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GeniuSxBoY
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I have high school students working for me that can't spell words like sausage and arch. They spell them saucage or arct. Only a select few applicants can spell correctly on their application but it seems like after I hire them, I find out they had help proofreading their application.

I am limited in time, so maybe you can help me by finding a comprehensive guide that lists sounds, phonics, and vowel pairs (like oo au ai ea ou) so I can teach these kids?

Something printable and able to be laminated is a plus! Thanks in advance!!

4/23/2011 6:48:19 PM

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How can I reach these keeds?

4/23/2011 6:49:17 PM

qntmfred
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seems

How many spelling bee championships are on your resume? Anyways, any HS kid who knows how to spell is probably too busy learning new words or running their own company by now or something and doesn't want your minimum wage job anyways. You gotta pay for competence, you know

[Edited on April 23, 2011 at 6:52 PM. Reason : Word]

4/23/2011 6:50:39 PM

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4/23/2011 6:50:51 PM

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Yeah, even the teachers are so stupid, they use gibberish such as "is uber failing"

4/23/2011 6:53:26 PM

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I didn't realize spelling was a requirement for pizza making and money taking.

Do you do specialty pizzas where you write messages on them for companies/birthdays/practical jokes?

4/23/2011 6:57:48 PM

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"How many spelling bee championships are on your resume? Anyways, any HS kid who knows how to spell is probably too busy learning new words or running their own company by now or something and doesn't want your minimum wage job anyways. You gotta pay for competence, you know"


Nobody pays me for competence. I'm taxed for competence.

4/23/2011 7:01:13 PM

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Your customers presumably pay you??

4/23/2011 7:02:41 PM

merbig
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^^ So you're paid for incompetently made pizza. I can see why you're hiring a HS student to work for you.

4/23/2011 7:06:00 PM

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"Your customers presumably pay you??"



I'm trying to figure out how this is related to my employees not knowing how to spell?

4/23/2011 7:09:44 PM

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I thought you went out of bidness?

4/23/2011 7:10:42 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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I'm not going out of business any time soon. That was a joke thread

[Edited on April 23, 2011 at 7:13 PM. Reason : See page 10 of that thread.]

4/23/2011 7:12:36 PM

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^^^ You said you weren't paid for competence. That statement is clearly false, unless you make shit and people volunteer to eat shit.

4/23/2011 7:13:48 PM

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Here: select any of these answers because any one of them can apply to the ambiguity of your arguments:




a. People don't come up to me and give me money because I can spell.

b. Government taxes me because I'm competent at running a business. Nobody pays me to be competent at running a business.

c. People pay for pizzas, not for competence. I stay in business because of competence. Employees keep their jobs because of competence. I keep customers because of competence.

d. Awesome pizzas can be made by employees that can't spell.

e. Employees that can't spell still get paid the same money whether competent or incompetent.

f. There are people less competent than you doing your same job and making more money. See Zuckerburg

g. There is no absolute value on competence. For example, the president, who has a high level of competence and heads a multi-trillion dollar country gets paid lower than an inherited CEO of a multi-million dollar business.

[Edited on April 23, 2011 at 7:27 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2011 7:26:14 PM

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4/23/2011 7:43:27 PM

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Alias

4/23/2011 8:04:55 PM

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Jennifer Garner

4/23/2011 8:20:23 PM

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" Government taxes me because I'm competent at running a business. Nobody pays me to be competent at running a business."


Actually, they tax you so they can run schools where they teach people how to read make pizzas.

4/23/2011 9:35:28 PM

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While learning on the job is an effective method of sustaining higher education in the country, I feel like this it is not the most efficient method of learning for the country. This flawed method adds more burden on the business sector to educate its employees which costs companies money and productivity. It would be more efficient on every level from single business entity all the way to a complicated compilation of a country full of business entities to teach its citizens common knowledge in the educational institutes designed to educate the population. This will save time, money, redundancy, and headaches in order to advance society into a leading example of a fine running machine built to benefit each and every person in society who chooses to participate.

4/23/2011 9:58:22 PM

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here we fucking go again

4/24/2011 12:55:49 AM

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You should open a pizza joint in Raleigh, I am sure Fred would champion it.........

4/24/2011 1:01:16 AM

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"-- Frustrated by what he called a "slow motion train wreck" for U.S. schools, Education Secretary Arne Duncan said he will give schools relief from federal mandates under the No Child Left Behind law if Congress drags its feet on the law's long-awaited overhaul and reauthorization.

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IT'S ABOUT TIME MOTHERFUCKER

6/12/2011 1:01:58 PM

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LMAO

6/12/2011 1:03:34 PM

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I'm confused. Why do you need strong spelling skills in order to make a pizza? As long as they can read on a 3rd grade level they should be good to go.

6/12/2011 1:08:34 PM

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While learning on the job is an effective method of sustaining higher education in the country, I feel like this it is not the most efficient method of learning for the country. This flawed method adds more burden on the business sector to educate its employees which costs companies money and productivity. It would be more efficient on every level from single business entity all the way to a complicated compilation of a country full of business entities to teach its citizens common knowledge in the educational institutes designed to educate the population. This will save time, money, redundancy, and headaches in order to advance society into a leading example of a fine running machine built to benefit each and every person in society who chooses to participate

6/12/2011 1:10:59 PM

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^ ^ I swear if someone ever confuses tomato with tamale in my pizza it's going down regardless

[Edited on June 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM. Reason : ^ product of Bush era education]

6/12/2011 1:12:31 PM

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6/12/2011 1:21:30 PM

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"..stupid topics like chocolate and Mexican landmarks."


lol

6/12/2011 1:23:43 PM

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"I'm confused. Why do you need strong spelling skills in order to make a pizza? As long as they can read on a 3rd grade level they should be good to go"



I'm glad you asked.

