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"For most people who have a problem with Cam and have specious reasoning, Ryan Clark's take is a bullseye. For the handful of people like HUR, it is a race thing. "


Regarding the video, he spent almost seven minutes trying to explain stuff with "It's his culture...reasons". Give me a break, Cam tried to jump on the black power bandwagon and got his ass handed to him last night resulting in a non-pay off. Not only that but all season he's acted like the NFL has never seen anyone like him and he's the greatest thing ever. He couldn't even give a decent post-game interview. He was all hooded up and ended it with "I'm done man". He's a baby that needs to grow up. Have some self respect and appreciate the fact that he's not the best to ever play and never will be.

2/8/2016 7:51:59 AM

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2/8/2016 9:09:45 AM

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Was that after watching the replays of his two fumbles that resulted in the 14 point difference? J/K I mean Cam had a great year, but he didnt do himself any favors last night as far as the things his haters keep pointing out.

2/8/2016 9:15:26 AM

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Von Miller's bitch, basically.

A reporter should have asked Cam if he needed a band-aid for his hurt feeling's last night.


[Edited on February 8, 2016 at 9:46 AM. Reason : .]

2/8/2016 9:45:45 AM

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Yes, he sucks this time.

2/8/2016 10:07:41 AM

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"Regarding the video, he spent almost seven minutes trying to explain stuff with "It's his culture...reasons". Give me a break, Cam tried to jump on the black power bandwagon and got his ass handed to him last night resulting in a non-pay off. Not only that but all season he's acted like the NFL has never seen anyone like him and he's the greatest thing ever. He couldn't even give a decent post-game interview. He was all hooded up and ended it with "I'm done man". He's a baby that needs to grow up. Have some self respect and appreciate the fact that he's not the best to ever play and never will be."


hahahahahaah what the fuck are you talking about.

2/8/2016 10:59:46 AM

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Trolling posts aside from yesterday, I really am disappointed the Panthers lost yesterday.
I wouldn't have minded been proven wrong with a stellar come-back/push to beat the Broncos but Cam exhibited all the qualities that his critics have touched on, even the intangibles. By the end of Q3 instead of looking like a leader with the energy to push his team for the win, he just looked annoyed, sulky and downtrodden.
This goes directly back to my argument that when things are good, Cam's enthusiasm is infectious and he makes it look easy to keep the ball moving. When things go sour and not to plan he appears to just pout and seems to easy to give up. This is a big difference that I see between Russ Wilson and Cam, a quality that I believe makes Russ better then Cam.

The broncos were never out of reach until the waning minutes of Q4. Sure the defense was all over his ass, but as a mobile QB this was his time to shine and prove all those haters wrong. Instead he proved contrary to his claim he's not some first elite African-American QB. Real champs win super bowls and I did not see any MVP caliber performance.

Maybe this experience will humble him, doubt it though, and he can let his play on the field exemplify his skills instead of hyping himself up on camera.

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I guess you missed the interview where he claimed that he had haters because people had never seen anything like him as some sort of first of a kind elite African-American QB or something

[Edited on February 8, 2016 at 11:35 AM. Reason : a]

[Edited on February 8, 2016 at 11:38 AM. Reason : a]

2/8/2016 11:34:18 AM

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^nah i didn't miss that interview. the post is still fucking stupid

[Edited on February 8, 2016 at 11:48 AM. Reason : all in all, i guess it is more like THUG newton amirite]

2/8/2016 11:47:47 AM

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http://deadspin.com/cam-fucking-blew-it-1757768173

2/8/2016 11:48:08 AM

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^that's a completely fair assessment imo

2/8/2016 11:49:26 AM

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"And Newton had every last trace of confidence excised from his body, which should never happen to a man of that size and ability. When Cam goes under center, he looks like a giant trying to piss in a kiddie urinal. "


http://deadspin.com/cam-fucking-blew-it-1757768173

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"t was a flashback to the first two years of Newton's career, when he was criticized for wearing a towel over his head on the sideline and sulking during losses."


