I know this is chit chat but this is serious.


Why did we stop annexing at Texas? Why didn't we annex Mexico? There is talk about the drug cartels winning the war against Mexico, especially in Monterrey.

If the drug cartels win, are we allowed to annex Mexico and clean it up?

6/1/2011 5:51:21 PM

BTW how's the pizza biz these days?

6/1/2011 5:53:30 PM

I failed according to TWW :/

6/1/2011 5:56:20 PM

You annex places to control their resources

and we already have enough DVD players and Mexicans

6/1/2011 5:57:04 PM

Mexicans can have 2/5th vote.

6/1/2011 6:05:59 PM

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"Why did we stop annexing at Texas?"

We realized that what we got out of the deal was Texas, and that points south were even worse.

Also, we had to stop and fight each other over what to do with black people.

6/1/2011 7:30:43 PM

people who probably have confederate flags and don't understand the civil war ITT

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

6/1/2011 7:52:58 PM

the rio grande provided a nice clean division.

6/1/2011 7:59:13 PM

Texas was an independent country that wanted to join.

6/1/2011 8:07:15 PM

The cartel is winning because we are giving them guns and power with the "war on drugs".

/fuck reagan

6/1/2011 8:07:45 PM

I would very much like to hear astraladvent's take on the civil war

6/1/2011 10:17:56 PM

where else would we run when we get in trubz with the law

6/1/2011 10:19:35 PM

Civil war week on History has been good, check it out if you have a chance.

6/1/2011 10:20:31 PM

the easiest answer is that the south wanted to annex a lot more of mexico than we did because the north shot it down viewing it as an expansion of slavery

6/1/2011 10:23:38 PM

That river was too wide to cross

6/2/2011 12:39:35 AM

texas became a state in 1845
civil war started in 1861

6/2/2011 12:41:59 AM

so?

6/2/2011 12:49:31 AM

people who probably have confederate flags and don't understand the civil war ITT

6/2/2011 12:50:07 AM

lol

6/2/2011 12:51:42 AM

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"All Mexico After the election of Polk, but before he took office, Congress approved the annexation of Texas. Polk moved to occupy a portion of Texas which was also claimed by Mexico, paving the way for the outbreak of the Mexican-American War on April 24, 1846. With American successes on the battlefield, by the summer of 1847 there were calls for the annexation of "All Mexico," particularly among Eastern Democrats, who argued that bringing Mexico into the Union was the best way to ensure future peace in the region.[23] This was a controversial proposition for two reasons. First, idealistic advocates of Manifest Destiny like John L. O'Sullivan had always maintained that the laws of the United States should not be imposed on people against their will. The annexation of "All Mexico" would be a violation of this principle. And secondly, the annexation of Mexico was controversial because it would mean extending U.S. citizenship to millions of Mexicans. Senator John C. Calhoun of South Carolina, who had approved of the annexation of Texas, was opposed to the annexation of Mexico, as well as the "mission" aspect of Manifest Destiny, for racial reasons. He made these views clear in a speech to Congress on January 4, 1848: [W]e have never dreamt of incorporating into our Union any but the Caucasian race—the free white race. To incorporate Mexico, would be the very first instance of the kind, of incorporating an Indian race; for more than half of the Mexicans are Indians, and the other is composed chiefly of mixed tribes. I protest against such a union as that! Ours, sir, is the Government of a white race.... We are anxious to force free government on all; and I see that it has been urged ... that it is the mission of this country to spread civil and religious liberty over all the world, and especially over this continent. It is a great mistake.[24] This debate brought to the forefront one of the contradictions of Manifest Destiny: on the one hand, while racist ideas inherent in Manifest Destiny suggested that Mexicans, as non-whites, were a lesser race and thus not qualified to become Americans, the "mission" component of Manifest Destiny suggested that Mexicans would be improved (or "regenerated," as it was then described) by bringing them into American democracy. Racism was used to promote Manifest Destiny, but, as in the case of Calhoun and the resistance to the "All Mexico" movement, racism was also used to oppose Manifest Destiny "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_Destiny#All_Mexico

6/2/2011 12:52:36 AM

I totally forgot that whites ruled the world back then.


We are so fucking stupid for giving up all that power we had it MADE

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6/2/2011 1:01:11 AM