give me reasons please. i have yet to hear one that makes sense.

6/9/2011 10:05:22 PM

people are DTF

6/9/2011 10:05:47 PM

^this.

also bloodlines actually mean something to a lot of people.

6/9/2011 10:06:41 PM

what is dtf?

6/9/2011 10:07:30 PM

I know a lot of people who are adopted or have adopted. I think it's more common than a lot of people realize, but it's a private family matter that isn't public knowledge.

6/9/2011 10:07:30 PM

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"also bloodlines actually mean something to a lot of people."

why

6/9/2011 10:07:32 PM

I heard adoption is expensive and you have to fill out a bunch of paperwork. Its a lot more to fuck and see what happens, imo.

[Edited on June 9, 2011 at 10:08 PM. Reason : fix]

6/9/2011 10:08:03 PM

If you adopt, you miss out on the whole 9 month pregnancy experience... Experiencing that part of nature/life is important to a lot of people.

Oh and I'm sure its also because it's easier to have your own kid (assuming you are capable) than going through a child adoption process. My aunt had a helluva time adopting her two children, but then again, I understand YMMV.

6/9/2011 10:08:10 PM

having a baby is expensive and you have to fill out a lot of paperwork

6/9/2011 10:08:41 PM

but you still get to fuck a lot

6/9/2011 10:09:23 PM

at least once

6/9/2011 10:09:50 PM

Snooki is adopted.

And now she goes out n fucks n stuff

D
T
F

So my stance on this issue is...

exactly

6/9/2011 10:10:10 PM

who wants some reject baby?

6/9/2011 10:10:16 PM

I always wanted to adopt. Its a win win. If the kid is a success its due to outstanding parenting. If the kid is a fuckup, its all the fault of genetics.

6/9/2011 10:11:03 PM

hahahaha

6/9/2011 10:11:38 PM

another thing to note is a large number of pregnancies aren't planned

6/9/2011 10:11:42 PM

Unfortunately, it's not easy to adopt a child...

Some countries have specific rules about the parent, some being they have to be under a certain BMI... and in our own country it's hard to adopt a kid.

6/9/2011 10:12:00 PM

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"at least once "

Not necessarily. Could be a false/fake story, but a co-worker of mine told me about this story about this girl who gave a guy a blow job, didn't swallow, ran to the bathroom, and stuffed his juices inside her. She got preggers and now has him paying child support. Could somone verify this story or is my co-worker an idiot?

6/9/2011 10:12:49 PM

Perhaps it's the tangible persistence of one's DNA. Complete with the combined positives and negatives accumulated throughout hundreds or thousands of years of procreation.

Also it sounds better to me than taking over the development of someones failed abortion.

6/9/2011 10:12:50 PM

I wouldn't be opposed to adopting but I've always wanted a child or two of my own. How does anyone think that "doesn't make sense?"

I just need to get on finding a girl who shares that view

6/9/2011 10:13:03 PM

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"I adoption is expensive and you have to fill out a bunch of paperwork. Its a lot more to fuck, imo."

I hear this a lot but it's only a couple thousand through a foster home. Even private agencies are only between $5-40k (info from adoption.com) Delivery of a baby alone is around $8k.

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"If you adopt, you miss out on the whole 9 month pregnancy experience... Experiencing that part of nature/life is important to a lot of people."

I guess I will never understand a woman's desire to have a little thing squirming around in their belly. As a man, I wouldn't want to see my wife go through pregnancy and childbirth.

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"Some countries have specific rules about the parent, some being they have to be under a certain BMI... and in our own country it's hard to adopt a kid."

Yeah but mothers claim that childbirth is the worst pain imaginable. How could the adoption process be worse?

6/9/2011 10:13:14 PM

fuck you haters

6/9/2011 10:13:51 PM

well..

without getting personal....

someone recently showed back up in my family who actually was adopted to another family basically at birth and with the information age tracked down his mother and now is after his piece of her money

I guess you can't escape your douchebag family. There's something to be said for DNA. fuckers

[Edited on June 9, 2011 at 10:16 PM. Reason : out of politeness he waited until both his parents died before reaching out to bio fam]

6/9/2011 10:14:51 PM

It can be much worse because you can be promised a child, then the country could put all adoptions on hold for 2 years, then you might be able to adopt somewhere else, and find out you're not "qualified" (even if you have a professional degree and clean record)


They need to totally redo the adoption system, imo


If you want to see how horrible it is (including foster care), read "A Piece of Cake" by Cupcake Brown

6/9/2011 10:15:37 PM

EXPENSIVE!

I never got why it was but didn't look fully into the reason.