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14737653/super-bowl-50-cam-newton-carolina-panthers-says-tepid-performance-was-special-did

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"i didn't miss that interview. the post is still fucking stupid"


really now? Apparently others agree with me too.

2/8/2016 11:55:54 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGOuGHp94K8

You mean to tell me all that makes sense to you. "Cam dance because he can dance" What the fuck is all that about?

Cam Newton acted like an insufferable bitch all season with all the dancing and bullshit. Got his ass handed to him last night and then couldn't take it. That's why people don't like him, because he's a douche. But that guy is trying to explain away all the douchey stuff and him trying to channel the whole black power thing (people are afraid of a black QB with my ability... ) as just a different culture.

2/8/2016 1:28:49 PM

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My dad also emailed me to tell me that he was glad Peyton won because he likes the more mature QB and doesn't like the way Cam dances.

(and yeah, he's kinda racist because of the culture he grew-up in)

2/8/2016 1:31:46 PM

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Other than feeling disappointed, especially in the way the Panthers played as a whole, and feeling bad for the individuals on the team, because I can only imagine how invested they were in this game.......

I was absolutely dreading the hater narratives that were gonna be in full force. I'm so fucking sick of jaded bomb throwers and trolls, professional or otherwise. You could almost hear them licking their fucking lips toward the end of the game. Fucking assholes

2/8/2016 1:52:50 PM

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Can hasn't matured enough to throw his team under the bus when he loses like Peyton.

2/8/2016 1:54:22 PM

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"Cam Newton acted like an insufferable bitch all season with all the dancing and bullshit."


I, too, think anyone who smiles and has fun is an insufferable bitch

2/8/2016 2:54:58 PM

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"You mean to tell me all that makes sense to you. "Cam dance because he can dance" What the fuck is all that about?

Cam Newton acted like an insufferable bitch all season with all the dancing and bullshit. Got his ass handed to him last night and then couldn't take it. That's why people don't like him, because he's a douche. But that guy is trying to explain away all the douchey stuff and him trying to channel the whole black power thing (people are afraid of a black QB with my ability... ) as just a different culture."


dude...he's a rich ass 26 year old playing football for a living. dancing and smiling and carrying on like that is perfectly fine. that doesn't make him a "bitch". yes...he did not handle the post game well. it was probably the worst day of his professional career and he was unhappy about it and obviously his emotions got the best of him. oh well. not his best moment. i think you're way way over-reacting to how he reacted in his post game. it's hardly an indictment of who he is as a person.

we overlook peyton manning's alleged sexual harassment at UT because gosh darn he's just so nice on those commercials and aw shucks it's good to see him win in his final game. but cam's dancing and being upset about a loss is just too much to handle.

2/8/2016 3:05:42 PM

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"yes...he did not handle the post game well. it was probably the worst day of his professional career and he was unhappy about it and obviously his emotions got the best of him. oh well. not his best moment. i think you're way way over-reacting to how he reacted in his post game. it's hardly an indictment of who he is as a person. "


There's also this:
http://deadspin.com/did-cam-newton-leave-his-press-conference-because-he-co-1757780472
http://wgntv.com/2016/02/08/the-reason-cam-newton-walked-out-of-his-postgame-press-conference/

2/8/2016 7:57:12 PM

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When Manning lost to the Saints he ran off the field without talking to anyone. When Cam lost this was his respone to the opposing QB

2/9/2016 12:04:31 AM

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"“Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser,” Newton said, via Joseph Person of the Charlotte Observer. “If I offended anyone, that’s cool … I don’t have to conform to anybody’s wants for me. I’m not that guy. This is a great league with or without me. I am my own person.”"


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/09/cam-newton-show-me-a-good-loser-and-ill-show-you-a-loser/

Not sure why you people are still defending him and making excuses for him. He admitted he's a poor sport and he doesn't care. He has zero problem bragging and rubbing it in his opponents' faces, so long as he's winning, but can't take it when he's losing. He may be a good QB with a lot of potential, but he's got a ton of growing up to do. Maybe you will follow him blindly, but I'm not so sure other professional athletes will...

