Yeah they probably assume production vehicle means more than 1k per year.


All I care is that this thing sells like hot cakes and those engines go for peanuts on eBay :-)

But I mean this is Enzo power... In a ford.... From the factory with no pully kit or anything yet.

So today we learned the zl1 camaro will cost 56k and the gt500 will have 70 more hp and weigh a lot less....
Hmm

11/15/2011 2:19:38 PM

Anyone want to bet that the 2013 Camaro ZL1 has 700hp?

11/15/2011 2:47:48 PM

THIS MEANS WARRR.... (no seriously this is the best thing that ever happened to a gear head)
THE MUSTANG HAS MORE POWER THEN A ZR1 which means it'll hit 700hp next year.


Seriously though chevy's gonna have to make a quad cam motor someday right?

11/15/2011 8:21:16 PM

95 Impreza coupe, obdI

11/17/2011 1:26:29 AM

E92 M3

C6 Z06

11/17/2011 1:32:25 AM

Typical lineup:

Lotus Elise
Lotus Exige S240
Porsche Cayman S
Porsche 944
Porsche 951

*sigh*

11/17/2011 1:38:37 AM

The new Lincoln design language sucks.

I can't wait to see what the new sti brings and hopefully carries over to the brz.

11/17/2011 6:58:08 AM

^Agreed and ditto the new Cadillac XTS. Looks like a tank and is a FWD based chassis with a V6 only. I guess they set their sights on Volvo, Lincoln and Acura with this new model? Because compared to comparable Audi, MB, BMW, Jaguar, Lexus or Infiniti models it is severely lacking.

11/17/2011 8:10:35 AM

Tacoma!

11/17/2011 9:01:28 AM

new garage?

11/17/2011 10:44:35 AM

lol... not only does the new gt500 have 650hp...

it also manages to dodge the gas-guzzler tax... bahahahah gg ford.

11/18/2011 9:10:24 PM

Audi A3 w/DSG. Dang it, maybe I'll just go ahead and buy one.

11/18/2011 9:11:26 PM

This will annihilate anything the M division can toss at it.


[Edited on November 21, 2011 at 1:52 PM. Reason : dammit autoblog not letting me post more pics]

11/21/2011 1:42:08 PM

Trailblazer SS

11/21/2011 1:53:31 PM

^respectable....

however it's still not as svelt as a Grand Cherokee SRT8

11/21/2011 2:37:27 PM

The new GC SRT8 is a big disappointing. It's like 500lbs heavier than the last one. WTF mate

11/21/2011 3:16:18 PM

^^ Maybe, but SRT8 Jenkems is pricey.

Still thinking about going to a "one vehicle" scenario. There's nothing wrong with my 4Runner or my Civic, but they're both pretty boring vehicles and I'm tired of upkeep on two vehicles with one parked outside under a tree canopy and one in the garage. I need to be able to tow ~3500 lbs on the regular and I can't seem to find a sedan other than the S60R that can make that claim. I could probably get around $20k for the two vehicles I have, so if I go to a single vehicle I'll probably try to keep it in that price range and try to be break even on it. SRT8's still seem to be in that $25k-$35k range from what I've seen.

Just thinking about simplifying things for a couple years until I can get some other stuff in order.
(Who am I kidding...If I had a spare parking spot at the house there would be an e30 beater there. )

I drove a Raptor F-150 around a little bit earlier this summer and enjoyed it. I'd be in one of those if they'd fall into the mid-$20k price range. I still haven't seen a used one anywhere near the price my buddy paid for his new and there's no way it's worth $40k-$50k+ to me.

[Edited on November 21, 2011 at 3:38 PM. Reason : s]

11/21/2011 3:31:20 PM

For once... all i'm doin is thinking about my own car.

11/21/2011 3:44:19 PM

^^Silverado SS? Hemi Ram?

you can get an SRT10 ram for $24k from carmax.....

[Edited on November 21, 2011 at 4:07 PM. Reason : -]

11/21/2011 4:07:07 PM

god i test drove one of those new....

it was just a burnout machine... i couldn't stop from blowing up the tires

11/21/2011 4:16:43 PM

^^ Not a fan of the SRT10 on looks or the 9MPG city rating. Plus it seems that most of them were single cab which wouldn't work for me.

Trailblazer SS versus Silverado SS is interesting. Personal preference for me is an SUV + a utility trailer over DD'ing a pickup truck. I already own a trailer with permanent plates so that makes it easier.

