000, including assault with a deadly weapon inflicting serious injury, possession of a firearm by a felon and three each for conspiracy to commit armed robbery and second-degree kidnapping. He served one 2½-year prison sentence and got 10 infractions during that time, including assaulting a person with a weapon and involvement with a gang."

If prison is not for a dumbass like this then who is it for? It is not like they had to peep in his windows an catch him, he was out in the street selling crack on multiple occasions with a gun on him. He has already been convicted of ADW, robbery, kidnapping, weapons charges.

He has pretty much covered everything short of murder and thats only a matter of time.

Also in since he went Federal he will be eligible for parole after a period of time, should he decide to straighten up he could get out early.

3/10/2011 4:12:20 PM

Pussy ass cracka
Give a nigga hunnit years

3/10/2011 4:34:38 PM

Yeah I thought originally he was given 40 years for like, having a gun in a bank or something. This seems more than reasonable.

3/10/2011 4:40:41 PM

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"State Department of Correction records show that Cobb has 15 convictions dating from 2000, including assault with a deadly weapon inflicting serious injury, possession of a firearm by a felon and three each for conspiracy to commit armed robbery and second-degree kidnapping. He served one 2½-year prison sentence and got 10 infractions during that time, including assaulting a person with a weapon and involvement with a gang." "

probably about right

3/10/2011 4:41:16 PM

I won't miss him

3/10/2011 4:43:57 PM

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"too much or too little? "

I was in the grand jury for this dude. This guy is a threat to society and deserves the punishment he has gotten. If you know the
circumstances around the "three encounters between Cobb and Raleigh," you would better understand.

3/10/2011 5:01:35 PM

^ ah ok. Obviously these articles are short on details, but it didn't list anything violent in this batch of charges...so i thought 40 years seemed like a lot.

perhaps this thread is motivated by this story i read yesterday:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/08/michael-woodmansee-cannibal_n_832962.html

This guy killed a 5 year old kid, tried to kill another, and got the same 40 year sentence.


obviously i don't have all the details like ^ does, but that was my first reaction.

3/10/2011 5:19:32 PM

yet Dr. Cook kills a person drunk driving and gets 3 years....

3/10/2011 5:43:19 PM

and....

3/10/2011 7:06:18 PM

Too much. Wouldn't 20 years pretty much do what 40 does--crush what's left of his spirit and remove him from society for a long time? What's the difference for society if he gets out at 46 instead of 66 (except of course an extra 20 years of taxpayer dollars going to support his miserable life in prison)?

3/10/2011 9:02:29 PM

It must suck to be black.

3/10/2011 9:20:37 PM

^^ Given 15 convictions since 2000, I'm going to go with preventing him from committing 30 more crimes?

3/10/2011 10:42:43 PM

?

Old people don't commit crimes the way young people do. In fact, 25 or 26 is when people tend to settle down and give up delinquent behavior. If he got out at 46 and got arrested again, it would probably be for shoplifting a steak in his pants or being drunk and disorderly up the street from his halfway home.

[Edited on March 10, 2011 at 11:38 PM. Reason : I can't stand the "reason for edit" field.]

3/10/2011 11:37:44 PM

Does prison really crush anyones spirit though?

Humans will adapt to any situation, and we thrive on stability. prison is probably as much stability as a lot of those people have ever had.

What might crush someone’s spirit is when they get out, they realize how much they’ve lost and missed, and have few other places to turn except to the circumstances that got them to prison in the first place.

3/10/2011 11:46:53 PM

obvs we as a society (not just government, society) must not molly-coddle convicted criminals with such luxuries as employability, even after they've served their sentences

the debt to society of those inmates shall never truly be paid
btw they're disproportionately minorities and the minorities were disproportionately wrongly convicted

3/11/2011 2:54:49 AM

^^It may have been an extreme choice of words. But as long as people are claiming that working in a cubicle is soul-crushing, I think it's appropriate to say the same about 20 years in prison.

And I guess we could find some stats to answer my earlier question. What's the recidivism rates of 26 year-old men who get 20 years (for drugs/violence) and 26 year-old men who get 40 years (for drugs and violence)?

3/11/2011 5:21:09 AM

take your liberal bullshit elsewhere. This guy is a meanace to society and has proven after multiple arrests that he can not live amoung civilized society. You are right people "appear" to be settled down by 25/26 because all the real fucking criminals are caught and locked up by this way.

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"they're disproportionately minorities and the minorities were disproportionately wrongly convicted "

Bullshit. The man is not out to get minorities. Certain social-economic groups which tend to be populated more-so by minorities idealize a gangster cultures which encourages a life of drug dealing, violence, and showing off one's Bling.

