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Awesome test yesterday! SpaceX Starship!

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12/10/2020 10:50:00 AM

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don't you ean "awesoe test yesterday"

12/10/2020 4:06:49 PM

Smath74
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Ha i was at work and used a different device!

12/10/2020 5:01:34 PM

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"Christina Koch from NCSU named in astronaut selection for possible moon missions. That would be pretty cool"

She legit could be the first woman to walk on the moon, especially considering her space flight record. Wild that I used to play Smash Bros with her brother in Bragaw years ago

[Edited on December 10, 2020 at 10:07 PM. Reason : ]

12/10/2020 10:06:08 PM

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Wraith, interesting crossover. . .

When you posted in the Chit Chat thread about Guile, I went to YouTube to try to find a clip of him saying "Jaeger!". Didn't really find anything satisfactory, but I did find a modern remake of Guile's Theme from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, which just this morning, BEFORE seeing this thread made me reminisce with fondness about Super Smash Brothers tournaments in Bragaw. Full circle!

Who was your preferred character? I'm a Kirby man.

12/11/2020 8:00:09 AM

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^^I saw her when I was at NCSU back in the day... She was engineering right? It's awesome that I was in a class with an astronaut!

12/11/2020 12:56:28 PM

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https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasas-juno-mission-expands-into-the-future
Not manned, but awesome. Juno lives on.

2/1/2021 11:15:02 PM

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https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/1/22261038/spacex-announces-first-all-civilian-mission-to-space

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"Elon Musk’s SpaceX is planning to send its first “all-civilian” crew to space at the end of 2021 in a charity-focused mission commanded by tech entrepreneur Jared Isaacman. The company said in a press release it’ll pick three people to ride alongside Isaacman to orbit aboard SpaceX’s Crew Dragon capsule."

2/2/2021 8:13:36 AM

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^

https://www.inspiration4.com/

Got five on it.

2/2/2021 9:38:36 AM

shoot
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I like them dream boldly and act boldly. The galaxy space travelling is seriously happening.

2/2/2021 10:52:58 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfHqbahPKpY

Boom!

2/2/2021 4:43:25 PM

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https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/timeline/landing/

Not manned spaceflight but tune in to NASA TV two weeks from today to see the landing of the Mars 2020 Perseverance rover. Aside from being a key part of the Mars Sample Return campaign that I am working on, it will be deploying the Ingenuity helicopter -- the first powered aircraft to operate outside of Earth's atmosphere.

2/4/2021 3:00:58 PM

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A Mars drone copter! Cool!

2/5/2021 5:51:21 PM

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"^^I saw her when I was at NCSU back in the day... She was engineering right? It's awesome that I was in a class with an astronaut!"



She is not just AN astronaut man, she’s THE astronaut.Her name will be written in the history book . First female astronaut walking in the space

2/5/2021 9:04:31 PM

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^Incorrect. First female spacewalk was in the 80s. You may have been thinking about the first ALL female spacewalk, which she was a part of.

Also, there is a likely possibility that she will be the first woman to walk on the moon. That's likely gonna get a building at NCSU named after her, lol.

2/12/2021 10:36:19 AM

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Wow, if she does it, they certainly will. She then becomes the female Armstrong.

2/12/2021 11:01:59 AM

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Looks like SpaceX put a booster in the drink yesterday. It's kind of cool that we're at the point where it's surprising when they don't recover boosters.

2/17/2021 10:18:32 AM

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https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/timeline/landing/watch-online/

Perseverance landing on Mars today around 3:55 EST!

2/18/2021 12:43:43 PM

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GG, Nerds!

2/18/2021 3:57:38 PM

shoot
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So the goal of landing human on it by 2025 is more and more realistic now.

2/18/2021 4:43:37 PM

HaLo
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LOL, NO

2/18/2021 7:14:26 PM

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^^First, that goal was to land on the MOON by 2025. Second, that goal was overly ambitious and completely unrealistic. When the VP announced that date, it was the first that anyone at NASA had even heard of it. They came up with that goal without consulting anyone that had a legit scientific/engineering background.

2/18/2021 8:47:12 PM

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"Elon Musk is still confident that 2026 will be the year that his space company SpaceX lands humans on Mars, where he hopes to build a human settlement.

In a wide-ranging recent interview with the audio-only Clubhouse app, Musk said it will take "five and a half years" before a crewed mission of SpaceX's Starship rocket could land on the Red Planet."


https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-spacex-starship-humans-mars-mission-2026-experts-question-2021-2

2/18/2021 9:14:05 PM

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Elon Musk has never missed a date projection.

2/18/2021 9:48:02 PM

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Yes, he’s primarily an engineer. An engineer is a man of his words, not a businessman who likes bragging and drawing attentions

[Edited on February 18, 2021 at 10:47 PM. Reason : .]