As hard as it is to believe, pizza making is not the only thing employees do.

Employees also write down orders

[Edited on June 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM. Reason : .]

6/12/2011 1:26:49 PM

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I've never seen a waiter/restaurant employee write down the full name of an item.

6/12/2011 1:40:54 PM

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Could not stop laughing at this.

6/12/2011 1:44:15 PM

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Have you seen waiters/waitresses take down delivery addresses to give to other waiters and waitresses who use GPS to find their table?

6/12/2011 1:48:30 PM

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i'm sure this is fake, but it's awesome

6/12/2011 1:51:08 PM

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Quit hiring retards.

Problem solved.

6/12/2011 2:01:00 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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Speak for yourself. Even Congress has retards.

6/12/2011 2:04:54 PM

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The only purpose in correct spelling is for written communication and the fact that it is mistakenly used as an indicator of intelligence and education. Research actually shows that poor spellers in fact have average to above-average vocabularies and strong communication skills, BUT they choose to use simpler words that they KNOW how to spell in order to avoid spelling errors. Research has also shown that many "strong spellers" may be able to correctly spell words, but have no idea what the words mean or how to use them in context.

In summary: You don't know shit.

[Edited on June 12, 2011 at 2:09 PM. Reason : .]

6/12/2011 2:08:17 PM

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Did you know? Higher IQ correlates with increased masturbation frequency, so it's probably more sanitary to eat that Saucage Deluxe.

I know because I just cleaned up.

6/12/2011 2:11:32 PM

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*snickers*

Maybe he just doesn't know how to read print. After all, cursive is superior.

[Edited on June 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM. Reason : .]

6/12/2011 2:12:40 PM

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"Speak for yourself. Even Congress has retards."

Sorry, didn't realize you weren't empowered with the ability to hire and fire at your own business.

6/12/2011 2:19:11 PM

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It's okay, not everyone knows that you are limited to hiring from the pool of people that walk in your door and fill out applications.

6/12/2011 2:23:17 PM

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"Have you seen waiters/waitresses take down delivery addresses to give to other waiters and waitresses who use GPS to find their table?"


I have never seen a waiter/waitress assign GPS coordinates to tables. Maybe you should simplify your structure so our talent pool can efficiently work?

6/12/2011 2:27:40 PM

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^ if the waiter/waitress were to simultaneously tweet while taking said order then such coordinates would be assigned

so put that in your pipe and smoke it

6/12/2011 2:28:43 PM

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No, merbig. You missed the whole point of the post.

We are a pizza DELIVERY business. We deliver to houses that have street names. Do you know where GPS takes you if you type in the wrong or misspelled street name?

I feel like I'm talking to a baby.

6/12/2011 2:32:07 PM

stategrad100
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^ do you often.....talk to....... babies?

6/12/2011 2:34:08 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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I have two kids.

6/12/2011 2:36:18 PM

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My GPS is generally smart enough to figure out the street name even if spelled wrong. Besides what happened to the good old days of a giant paper map of your delivery area slapped on a wall.

6/12/2011 2:38:39 PM

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"No, merbig. You missed the whole point of the post."


No. What you said was fucking stupid.

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"We are a pizza DELIVERY business. We deliver to houses that have street names. Do you know where GPS takes you if you type in the wrong or misspelled street name?"


That is why if they are uncertain on how to spell a street name, they can ask... Jesus fucking Christ.

If your delivery guys can't spell "Main St." then you have a point, but if he can't find "dumblinger lane," then it's hardly a reason to ridicule his intelligence.

And if he doesn't know how to spell a street name, what's the big deal? You're smart enough to "help" him out without stopping what you're doing, aren't you?

I don't know what odd names are around in your area, but here are some strange street names that I wouldn't expect any one to spell without seeing the spelling first...

[Edited on June 12, 2011 at 2:45 PM. Reason : ^ That might actually be a good idea.]

6/12/2011 2:45:21 PM

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The situational irony ITT is the arguments constructed are testament to the now obviated systemic uber failings of public education in America.

Snarky arrogance FTW

6/12/2011 2:53:12 PM

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Merbig, i know it's hard for you to understand that I'm not there to manage their spelling or grammar. I am there to make sure the store runs smoothly. Poor spelling and grammar is an epidemic that can be solved before children graduate from High School. I realize that some people who are brilliant also can't spell, but they are rare. I know people like to create artistic spellings of words in their leisure texting, but those people also know the correct spelling. I don't use correct punctuation or capitalization because I'm lazy, but if I had to write a formal report, I know how to use them.

When employees are writing addresses, they must be precise and accurate spelling or else you create a mathimatical probability of error. In other words, the only way to eliminate ambiguity is to spell the name 100% correct, 100% of the time. It gets trickier when the customers don't know how to spell their own street name!!

That said, I am not the person who is taking the order. If someone writes down "Dawfin Ln" there is no way for me to know if it's Daulphin Ln or Dolphin Lane off the top of my head. You get the employee to call back and they ask for the street name letter by letter. They HEAR Calthin because Ds and Cs, Ps and Ts sound alike on the phone. (This is why military uses Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, when spelling letters over the phone) Anyway now we have another problem because I have to guess whether it's Dolphin or Calvin lane. Who the fuck knows? I'm not the one hearing the customer.

To answer your question "You're smart enough to "help" him out without stopping what you're doing, aren't you":

Smart enough isn't a variable in the equation and yes I have to stop what I'm doing to help them figure out the address. It is increasingly frustrating and infuriating when they say they don't remember what they heard.



[Edited on June 12, 2011 at 5:30 PM. Reason : .]

6/12/2011 5:27:53 PM

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tl;dr

6/12/2011 5:28:21 PM

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