http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2010/03/02/Higher-IQ-linked-to-liberalism-atheism/UPI-68381267513202/#ixzz1MH6PgssG

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"LONDON, March 2 (UPI) -- More intelligent children may be more likely to grow up to be liberals, a researcher at the London School of Economics and Political Science suggests. Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist, says "evolutionarily novel" preferences and values are those that humans are not biologically designed to have and our ancestors probably did not possess. In contrast, those that our ancestors had for millions of years are "evolutionarily familiar." Kanazawa argues that humans are evolutionarily designed to be conservative, caring mostly about their family and friends, and being liberal -- caring about an indefinite number of genetically unrelated strangers one has never meet or interacted with -- is evolutionarily novel. Data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health support Kanazawa's hypothesis. Young adults who subjectively identify themselves as "very liberal" have an average IQ of 106 during adolescence while those who identify themselves as "very conservative" have an average IQ of 95 during adolescence, Kanazawa says. "

5/14/2011 12:08:03 PM

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5/14/2011 12:09:29 PM

March. 2, 2010

5/14/2011 12:18:57 PM

The irony of this thread is astounding

5/14/2011 12:24:09 PM

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5/14/2011 12:26:53 PM

[!NEW]

5/14/2011 12:31:27 PM

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"may"

nothing as convincing as vague possibilities!

5/14/2011 12:34:43 PM

What if you're a liberal that doesn't really care about strangers

5/14/2011 12:45:59 PM

I'm a liberal. And an atheist. And I'm awesome.

5/14/2011 12:58:23 PM

bwn?

5/14/2011 1:00:59 PM

No, I also prefer sexual exclusivity.

5/14/2011 1:01:56 PM

Thank you for keeping your childish, left wing and anti god bullshit to your own threads. Carry on.

5/14/2011 1:03:10 PM

what is childish about it?

I'm a leftist and I don't believe in, or support the idea of, any deity

does that make me a child?

5/14/2011 1:12:25 PM

Social liberals or economic liberals?

5/14/2011 1:59:45 PM

flamebait threads linked to trolling, arguing

also, i think he was calling OP childish - not atheists / leftists

[Edited on May 14, 2011 at 2:40 PM. Reason : .]

5/14/2011 2:36:24 PM

Did you know that Ice cream causes murder? Ice cream sales are highly correlated with homicide rates.

5/14/2011 2:48:46 PM

I just dont get it why conservatives start to get so pissy whenever I bring up universal health care, or at least allowing the poor working class to qualify for health care.

So, you don't want the poor working class to have any health care?

5/14/2011 2:50:38 PM

Yet another thread by pryderi that belongs in TSB.

On another note, as it turns out, Neo is a conservative.

Quote :

"Kanazawa argues that humans are evolutionarily designed to be conservative, caring mostly about their family and friends, and being liberal -- caring about an indefinite number of genetically unrelated strangers one has never meet or interacted with -- is evolutionarily novel."

5/14/2011 3:01:17 PM

Is this liberal enough?

5/14/2011 3:36:52 PM

this just in, more youths are liberal! oh wait, that's not new at all . . .

being "atheist" at a young age would indicate a greater average intelligence purely for the fact that the concept of atheism is not a simple one (truly at least) compared with just accepting what your family tells you (90%+ not atheist) which is easier and simpler.

now as you advance with years this tid bit tends to iron itself out to some extent but since 90%+ of the population is not atheist, and it's a slightly more difficult concept to hold and maintain odds generally point again to a higher average intelligence as smarter people tend to be more willing to invest time and effort into being a minority belief system as a whole (even more so when the whole thing is optional)

You still tend to live longer more happy lives NOT being a atheist (on average compared to atheists) though. That fact alone makes it more worth while to believe in something over nothing. (at least for me, though I do have other reasons for it not to be divulged here)

[Edited on May 14, 2011 at 3:46 PM. Reason : e]

5/14/2011 3:40:16 PM

Makes sense. I don't know too many smart Christian Conservatives. In fact, Christian Conservative is damn near an oxymoron.

5/14/2011 8:06:58 PM

[Edited on May 14, 2011 at 8:45 PM. Reason : Fuck it, whats the point]

5/14/2011 8:35:54 PM

atheist is the new hippie

5/14/2011 8:48:26 PM

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"You still tend to live longer more happy lives NOT being a atheist"

eh?

I guess you think atheists must be bummed out and depressed all the time since they aren't the center of the universe like Christians are but really, we're fine.

this is all I could find, idk
http://hpq.sagepub.com/content/4/3/381.abstract


[Edited on May 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM. Reason : ...]

5/14/2011 10:21:51 PM

Quote :

"I just dont get it why conservatives start to get so pissy whenever I bring up universal health care, or at least allowing the poor working class to qualify for health care. "

well, maybe if we actually did things that made that possible, it'd be one thing. making health care more expensive for every one isn't one of those things that helps the poor.