2/9/2016 11:51:47 AM

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jesus you mis-read what he said. he said he's a sore loser in the sense that he hates losing and never wants to lose. what he said is fine. at this point people have made up their minds about him. if you don't like him, all of this is just confirmation for you. if you do like him, part of what you like is that he wears his emotions on his sleeve, he isn't a robot in the media like russell wilson for example.

it's a useless debate at this point because we all have our minds made up already.

that article left out this part of the quote "I'm on record as being a sore loser. I hate losing" which, IMO, gives better context to what he's saying. but like i said, we've already made our mind. so whatever

[Edited on February 9, 2016 at 12:06 PM. Reason : c]

2/9/2016 12:04:56 PM

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Sorry, but nobody likes a sore winner OR a sore loser. Cam Newton is the definition of both. You can be objective about it and admit he needs to grow the fuck up, or you can be a homer and make excuses for his behavior. If you weren't a Panthers fan, you'd probably be able to get why people don't like him.

2/9/2016 12:09:04 PM

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But you can rape girls and beat your woman, BUT DON'T BE A SORE LOSER!

2/9/2016 12:14:08 PM

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i don't understand why people are giving him flak for being upset in the post-game presser. Guy just lost the super bowl, why would he be happy to re-live it with the media rapid firing questions in his face. At least he was classy enough to personally congratulate peyton out on the field.

2/9/2016 12:16:30 PM

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"Cam Newton is the definition of both. You can be objective about it and admit he needs to grow the fuck up, or you can be a homer and make excuses for his behavior. If you weren't a Panthers fan, you'd probably be able to get why people don't like him."


I actually do understand why people don't like him and I've acknowledged as much before. I openly admit to being a homer and Cam defender. I've also said that he handled the presser poorly on Sunday. But that's what you get with Cam. You get a guy that is gonna wear his emotions on his sleeve and he's gonna smile and be cocky when the team wins and he's probably gonna pout and take it really hard when he loses. He's not gonna be a cliche-spouting robot like Russell Wilson. And some people don't like that, and you don't have to like it. I don't think he needs to grow up. He's playing football for a living. I think he should continue to play the game the way he's always played it...it's worked out well for him so far. The point is, he isn't gonna change drastically and that's ok because he doing pretty damn well as is and his teammates seem to love him and, most importantly, he's winning games and being very successful. He's not been in any off the field trouble since joining the league and has seemingly been a very positive influence in the community. If the worst thing he does is dance too much when he wins and pout too much when he loses, then I'm ok with that.

2/9/2016 12:28:07 PM

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^^It would be one thing if he was just upset and didn't want to talk to the media afterwards, but the dude doubled down on being a poor sport. He could have easily come back and said "yeah, I was pretty devastated after the loss and couldn't handle it". But he literally just said he doesn't care if he's a sore loser because that's who he is.

[Edited on February 9, 2016 at 12:29 PM. Reason : .]

2/9/2016 12:28:46 PM

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(all these options are after he happily congratulated Manning and other Broncos on the win before addressing the media, which imo means more when you show respect to your peers and competitors, compared to the media)

**Option 1 (what happened): Pout during presser, hear Chris Harris gloating in questionable Super Bowl post-game media setup (I mean really, so much money made on that game, they can't have a little better media setup than a curtain between the 2 teams in the same room?)
-- Media Result: Cam can't handle losing, sore loser, not classy, not professional, can give it but can't take it, etc

**Option 2: Pout during presser, but stay the whole time. Be sad and give short answers, but don't leave early
-- Media Result: Cam is a sore loser and pouts. Needs to be more professional.

