The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
June 23rd
The road to being better than the heat starts here.
First Round:
1. Cleveland Cavaliers, 2. Minnesota Timberwolves, 3. Utah Jazz, 4. Cleveland Cavaliers, 5. Toronto Raptors, 6. Washington Wizards, 7. Sacramento Kings, 8. Detroit Pistons, 9. Charlotte Bobcats, 10. Milwaukee Bucks, 11. Golden State Warriors, 12. Utah Jazz, 13. Phoenix Suns, 14. Houston Rockets, 15. Indiana Pacers, 16. Philadelphia 76ers, 17. New York Knicks, 18. Washington Wizards, 19. Charlotte Bobcats, 20. Minnesota Timberwolves, 21. Portland Trail Blazers, 22. Denver Nuggets, 23. Houston Rockets, 24. Oklahoma City Thunder, 25. Boston Celtics, 26. Dallas Mavericks, 27. New Jersey Nets, 28. Chicago Bulls, 29. San Antonio Spurs, 30. Chicago Bulls
Second Round:
31. Miami Heat (from Minnesota Timberwolves), 32. Cleveland Cavaliers, 33. Detroit Pistons (from Toronto Raptors), 34. Washington Wizards, 35. Sacramento Kings, 36. New Jersey Nets, 37. Los Angeles Clippers, 38. Houston Rockets, 39. Charlotte Bobcats, 40. Milwaukee Bucks, 41. Los Angeles Lakers, 42. Indiana Pacers, 43. Chicago Bulls, 44. Golden State Warriors, 45. New Orleans Hornets, 46. Los Angeles Lakers, 47. Los Angeles Clippers, 48. Atlanta Hawks, 49. Memphis Grizzlies, 50. Philadelphia 76ers, 51. Portland Trail Blazers, 52. Denver Nuggets, 53. Orlando Magic, 54. Cleveland Cavaliers, 55. Boston Celtics, 56. Los Angeles Lakers, 57. Dallas Mavericks, 58. Los Angeles Lakers, 59. San Antonio Spurs, 60. Sacramento Kings
I think the cavs should take williams #1 and roll the dice on one of those foreign centers at #2. The risk is higher but the potential reward on those guys is much better than a pg. There will be guards all the time and they have 2 second round picks that they can use on leftover guards like nolan smith.
I am also excited for the knicks to go for the jimmer. I think dantonecould nashionalize him in that offense.
[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 3:44 PM. Reason : big draft for utah]
6/8/2011 3:41:17 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
cant wait to do the name image thing 6/8/2011 3:42:19 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
i want the Bobcats to take Alec Burks or Klay Thompson at #9
at #19, just take someone who isn't a pencil thin Frenchie, take someone who can actually contribute ] 6/8/2011 3:47:39 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
6/8/2011 4:12:38 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck the world if this happens
Fuck the world
6/8/2011 4:29:32 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i would lol all the way to loltown and buy a roflburger on the way 6/8/2011 4:31:40 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@JonRothstein Jon Rothstein Word is NC State's Tracy Smith had a terrific workout w the Pistons yesterday. Potential 2nd round pick is down 25 pounds since end of yr. " |
6/8/2011 4:53:44 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
I somewhere recently that Nash could be dealt by the Suns for picks that they would package to move up to #2 and nab home state hero Williams.
Should be interesting to see
a) who is interested in Nash at this point in his career
and
b) what they could actually get for him 6/8/2011 5:01:35 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
the other day they said that Nash might be used to mentor Rubio
ill believe all that mess when i see it though 6/8/2011 5:19:39 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
knicks could use nash 6/8/2011 5:30:10 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
I would lol if the Knicks took Selby at 17. It would be an Isiah Thomas-like move by the front office. 6/8/2011 6:00:47 PM |
federal All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
i saw tracy smith at crabtree and he is looking a lot slimmer. here's hoping for a high second round pick to a good team. 6/8/2011 6:40:55 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Wait, the Clippers don't pick until #37? 6/8/2011 10:20:20 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
^^with the weight loss, i hope he is still rockin' the Teddy Pendergrass beard
[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 10:23 PM. Reason : ^they traded their 1st pick to the Cavs in exchange for taking on Baron Davis' enormous contract] 6/8/2011 10:22:43 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
I thought he actually looked very slimmed down last November before the injury.