2/18/2021 10:45:26 PM

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"^^First, that goal was to land on the MOON by 2025. Second, that goal was overly ambitious and completely unrealistic."


If the US really has been to the moon before, which many millions don't believe, why is it not realistic to go there again in 5-6 years?

And did we really 'lose' the technology to get there from the previous trips? I think NASA says that, right? And that's used by moon landing-deniers to bolster their argument that we haven't ever been there because how can we 'lose' that know-how? If you think about it, it really is ridiculous to claim that NASA lost the tech or know-how to get to the moon.

2/18/2021 11:58:09 PM

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Reaching to Mars won't be too difficult since we have arrived to Moon 50 yrs ago. It's just further, much much further. Technically they are similar targets.

2/19/2021 9:43:43 AM

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Elon's strategy, like most things SpaceX, is to publicly announce an unrealistic goal to generate hype. Then when he doesn't meet it, people proclaim "at least he tried!". I appreciate the interest he has generated in the space industry but things like this are just ridiculous. Martian launch window opens up roughly every 2 years and we just had one last summer. To put humans on Mars in 2026 means they would have to launch from Earth in about three years. That is three years to finish up the design, do ALL qual and acceptance testing, requirements V&V, and build the actual hardware. They haven't even launch an unmanned payload into LUNAR orbit yet. Actually LANDING humans on Mars is a pipedream at this point. Even if they COULD get all the flight hardware ready in time, I have not seen anything about how they would keep humans alive. Radiation exposure alone is the big problem with long term human spaceflight. SpaceX landing humans on Mars by 2026 is the equivalent of a 5 year old who just learned how to ride a bike claiming that they are going to build a car and drive it from NY to LA in a few days. Humans won't be walking on Mars until mid-2030s at the earliest, and even that is optimistic.

shoot, I know you are a troll account, but you are gonna try harder than that. Going to Mars is a thousand times more difficult than going to the Moon. They are not "technically similar targets" at all.

0EPII1 The only man-rated launch vehicle capable of delivering that payload to the moon would be SLS, which was planned to be ready for launch in the late 2020s. Speeding it up for a 2024 launch date would not be feasible unless Congress was willing to give us an adequate budget, which they are not willing to do. We just don't have the hardware.

We didn't "lose" the technology, it's moreso that the technology is out of date now and we just don't have the funding or political backing to replicate it. I can pull up my work computer right now and dig up just about any data I need on the Apollo program technology in a few hours. In fact, we reference it on a lot of stuff we are doing now. When the Saturn 5 moon rocket was built, we had ~4% of the national budget with the full support of the government and one key mission that the funding was going towards. They said "Get to the moon by the end of the decade any way that you can. Here is a blank check. Do your thing." Nowadays, we have ~0.5% of the national budget, and congress insists that we use heritage space shuttle parts and nitpick every aspect of it. Admittedly, the RS-25 engine is the most efficient liquid rocket engine in existence, but with the right funding/support we could have built a better one that isn't from the 70s by now. On top of that, NASA has thousands of additional projects (as well as the heavy hitters like Artemis, HLS, lunar gateway, and MSR) that the small budget is spread between. Give us the budget and backing that they had in the 60s and we'd have people walking on Europa within our lifetime.

2/19/2021 6:14:43 PM

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shoot is really playing the long troll game.

Wraith, I appreciate your insights. I knew you were going places. First a FORTRAN TA, and now this!

But you never answered my question about your favorite Smash Bros. playable character.

2/19/2021 7:59:40 PM

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I must have missed it when you posted it before, but Fox was my main on Melee and PM. I don’t really play Ultimate much these days (It is only fun with local multiplayer and none of my friends have time anymore), but when I do occasionally play, I main Zero Suit Samus.

2/20/2021 12:37:02 AM

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Thx.

2/20/2021 7:29:35 AM

shoot
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^^I am not a troll, Elon Musk is if what you said is true, then he could be the biggest troll of the world. I just follow him and may be brainwashed by him.

2/20/2021 2:40:46 PM

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Elon Musk also being a troll doesn't mean you're not one. But I interact with a lot of troll accounts. That's most of what's left of TWW.

2/20/2021 4:06:31 PM

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A gigantic troll brainwashes a lot of followers to be trolls, then they troll the world. Just like Trump.

2/24/2021 8:52:44 AM

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Thanks Wraith.