5/14/2011 10:24:43 PM

conservative leaders like to lie about these things

sure the poor will spend more on healthcare following the implementation of reform, but that's like saying that I'll spend more on video games if I finally spring for the Wii after its price drops

the quality of their care will improve more than their expenditures will increase

5/14/2011 11:29:01 PM

Did you make this thread to feel better about yourself? Be honest.

5/15/2011 12:58:10 AM

pryderi

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"SHITTY THREAD MAKER"

At least he's honest.

5/15/2011 1:21:26 AM

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"The irony of this thread is astounding"

5/15/2011 1:21:57 AM

The smartest people I know are Republicans.

5/15/2011 1:45:47 AM

eeeeeek. i hate statements like this.
i feel like is analogous to "english majors are mostly liberal", "people who listen to metal are probably devil worshipers", etc etc

i think this line of thinking is the A+, #1 reason that people with tattoos or piercings are not welcome in most professional places.
they are automatically not seen as fit for the job.

i mean i guess it's understandable why someone would think that,
but be careful before you are subconsciously hardwired to assume you are smarter than any god fearing republican, or that you need to be black to be a good basketball player, or a man to be an engineer.

generalizations are dangerous ground.

[Edited on May 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM. Reason : sedfsd]

5/15/2011 2:02:46 AM

^^Yeah but Al Gore made the internet.

[Edited on May 15, 2011 at 2:03 AM. Reason : ofc too slow]

5/15/2011 2:02:50 AM

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"I guess you think atheists must be bummed out and depressed all the time since they aren't the center of the universe like Christians are but really, we're fine."

swing and a miss. you have more to worry about or think about, even a minuta of difference here over a lifetime can add up in a large population. there's much more to it that i'm frankly too lazy at 2 am to type or explain. but suffice it to say, you're much more narrow minded, (yourself and atheists as a group) than others. (note: not all others ofc, but then again I expect that to be the next thing to dribble out of your brain and fingers to wind up here on tww as your feeble "rebuttal")

[Edited on May 15, 2011 at 2:04 AM. Reason : ^ lullz, well played]

5/15/2011 2:03:18 AM

if you're not a liberal in your 20's you're heartless, and if you're not a republican in your 50's you're an idiot

5/15/2011 9:07:45 AM

pretty sure this is well known, why do you think all trailer park people are republican, its opiate for the dumb

5/15/2011 9:17:02 AM

pretty sure this is well known, saps likes to make stuff up and post it on the internet from time to time

5/15/2011 9:19:52 AM

pretty sure this is well known, saps likes to make stuff up and post it on the internet from time to time sometimes with the sole reason of angering biofreak70

[Edited on May 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM. Reason : .]

5/15/2011 9:23:46 AM

How exactly are atheist less open minded?

5/15/2011 9:25:35 AM

The atheist has claimed "There is no God."

Doesn't that force an atheist to put everything they see and experience into a defined pattern of having an explainable reason? And if something happens that they can't explain, how does an atheist respond?

5/15/2011 10:16:23 AM

what grinds my gears is when you vote there are only 2 choices, so to vote for less govt you get stuck with the religious nut jobs as a package deal

5/15/2011 10:16:48 AM

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"And if something happens that they can't explain, how does an atheist respond?"

I can't explain how nuclear fusion works...does that mean I have to default to believing in a God?

5/15/2011 10:22:41 AM

Yes. The only options are (1) being omniscient or (2) believing in the existence of a magical, mystical, omniscient sky-daddy.

There are no other choices.

5/15/2011 10:25:15 AM

Every self proclaimed atheist I've ever met, I'd actually classify as agnostic.


They just don't get the attention whoring by calling themselves agnostic

5/15/2011 11:12:32 AM

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"Doesn't that force an atheist to put everything they see and experience into a defined pattern of having an explainable reason?"

no.

Quote :

"And if something happens that they can't explain, how does an atheist respond?"

"I can't explain what just happened. Now, I'll go investigate why that thing happened (after I get done hitting this bowl and beating off and finishing watching this episode of The Wire)," says the (this) atheist.

5/15/2011 11:22:33 AM

Note that this doesn't preclude the existence of mindless idiot liberals like the OP.

5/15/2011 12:49:39 PM

Are you inferring the OP is a sheep?

5/15/2011 1:25:23 PM

who isn't a sheep?

5/15/2011 1:31:09 PM

I suppose that I would classify myself as agnostic *, but I think I get more irked by evangelical atheists than I do by evangelical Christians. Self-righteous, holier-than-thou motherfuckers...the great majority of Southern Baptists that everyone loves to hate have nothing on these types.


* My personal belief is that there may or may not be a God, and if there is, various tenets held to by different religions and sects may or may not be right. I am not at all hostile to the notion of God; I just feel that trying to know and understand is an exercise in futility, so I live my life on the premise that I don't and can't know.

5/15/2011 1:43:23 PM

^that is exactly how I view being agnostic (which is what I am)... I'm also a libertarian- where do I fall in all of this mess?

5/15/2011 1:48:56 PM

If were all sheep, then shouldn't we have a shepherd?


You see where I'm going with this...

5/15/2011 2:03:08 PM