^It just feels just doesn't feel right without the Clippers having a high lottery pick.
[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 10:26 PM. Reason : ..] 6/8/2011 10:23:45 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
How high could the Bobcats trade up for the #9 and #19? I'm thinking 5-7, but Derrick Williams seems like the only guy worth giving up both picks for and he'll be long gone.
Damn this shitty draft 6/8/2011 11:59:33 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
they can just take 2 UNC guys with those picks. 6/9/2011 12:02:41 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
tracy to the pistons in the 2nd 6/9/2011 12:04:45 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
I just feel like Irving is a little overrated and that williams is a sleeping Blake Griffin. 6/9/2011 1:29:53 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
you followed college basketball this year, right?
i don't think anybody's sleeping on Williams 6/9/2011 7:30:26 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
9 and 19 won't be worth a 1 or 2, and the 9 pick is about as good at 3 in this draft... 6/9/2011 7:36:08 AM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
no need to trade up, if anything i would be ok with the 'Cats trading one of the picks for a pick next year. i don't know what kind of value you'll find at #19, but they should at least be able to fill a huge need in a scoring SG or SF at #9. 6/9/2011 7:38:17 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Tracy in the 2nd round?
http://network.yardbarker.com/college_basketball/article_external/get_to_know_your_2nd_rounders_tracy_smith/4712100 6/9/2011 5:21:37 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i think Kemba's gonna be a stud
lot of people say he'll go at 5 to Toronto though 6/9/2011 5:48:10 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NBA draft notebook: Will Smith be a steal?
June 15, 2011 Tracy Smith isn't listed on many NBA mock drafts. A lot of people don't even know he played in the powerful ACC, where he spent four seasons as a power forward at N.C. State.
And if Smith didn't say it, you probably wouldn't guess he has a strong connection with the Cavaliers' J.J. Hickson.
But there is something about Smith that is beginning to intrigue scouts. Something he is showing on the pre-draft workout circuit that is starting to make teams take him seriously.
It's more than just a batch of skills that has Smith drawing comparisons to Samardo Samuels — another Cavs big man who showed flashes during his rookie year, despite not being drafted. Most NBA types also seem to admire Smith's work ethic, determination and always-underrated desire to prove everyone wrong.
"Not seeing my name on a draft board makes me work harder," Smith told FOX Sports Ohio on a recent drive through Ohio to his home state of Michigan. "It fuels me a lot."
Smith is 6-foot-8 and averaged 14 points this past season. He missed 10 games early in the year with a knee injury, ruining his chance to pad his stats against non-conference opponents.
Scouts liked his talent but not his weight — as Smith checked in at a little more than 260 pounds. But that was three months ago.
Today, he's down to 238, having eliminated sweets and switching to diet soda. He is also putting in extra time at the gym.
The result was an inspiring workout in Detroit, and now, more opportunities to impress other teams, with more workouts to follow.
"His post game has been great, especially with his back to the basket," said one scout. "With all the weight, he lost a lot of explosion. Now, he has that back and a little bit more quickness."
Smith's story is the one you rarely hear. He is one of those guys who gets lost in all the hype, and those draft web sites that tend to focus on 20 or 30 prospects — and know very little about anyone else. The same thing happened to Samuels and New York guard Landry Fields last summer. It happens, in fact, every summer.
But sometimes, those are the guys you want. Guys who don't enter the league thinking the world should bow at the mere mention of their name.
"I would bring rebounding and defense to a team, and a lot of energy," Smith said. "And a little scoring."
Nothing drastic. Just a young athlete who knows his role.
Smith developed a relationship with Hickson during their freshmen year at N.C. State. Hickson declared for the draft after that season and the Cavs selected him with the 19th overall pick in 2008.