[Edited on March 11, 2011 at 8:33 AM. Reason : a]

3/11/2011 8:31:58 AM

Was in a grand jury a couple years ago, I think gun + felony = at least a year regardless of circumstances. Did the 40 count those other things he failed to appear in court for?

3/11/2011 10:14:20 AM

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"I was in the grand jury for this dude."

Were you really?! Wow.

[Edited on March 11, 2011 at 10:38 AM. Reason : no sarcasm... just wondering if that's really true or you were joking]

3/11/2011 10:38:06 AM

Its true.

^^ I am not really allowed to disclose information from the proceedings. Espcially in a public forum

3/11/2011 11:50:19 AM

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"HUR: take your liberal bullshit elsewhere. This guy is a meanace to society and has proven after multiple arrests that he can not live amoung civilized society. You are right people "appear" to be settled down by 25/26 because all the real fucking criminals are caught and locked up by this way."

You're trying to kick me out of a thread that asked us to debate this guy's sentence?

[/thread], guys. HUR has information that he can't share with us, and he knows for a fact that 40 years was not too much. No need for alternative opinions here. If you're thinking about posting something different, just move along with your liberal bullshit.

3/11/2011 2:47:05 PM

I'm gonna guess this guy is black since HUR thinks he should be in jail.

3/11/2011 3:05:23 PM

If the sole purpose of prison is to rehabilitate people then letting them out the instant that they promise they won't commit another crime again is the ideal amount of time. BridgetSPK seems to be arguing from this standpoint.

I personally think there's more to punishment than making the offender feel sorry for what they've done. 40 years seems not excessive given the repeat and violent nature of his offenses.

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"I'm gonna guess this guy is black since HUR thinks he should be in jail."

Insightful.

[Edited on March 11, 2011 at 3:11 PM. Reason : .]

3/11/2011 3:09:55 PM

When I read those HUR posts I hoped they were from a few years ago (wasn't sure if this was a new thread or not, was browsing a bit absent-mindedly). Damn, man. Still with the same bullshit? :/

3/11/2011 6:23:54 PM

Quote :

"40 years seems not excessive given the repeat and violent nature of his offenses."

what he got 40 years for:

Quote :

" two counts of possession with intent to distribute a cocaine base and one count each of unlawful possession of a firearm and ammunition by a felon, possession of a firearm in furtherance of a drug-trafficking offense and unlawful possession of ammunition by a "

i don't see any violence there...

3/11/2011 9:11:30 PM

One of the "possession of a firearm by a felon" charges. There was a reason during the third arrest they "knew" he had a weapon. Can't go into more specifics.

3/11/2011 11:45:05 PM

Who told you you couldn't talk about it? And why did you believe them?

You served on the grand jury a long time ago, and the trial is over.

Why would they have instructed you not to speak about the details?

This is America.

3/12/2011 8:08:54 PM

Amazing how all these jurors go and write books and shit about the high profile trials they served on after the trial is over, but HUR is sworn to secrecy forever on some low profile thug's case.

3/12/2011 10:07:40 PM

If only arguing about this moot point somehow changed something which has already happened.

4/1/2011 1:40:16 PM

So is bringing up a two week old thread to say that it was beating a dead horse some sort of meta irony?

4/1/2011 2:01:33 PM

It's not beating a dead horse. In this thread we can mock the rubber stamp yes-man of a juror that caused this.

[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 4:36 PM. Reason : ..and is somehow prohibited by law from discussing his shameful actions.]

4/1/2011 4:36:13 PM

a waste of my money to keep this guy in jail for 40 years.

send his ass to libya

4/1/2011 9:41:59 PM

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"Who told you you couldn't talk about it? And why did you believe them? You served on the grand jury a long time ago, and the trial is over. Why would they have instructed you not to speak about the details? This is America."

and

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"Amazing how all these jurors go and write books and shit about the high profile trials they served on after the trial is over, but HUR is sworn to secrecy forever on some low profile thug's case."

Grand Jury proceedings are always sealed.

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"Why are grand jury proceedings secret? Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure provide that the prosecutor, grand jurors, and the grand jury stenographer are prohibited from disclosing what happened before the grand jury, unless ordered to do so in a judicial proceeding. Secrecy was originally designed to protect the grand jurors from improper pressures. The modern justifications are to prevent the escape of people whose indictment may be contemplated, to ensure that the grand jury is free to deliberate without outside pressure, to prevent subornation of perjury or witness tampering prior to a subsequent trial, to encourage people with information about a crime to speak freely, and to protect the innocent accused from disclosure of the fact that he or she was under investigation."

http://www.abanow.org/2010/03/faqs-about-the-grand-jury-system/

http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/Rule6.htm

4/2/2011 12:44:23 PM

Prison is not for rehabilitation. It is to protect the public from the dangerous. This shitbag should be locked away for life.

4/2/2011 12:50:27 PM