Popular rapper criticizes fellow Chicagoan

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"My fight against terrorism, to me, the biggest terrorist is Obama in the United States of America. I'm trying to fight the terrorism that's actually causing the other forms of terrorism. You know, the root cause of terrorism is the stuff the U.S. government allows to happen. The foreign policies that we have in place in different countries that inspire people to become terrorists."

Read more at http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/123467904.html

Lupe speaks the truth here; terrorism is a predictable consequence of U.S. foreign policy. If you want to reduce or eliminate terrorism in the long run, we have to change policies. I'm glad to see that Obama is being called out for his warmongering.

6/9/2011 4:17:00 PM

I call lupe fiasco a terrorist of interesting hip hop lyrics

dude puts me to sleep

[Edited on June 9, 2011 at 4:18 PM. Reason : e]

6/9/2011 4:17:56 PM

this

changes

EVERYTHING

6/9/2011 4:18:47 PM

Yeah, well, d357roy3r, you're a fucking Loyalist, because if we had never rebelled from Britain in the first place, we wouldn't have these problems today.

You and your fellow tories can go fuck yourselves.

6/9/2011 4:20:42 PM

More Black on Black crime. Where was this idiot when Bush was going terminator on IRAQ for nothing?

6/9/2011 4:21:06 PM

in the house washing his dishes

6/9/2011 4:21:37 PM

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"Yeah, well, d357roy3r, you're a fucking Loyalist, because if we had never rebelled from Britain in the first place, we wouldn't have these problems today. "

Stunning logic, man. Who knows what problems we would have, because that would have been an entirely different timeline.

We had a revolution because the British government was oppressive. Thomas Jefferson had this to say concerning foreign policy:

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"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none."

How does that match up with our current foreign policy?

6/9/2011 4:27:27 PM

that's why he didn't vote for him. next one neitha.




PS, Lupe also thinks the govt caused 9/11...soooo.....

[Edited on June 9, 2011 at 4:30 PM. Reason : ]

6/9/2011 4:28:52 PM

My problem is I'm peaceful.

6/9/2011 4:30:18 PM

paging lazarus to explain why our aggressive and inhumane military policy is a-ok

[Edited on June 9, 2011 at 4:41 PM. Reason : .]

6/9/2011 4:41:38 PM

This is along the same lines as the company janitor saying Obama is a terrorist

6/9/2011 4:59:00 PM

a pop culture celebrity criticizing a politician?

say it aint so

6/9/2011 5:00:48 PM

somebody find ja rule so i can make sense of all this

6/9/2011 5:04:32 PM

tell him to run for president, otherwise shut the FUCK up. I have always been Pro president thats in office bc unless the nigga gets shot or impeached he is in office for at least 4 years maybe 8 nothin you can do about it

6/9/2011 5:05:18 PM

this is the first time a nigger has been in office

6/9/2011 5:06:39 PM

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

6/9/2011 5:13:15 PM

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"tell him to run for president, otherwise shut the FUCK up. I have always been Pro president thats in office bc unless the nigga gets shot or impeached he is in office for at least 4 years maybe 8 nothin you can do about it"

C'mon, man - you can't be honest and get elected. It's all about conning the people into thinking you're a good person without them knowing what you actually stand for.

Obama has been no different than Bush in regards to foreign policy. He has continued both wars. He has started a new war in Libya, and we we've been doing covert bombings in Yemen.

6/9/2011 5:30:14 PM

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"somebody find ja rule so i can make sense of all this"

Came in here to post that

[Edited on June 9, 2011 at 5:43 PM. Reason : Where is Ja!]

6/9/2011 5:43:14 PM

lol like anyone cares what some mediocre singer has to say, like he's any different from any other citizen.

also, the way that statement is written suggests he doesn't know a damn thing about policies.

[Edited on June 9, 2011 at 5:45 PM. Reason : .]

6/9/2011 5:44:27 PM

It sounds like he may know a lot more than the average American.

6/9/2011 5:55:32 PM

I hate to say it but we're damned if we do, damned if we don't.

Any move towards isolationism is retarded in an increasingly globalized marketplace, yet cultural clashes with the middle east (and the far east to some extent) further complicate logistics, trade, and international law. We're left with the inevitable, and unenviable, situation of "no matter what we do, someone will be pissed at us."