They remain close today, and Smith believes having Hickson in his ear only helps.
"Me and J.J. grew up together, played AAU and (at) the ABCD camp, and bonded real well," Smith said. "We stayed in the same room and shared an apartment. I've been talking to him and he's been telling me more about the NBA. He said it's tough, it's very physical and you have to bring it every night. Otherwise you'll be in trouble."
Right now, bringing it every night, or in every workout, is exactly what Smith is trying to do. He hopes the result will be sneaking his way into the draft or landing a free-agent invitation to someone's training camp.
"I'm gonna keep working hard and pushing," Smith said. "Whatever team I end up with will have someone to help them win."" |
http://www.foxsportsohio.com/06/15/11/NBA-draft-notebook-Smith-aims-to-become-/landing_cavaliers.html?blockID=532821&feedID=35616/16/2011 12:37:07 PM |
CHunter2 All American 579 Posts user info edit post |
Tracy and JJ on the same team would be pretty awesome from a State fans perspective. Also, fitting that Cavs are horrible. 6/16/2011 12:50:45 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Will Smith? 6/16/2011 12:54:28 PM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "having eliminated sweets and switching to diet soda" |
NEWS FLASH: DIET SODA'S ARE CONSIDERED 'SWEETS'6/16/2011 12:59:23 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
They don't make you fat. They give you cancer, but anyone would rather get cancer than be fat. 6/16/2011 1:48:22 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
studies are saying they do make you fat b/c they trick your body into wanting more calories, or something like that. and aspartame cancer. 6/16/2011 2:03:37 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
just drink that Vitamin Water
50 says so 6/16/2011 2:03:49 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
vitamin water tastes like crap 6/16/2011 2:04:58 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
yes it's awful
more like medicine water 6/16/2011 2:06:40 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck studies. Just don't eat cookies and ice cream or drink soda and beer. Some people's lack of willpower baffles me. 6/16/2011 2:08:11 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
while tracy was hurt he was probably munching on ho-ho's and twinkies, washing it down with a 2 liter of cola 6/16/2011 2:10:46 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "vitamin water tastes like crap" |
Every flavor is a completely different drink. To say that a brand taste bad isn't fair. Multi V and defense are quite wonderful.6/16/2011 10:09:23 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Every flavor is a completely different drink." |
i have tried like 5 or 6 kinds. they all taste like crap.6/17/2011 9:44:59 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
ok, ill rephrase as "every vitamin water flavor ive had tastes like crap" and that's about 3 flavors that i cant remember
ibtyoucantchooseagoodflavor! 6/17/2011 9:47:01 AM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
tracy? defense? what? 6/17/2011 1:11:11 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
the "NBA Draft Combine" is on ESPNU 6/17/2011 7:22:03 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
One time I barfed up a Vitamin Water on St. Mary's, near Wade Ave 6/17/2011 7:27:14 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I did the same thing with a Gatorade Frost 6/17/2011 8:39:40 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
so I wonder if the wolves are just going to play derrick williams and beasley together 6/20/2011 2:28:26 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
They need an effin point guard bad because odds are that Ricky Rubio will be a huge flop next season. I think that they should shop this pick for someone like brandon knight.
[Edited on June 20, 2011 at 8:07 PM. Reason : fg] 6/20/2011 8:07:03 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
You can't spend 3 top 5 picks on a PG in 3 years
They're not the Detroit Lions 6/20/2011 8:10:33 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
taylor zarzour thinks that packaging the #9, #19, gerald henderson, and captain jack to the wolves for the #2 pick (to be used on derrick williams) is a great deal for the bobcats 6/20/2011 8:13:32 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
whats the deal on rubio anyhow? do people still expect him to be good, I think I remember someone telling me his stock had gone downhill 6/20/2011 8:15:27 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Zsa Zsa Gabor thinks thats way too much to give up for someone who's had one good season and isn't close to Durant/Griffin level talent. 6/20/2011 8:16:04 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Thats awful. 6/20/2011 8:16:13 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Like we're supposed to know the other guy 6/20/2011 8:21:40 PM |