Here is an answer by Robert Frost:

https://www.quora.com/How-did-we-lose-the-technology-to-go-to-the-Moon-If-it-has-been-built-it-can-be-built-again-cant-it-What-exactly-is-the-problem/answer/Robert-Frost-1

And this answer is very good also:

https://www.quora.com/How-is-it-that-NASA-lost-the-technology-to-go-to-the-moon-It-blew-my-mind-when-NASA-said-this/answer/Aaron-Outram

And this 5-min video (embedded in link 2nd link above) is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovD0aLdRUs0


[Edited on February 24, 2021 at 11:23 AM. Reason : shoot, read the 2 links above and watch the video.]

2/24/2021 11:06:31 AM

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^^That's true!

2/24/2021 11:49:49 AM

shoot
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^ Yes, that's what happened on Jan. 6. He first brainwashed the "patriots" at the rally, then they followed his order and occupied the top hill of the world. Crazy.

2/24/2021 12:44:50 PM

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Earth to Mars is 600 times further than to Moon. So 2026 to the Mars is unrealistic for sure if we can just be back to Moon in 2024. Probably 2033 still.

[Edited on February 26, 2021 at 2:16 PM. Reason : ;]

2/26/2021 2:11:57 PM

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Checks out!

2/26/2021 8:00:11 PM

HaLo
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RIP SN10

3/3/2021 8:32:40 PM

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GNSP

3/4/2021 10:51:25 AM

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https://www.techtimes.com/articles/257576/20210302/elon-musk-city-starbase-spacex-create-massive-spacecraft-facility-texas.htm

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"Elon Musk and SpaceX's latest venture would not just be a regular facility but would be a "City" in the form of Starbase, Texas. Musk's revelations already suggest that it would be massive like the Gigafactories, and would all dedicate itself to creating the latest innovations and products that SpaceX can offer, mainly in going to Mars and the "Stars.""

3/5/2021 11:48:09 AM

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The Perseverance rover looks like a small transformer by itself already.

3/22/2021 9:22:47 AM

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https://www.techtimes.com/articles/258254/20210321/elon-musk-first-mars-city-construction-nuwa-spacex.htm

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"Elon Musk: 'First Mars City' Construction Happening Within 2020 Decade, Not 2054"



I think his idea of a "CITY" or a "BASE" should be put on hold for a while as so far we haven't been able to put one human on mars yet.

3/23/2021 9:09:48 AM

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^ he is not saying the city would be ready this decade, but that construction would start this decade.

so the real question then becomes: can humans start construction work on Mars by the end of 2029?

that would require at least 2-3 manned visits to Mars by then, right?

yeah that's still a crazy goal i would say.

Wraith can provide a better idea.

3/23/2021 9:23:27 AM

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If it was all being built autonomously, it is possible but not likely. Even then, it would be a matter of one robot building a small structure, or a lander placing a prebuilt one on the surface. Launch windows come in to play here. The most efficient launch window to get something to Mars by the end of the decade would be 2026, but that would still be two years in space so it would be unmanned (max exposure to deep space solar radiation is something like ~500 days before humans start having problems). Sending humans to Mars would require a significantly more powerful launch vehicle. It could be launched from Earth in late 2028/early 2029 but it would cost so much more since Mars will be in opposition at that point.

That being said, sending something to Mars is not hard (relatively). NASA has been doing it for decades now. Landing stuff on Mars is challenging, but do-able. Bringing something BACK from Mars has never been done before, so getting that mission done with HUMANS before anything robotic has achieved the same thing is unrealistic. With launch windows on the way back, humans would prob need to be on Mars for about a year and that is when you start to see issues with long term radiation exposure. Sure, you can add radiation protection but that is VERY heavy and not realistic.

In general, all this talk from Elon about getting something from SpaceX to the surface of Mars anytime soon is hot air considering they haven't even sent anything to Lunar orbit yet. SpaceX getting something into MARS orbit by the end of the decade would be a lot more plausible.

[Edited on March 23, 2021 at 10:48 AM. Reason : ]

3/23/2021 10:39:22 AM

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^ thank mate!

cheers...

3/23/2021 10:53:18 AM

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"The mission was successfully launched from the Wenchang Spacecraft Launch Site on 23 July 2020 on a Long March 5 heavy-lift launch vehicle. After 7 months of transit, it entered orbit around Mars on 10 February 2021"


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"The mission will attempt to land its rover on Mars in May 2021. If successful, China will become the second country to deploy a rover on Mars, after the United States. It will also be the third country to achieve a successful soft landing on Mars, after the Soviet Union and the United States"


China's CNSA is trying very hard to follow US.

3/23/2021 1:39:44 PM

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^^^ The Martian film set a tone about what will happen in 2035 6 yrs ago already.

3/23/2021 5:13:26 PM

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shoot, thanks to your Chinese relatives for saving Matt Damon's life in The Martian. He's a national treasure.

3/23/2021 5:43:40 PM

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