**Option 3: Show up smiling, answer all questions without issue, give the media great quotes, say the Broncos were the better team
-- Media Result: Cam didn't seem to care about the loss. Cam doesn't care about winning. Cam only cares about the spotlight, he said he wants to be an icon and entertainer and is more interested in the media than winning. He'll never win with that attitude

**Option 4: Show up upset, but with his head held high. Says Broncos got the best of him, but that he guarantees he'll work hard in the offseason, that the whole team will, and that they'll be back next year to win it all
-- Media Result: Cam is arrogant and cocky. He's trying to take away from the Broncos win by blaming his mistakes and not giving credit to the Broncos.

The motherfucker can't win in the media no matter what he does or says. I do think it's funny that when the league has people beating their wives, girlfriends and kids, beating up off-duty police officers, etc etc that this guy gets so much shit for being mad about losing and not being as professional as he should. Aqib Talib did a lot worse stuff on Sunday but the only thing I've heard about him in the news the last couple days is how he slipped and fell and it was funny.

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Also, most of the guys who the media likes to bring up when comparing Super Bowl loss pressers had already won a Super Bowl (Peyton, Russell, Brady, etc) and I'd imagine the loss is a little easier to stomach if you already have a Lombardi. The NFL network thing with Faulk, Deion and Irvin told it all, imo. Deion and Irvin have never lost a Super Bowl. Faulk has. Faulk was the only one who understood what Cam was going through, and he gave him a pass. If you think you have a better perspective on this particular situation than Marshall Faulk, I'd say you're wrong.

[Edited on February 11, 2016 at 12:53 AM. Reason : .]

2/11/2016 12:50:03 AM

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I think the main issue is....why the fuck do we care how he presented himself at the press conference?

2/11/2016 9:33:21 AM

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everybody says "he needs to grow up".

he doesn't really need to grow up. he's been pretty successful playing the game like he always has without "growing up". people just want him to "grow up" so that they like him better or so that he'll fit their mold of what he should be. but the thing about cam is, he doesn't care if you like him or not. he's just being himself. which rubs people the wrong way sometimes.

2/11/2016 10:40:10 AM

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You make money through endorsement deals which pan out better if more people revere you.

2/11/2016 11:07:35 AM

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yeah, he'll probably definitely lose some endorsement deals over these shenanigans

2/11/2016 11:16:29 AM

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2/11/2016 11:17:35 AM

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look at all the endorsement money Marshawn Lynch lost for saying, "I'm just here so I don't get fined"

2/11/2016 11:28:15 AM

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this is over a year old, but this says he trails only peyton manning in terms of endorsements in 2015. i'm pretty sure russell wilson is quickly climbing that list. and i don't think him leaving the post game presser is gonna really make companies drop him left and right.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12990868/cam-newton-trails-only-peyton-manning-terms-marketing-appeal-nfl

2/11/2016 11:35:23 AM

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double post

[Edited on February 11, 2016 at 11:36 AM. Reason : whoops whoops]

2/11/2016 11:36:01 AM

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http://thebiglead.com/2016/02/09/cam-newton-sore-loser/

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"Cam Newton used a Vince Lombardi quote to answer critics who took issue with the way he conducted himself after Carolina’s Super Bowl 50 loss.

“Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser,” Newton said.

Lombardi’s words are considered gospel in football circles. There is a certain poetic nature to see the future of the NFL use wisdom from the first Super Bowl winner.

The only problem is that the quote doesn’t hold up to much dissection.

What it’s supposed to imply is that losing should be seen as unacceptable and make the vanquished hot with fire so it never happens again. It’s a fine sentiment and has obvious merit — especially for a football coach trying to get his team to rebound. What it also implies is that those that are “good” at losing are doing it wrong. That coping with a loss can be done one way and one way alone.

Sound familiar? It’s the reason why Newton is in the position to answer questions about his behavior in the first place.

There’s a faction of people who needed — for a variety reasons — for Newton to give a more professional performance after Sunday’s loss. The MVP, who has gone so far as to tell us we’ve never seen an athlete like him before, did not meet their expectations. No surprise there.