6/9/2011 10:15:47 PM

Probably because they have to pay foster parents to take care of the children

then pay people to do paperwork, etc... though I think it could be cheaper

6/9/2011 10:16:49 PM

Chit Chat: you never know when your heartfelt advice will be immediately followed by a picture of a penis

6/9/2011 10:17:17 PM

[Edited on June 9, 2011 at 10:18 PM. Reason : .]

6/9/2011 10:18:31 PM

Also, I hate to say it, but... some people don't feel a child that didn't come from a pregnancy they created is truly "theirs."

6/9/2011 10:18:51 PM

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"EXPENSIVE! I never got why it was but didn't look fully into the reason."

its not as expensive as you think. read my last post.

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"If you want to see how horrible it is (including foster care), read "A Piece of Cake" by Cupcake Brown"

I'll check it out I know foster care is horrible. More reason to take a kid or two out of it.

6/9/2011 10:19:15 PM

In regards to your price range, I've never heard of an adoption only costing $5... and to say $5-40 is a crazy big range. I have always heard $30-40 (at least).


I think one thing that blew my mind were the people who were willing to pay $Texas on multiple rounds of IVF, but wouldn't adopt.

6/9/2011 10:21:28 PM

you expect me to raise anotha niggas kids fuck that

6/9/2011 10:21:52 PM

6/9/2011 10:23:06 PM

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"I hear this a lot but it's only a couple thousand through a foster home. Even private agencies are only between $5-40k (info from adoption.com) Delivery of a baby alone is around $8k."

It's not even that much. Most expenses are paid when you adopt through the social services. For various inspections and stuff, we have probably paid a few hundred all told for our boys thus far and we get a monthly stipend for their expenses. It definitely is a pain in the ass to go through the bureaucracy though. Took us about 2 years from the time we started until we had a placement.

Private adoptions are definitely $texas, though, especially if you go out of country. Alot of countries actually view adopted children as a revenue source.

6/9/2011 10:23:10 PM

biting tongue

6/9/2011 10:23:31 PM

Hell, even my uncle who adopted a son tells me I am the only true male heir to my family name. (in patriarchal terms anyways. )

course he loves his adopted son...who now has a baby of his own. so two generations actually outside of the family.

didn't think about that til just now. neat.

6/9/2011 10:23:42 PM

There is a lot that you cannot control (like environmental exposures) when you adopt. There are a lot of children in the system that are the products of poor prenatal care, drugs, alcohol, and other fetal detriments. Some people do not feel prepared to handle all of that and feel that they can at least control that much with their own pregnancy.

6/9/2011 10:25:31 PM

Cool story bro

6/9/2011 10:25:41 PM

I am adopted and it kind of sucks ass. I know that everyone in my family loves me unconditionally and i love them the same, but there is always this feeling -not that i don't belong but- maybe there is somewhere else that i should be. I think my family (and the second family i had at school) provided me with a pretty strong sense of community and simultaneously a sense of independence and if i hadn't i would've rather had been aborted. Fuck going through the foster system and fuck being raised in families where siblings/extended family don't care about you. I know a few people who go through that and it bleeds into every aspect of their being.

Long story short:

I'm adopted, and i'm very in favor of abortion. Not because i wish i was dead or anything, (i don't because i'm the shit and it would suck ass for y'all if i wasn't here) but other people have shitty ass lives and get trapped in the same cycle as their parents.

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

[Edited on June 9, 2011 at 10:27 PM. Reason : seriously though. i am forever in debt to my wonderful mother and father ]

6/9/2011 10:25:42 PM

6/9/2011 10:26:31 PM

in before Joie

6/9/2011 10:26:37 PM

Quote :

"In regards to your price range, I've never heard of an adoption only costing $5... and to say $5-40 is a crazy big range. I have always heard $30-40 (at least)."

Got my numbers from here:
http://costs.adoption.com/articles/the-costs-of-adopting-a-factsheet-for-families.html

6/9/2011 10:26:41 PM

^^^^there's an intervention episode about that

[Edited on June 9, 2011 at 10:27 PM. Reason : ^]

6/9/2011 10:27:33 PM

que d7freestyla with the "this is joiebtw" edit

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

6/9/2011 10:27:35 PM

don't want another man's seed in my house!

6/9/2011 10:28:12 PM

Its hard to love something tat didn't come from your penis.

6/9/2011 10:28:49 PM

I can't believe it costs that much money to adopt (on top of what it costs to raise a child) but then again the adoption agencies have to have money to function....raising a kid from birth to 18 is close to $250,000 on average I think

6/9/2011 10:29:16 PM

gotta be more than that

6/9/2011 10:30:42 PM

actually if i married a chick and she couldnt have a child i would def adopt, i want to be a dad more than i want to be a dad of a child from my loins i would love them regardless just not anytime soon im still a big ass kid my damn self

6/9/2011 10:30:59 PM

i plan to adopt

6/9/2011 10:31:59 PM