Simply put, there is no way to conduct foreign policy without SOMEONE wanting to kill you. Before the middle east, it was the commies. Before the commies, the mexicans. Before the mexicans, the spanish. Before the spanish, the british. When we were british, it was the french/indians.

So instead of bending over backwards by any means for peace (which in most cases involves such a sacrifice of self-interest that neither you, nor I, could fully grasp it's effect), we do the best we can given the situations we are presented, with a strong preference towards diplomacy but a finger on the trigger at all times.

As an IDF General once told me, "you can do a lot with a smile. You can do even more with a smile and a gun."

That doesn't make us terrorists. It makes us opportunistic and self-serving. Is that bad? Yes and No. Ultimately, the global marketplace (economically and ideologically) is not in the business of altruism.

I do find irony in that the same system that has given him his platform to speak his mind (however misguided it may be) is the one of which he is so passionately critical. But according to him, I'm probably a terrorist too, so what do I know...

Though it does beg the question: What foreign policies is he talking about specifically? And I don't mean "the one in the middle east." If he's going to be so flippant, I'd like to know which policy is so awful...


SRY WOLFWEB I'LL STOP NOW.

6/9/2011 6:12:04 PM

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"somebody find ja rule so i can make sense of all this"

win

6/9/2011 6:17:17 PM

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"Any move towards isolationism is retarded"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-interventionism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolationism

Two entirely different foreign policies. Ideally, we would let people work out their own problems, rather than trying to determine winners and losers across the globe. I would think Lupe Fiasco is referring to our Middle East involvement - the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, the drone attacks in various Middle Eastern countries, our involvement with Iran through the latter half of the 20th century.

People in the Middle East don't always see that we're there to "help" - they just know Ahmad got blown up by U.S. cruise missiles. If we actually aim to prevent and eliminate terrorism, we have to figure out what motivates terrorists to commit these heinous crimes. This doesn't mean "negotiating with the enemy" or anything of the sort, it means analyzing our own foreign policy and determining if, just maybe, our foreign involvement is serving as the motivation. I believe it is, and we as Americans would be safer if the troops we back at home defending the borders. We also wouldn't be in so much trouble economically.

6/9/2011 6:29:40 PM

i say keep building up the military [bold]just in case[/bold] to many china men for my liking and dont we owe them like trillions of dollars when are they going to ask for that shit back

6/9/2011 6:36:36 PM

this is real, hard-hitting, important news.

6/9/2011 6:41:37 PM

Hence the placement in shit chat.

6/9/2011 6:51:16 PM

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"If he's going to be so flippant, I'd like to know which policy is so awful..."

If one of his songs is any indication, at least part of it stems from Obama not saying shit about bombings in the Gaza Strip.

6/9/2011 6:51:33 PM

^What about 9/11? Building 7? Did they really pull it?

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"Popular rapper criticizes fellow Chicagoan black guy"

[Edited on June 9, 2011 at 7:06 PM. Reason : ]

6/9/2011 6:58:33 PM

^and a buncha other cover ups.

6/9/2011 10:52:05 PM

Wonder if Obama is going to kick or push him out of the country, and whether it be into Mexico, Canada, or either the east or west coastttttt

6/9/2011 10:56:55 PM

He'll just ask him if he wants to go to sleep in Paris, or wake up in Tokyo.

Perhaps have a dream in New Orleans.

He will not be falling in love in Chicago.

6/9/2011 11:23:42 PM

^^probably gulf coast

6/9/2011 11:43:47 PM

Why did Bush knock down the towers?

6/9/2011 11:50:41 PM

George W. Bush Barack Obama doesn't care about black people

6/10/2011 12:21:03 AM

I believe he called him an a-mer-ee-can terroriiiiisssst

6/10/2011 1:22:54 AM

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"I'm trying to fight the terrorism that's actually causing the other forms of terrorism"

well at least we now now that this man may or may not be self-hating terrorist

[Edited on June 10, 2011 at 1:46 AM. Reason : NOW NOW]

6/10/2011 1:46:01 AM

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"More Black on Black crime. Where was this idiot when Bush was going terminator on IRAQ for nothing?"

idk but imo calling him a terrist too

6/10/2011 7:28:55 AM