Newton’s defenders correctly point out the moments directly after a Super Bowl loss are extraordinarily difficult, they also claim the setup allowed for Broncos cornerback Chris Harris to intentionally or otherwise chirp within earshot and that the polarizing quarterback was simply being himself.

Whether you think Newton should be criticized or left alone is a debate taking place, well, almost everywhere else on the Internet outside of this post.

It’s this quote combined with the Lombardi homage that brings up a different issue.

“The truth of the matter is, who are you to say that your way is right?” Newton said. “That’s what I don’t understand. We have all these people condemning and saying this… But what makes your way right?”

What makes any way right?

Newton’s dealing with a loss on the sport’s biggest stage in a much different way than Russell Wilson did a year ago. Both of their actions fit with their respective personalities and appeal to different segments.

What do they have in common? They both lost and chose how to cope with that loss.

A hatred of losing is near universal. You show me someone who enjoys losing and I’ll show you a masochist. You show me someone who is telling someone else how to act after a loss and I’ll show you someone who needs to let people act how they want to after losses.

By Newton’s logic many of his teammates are losers for not being as public with their disgust. Josh Norman. Greg Olsen. Every Panther who didn’t sulk or storm off. Are we to assume that they don’t care? That the loss didn’t impact them the same way the loss effected Newton?

That insinuation won’t play well within the locker room and it’s also just not accurate. There are other ways to deal with loss than stomp and put on a hang-dog face and make it known that you’re the most disgusted person in the world.

Losing sucks. It sucks as a player, it sucks as a fan and it sucks in life. You know what sucks even more? Being told to how to cope with a loss.

That’s what the anti-Newton crowd is doing and that’s what Cam did, perhaps inadvertently.

We need to stop trying to hang two L’s on athletes — one for the game and one for the postgame. Losing is not a one-size-fits-all cross to bear and should be treated as such."

2/11/2016 11:50:35 AM

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Look, you're ignoring the fact that prior to the NFL, Cam had a pretty rough reputation to begin with. He had a bunch of off the field disciplinary stuff before getting drafting and he's associated with shady bullshit at Auburn. For that alone, a lot people didn't like him. When he got to the NFL, he was given a clean slate, and he underperformed for a while, so people wrote him off. When he suddenly started winning and the Panthers became relevant, he went out of his way to be over the top and rub victory in the face of his opponents. Even Ron Rivera said he should have known better and acted with more maturity after the presser. There's a difference between wearing your heart on your sleeve and having fun while you're winning, and being a total poor sport and sore loser. Frankly, I'm tired of people beating a dead horse. He lost, he handled it poorly. Who cares anymore? Maybe next season he can silence his critics with his play, but if I were him, I'd probably take the time to reflect on how my actions affect my team mates. He's a QB and he's supposed to be a leader. Having a Jeckly/Hyde personality when it comes to winning and losing is going to alienate him from a lot of his team mates if he isn't careful. That's all.

2/11/2016 12:25:08 PM

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" He had a bunch of off the field disciplinary stuff before getting drafting and he's associated with shady bullshit at Auburn. "


he was in possession of a stolen laptop. that's the extent of his off the field stuff...aside from the auburn situation, which you already mentioned. and that's a fine reason for people to dislike him, i guess...but let's not overstate what it was. he wasn't out there beating people up and assaulting girls and shit.

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"When he suddenly started winning and the Panthers became relevant, he went out of his way to be over the top and rub victory in the face of his opponents."


ehh, he's been doing that stuff from Day 1. not just since the team's been winning.

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"He's a QB and he's supposed to be a leader. Having a Jeckly/Hyde personality when it comes to winning and losing is going to alienate him from a lot of his team mates if he isn't careful. That's all."


sure...but his teammates have really only had glowingly positive things to say about him the past few seasons, and are still standing by that even after the SB loss (olsen and kalil defending him in particular). which is what it boils down to for me. if his teammates love him, see him as the leader, and see him as a positive presence for the team...then that's good enough for me. i'll trust the opinion of the guys who spend every day with him.

not liking him is totally cool...but talking about how a player should act is kinda dumb, i think...he's stayed outta trouble, won a lot of games, won an MVP, and has the full support of his coaches and teammates. he's doing fine doing things his way.

[Edited on February 11, 2016 at 1:36 PM. Reason : f]

2/11/2016 1:33:59 PM

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so let's say the Panthers don't go 15-1 again next year and they go a more pedestrian 9-7 or 10-6. You're saying his teammates aren't going to mind this up and down rollercoaster of dabbing during wins and sulking during losses? I dunno man- I'd get sick of it pretty quickly since it's a huge distraction. Hard to take your team seriously when it's a bipolar circus. I don't think the media was paying as much attention before, but you can bet they will be eating up this type of narrative in the future.

2/11/2016 1:43:17 PM

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WHO CARES

2/11/2016 1:50:06 PM

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" I don't think the media was paying as much attention before"

2/11/2016 1:53:37 PM

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super

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2/11/2016 2:02:18 PM

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"By Newton’s logic many of his teammates are losers for not being as public with their disgust. Josh Norman. Greg Olsen. Every Panther who didn’t sulk or storm off. Are we to assume that they don’t care? That the loss didn’t impact them the same way the loss effected Newton?"


Yes, the loss did not impact them the same way as it affected Newton. Norman and Olsen aren't the starting QB.

2/11/2016 2:29:02 PM

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"so let's say the Panthers don't go 15-1 again next year and they go a more pedestrian 9-7 or 10-6. You're saying his teammates aren't going to mind this up and down rollercoaster of dabbing during wins and sulking during losses? I dunno man- I'd get sick of it pretty quickly since it's a huge distraction. Hard to take your team seriously when it's a bipolar circus. I don't think the media was paying as much attention before, but you can bet they will be eating up this type of narrative in the future.
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he's not gonna walk out of the press conferences of regular season losses like that...it was only a big deal because it was the SB. look at the way he acted after the ATL loss in the regular season this year, or losses last season for examples. he takes it hard, but he's not gonna act that way after every single regular season loss. and hell, maybe i'm wrong. maybe his teammates turn on him next season if the panthers get off the sluggish start. but that seems unlikely given everything that's led up to this point in his career. but it's not like this is the first good season they've had...they've been to the playoffs now 3 straight seasons. his teammates have, at this point, pretty seen it all with him i'd imagine...he's been in the league like 5 years now.

and the media absolutely has always paid this much attention to newton. he's been under a microscope his entire time in the nfl. the dude has gotten heat for wearing a damn towel over his head...this is nothing new for the media.

[Edited on February 11, 2016 at 5:18 PM. Reason : f]

2/11/2016 5:15:04 PM

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lol at dabbing after touchdowns or pouting in a press conference being "huge distractions" for his teammates

2/11/2016 5:16:17 PM

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All this sideshow drama and theater is why I try to only watch games and as little of the pregame shows as possible. Any given Sunday there's NFL pregame shows on ESPN/ESPN2/CBS/FOX/FS1/NFL Network that dissect this nebulous, physiological stuff to an exhausting degree. 20 years ago, there isn't this saturated level of coverage given towards this off-field minutia that dictates what casual fans talk about.

Football-wise the story is how shitty Cam played on the field and how the Broncos made it happen. Now, Cam's postgame presser is the dominant story and I suspect will be referenced at least semi-regularly for the next six months.

2/12/2016 10:52:37 AM

Novicane
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supposedly this is him smoking weed in public, smh

https://www.facebook.com/realnflnewsandupdates/videos/1767288953492553/?fref=nf

2/20/2016 10:55:29 PM

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Nothing wrong with that

Extremely dumb

White knights incomihg

2/20/2016 11:47:23 PM

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After he finished smoking, he rubbed his asshole on some girl's face

2/21/2016 9:37:22 AM

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It's pretty clearly a type of cigar. Plus he's not dumb enough to blatantly be smoking weed in a highly public setting like a club

2/21/2016 12:14:15 PM

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