[Edited on November 21, 2011 at 4:18 PM. Reason : s]

11/21/2011 4:17:09 PM

no shame


I'd rather have the truck, though.

11/21/2011 4:28:55 PM

Quote :

"This will annihilate anything the M division can toss at it."

What is it exactly...an improved C63?

11/21/2011 4:32:21 PM

Somewhat. It's AMG's Black Series version of their C63.

510hp 457lb-ft 6.2 V8 (same engine as SLS, but detuned slightly)
rear seats ripped out, weight "reduced" to 3770lbs
front track widened 1.6 inches, rear track 3.1 inches
15.4 inch carbon ceramic front rotors
7 speed wet clutch automated manual transmission
fully mechanical (none of that electronic crap) rear limited slip differential with 60% lockup on accel and 50% on deccel that comes with it's own radiator
4° adjustable rear wing
manually adjustable carbon composite seats
all the exterior vents shown are functional

and God's own exhaust note (standard for any AMG with the 6.2)

Less than 100 coming to the US

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/2012-mercedes-benz-c63-amg-coupe-black-series-first-drive-review/

[Edited on November 21, 2011 at 4:50 PM. Reason : k]

11/21/2011 4:48:04 PM

Quote :

"Less than 100 coming to the US"

Not really a fair fight with the M3 then is it? More importantly isn't it going to cost more twice as much?

11/21/2011 5:16:32 PM

More like m3 csl competetor

11/21/2011 9:04:04 PM

^^when did I say it was a good M3 competitor?

^That or the M3 GTS, which isn't available in the US and costs $200k+ (and is slower than the AMG).

11/22/2011 8:25:47 AM

Quote :

"when did I say it was a good M3 competitor? "

Quote :

"This will annihilate anything the M division can toss at it."

11/25/2011 9:45:29 AM

see you're lost in the verbiage.

Since the M devision does make the m3 it is included but since it is not the only car the m division makes the price point is moot since the m devision also make the X6m M5 etc.

11/25/2011 12:53:32 PM

Drove an AP2 S2000 today. These cars have been on my mind a bit lately and I've been toying with the idea of one even though I sort of expected to hate it. I was pleasantly surprised with the interior and that I fit comfortably. A little noisy inside for a car with a stock exhaust but trivially so. I really liked the way it drove, the transmission was great, handling great, ride great, etc. I got into it assuming it would be a bit miserable at low revs just driving around town but in that respect I thought it had plenty of power. Unfortunately, I also assumed that fully wrung out it was going to shine and I came away underwhelmed. I'm sure its a great car screaming down a windy road but there just didn't seem to be enough power there to keep me happy.

I had been after an AP1 and maybe I would like that a little better. My thinking was that the top end and higher red line would be more impressive with less torque on hand but I don't think this is the car I'm looking for.

11/26/2011 10:18:19 PM

RIP Maybach

http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/28/autos/maybach_mercedes_shut_down.fortune/index.htm?

11/28/2011 12:03:12 PM

^^overall the AP2 has more power, but some feel it's not quite as visceral as the AP1. The car has minimal sound insulation and a thin top so compared to a regular car it is noisier. It is fast enough for most people on the street and it's sharp handling is bettered by only a few cars. Where they really shine though is on the track. In my (limited) experience it is a car that can be easily driven to it's limits and will hang with much (on paper) faster cars.

11/28/2011 12:54:00 PM

Quote :

"there just didn't seem to be enough power there to keep me happy."

don't you drive a juiced up 335 now? i don't see how anyone can get out of that and get into an S2000 and be happy with the power.

11/28/2011 12:57:02 PM

he likes 200-300whp cars

he has a turbo jetta beyond maxed out on the stock turbo and a turbo scirocco that has a good bit of power for a normal car.... but a shit ton of power for an 1800lb go-cart.

11/28/2011 1:08:54 PM

2012 Boss 302

444hp
7,500rpm
quad exhaust (tuneable side/rear exit)
'track key' engages alternate fuel/ignition mapping
sub 5-sec 0-60
sub 13-sec 1/4 mile

12/1/2011 4:15:58 PM

I have a loaner FIAT 500. Fun little car, clutch is super light... Stalled it twice today

12/2/2011 1:27:04 AM

^ I think those cars are great. My wife thinks less of me because of it

12/2/2011 1:33:33 AM

my wife still wants one... I'd like to ride around/drive one of the "convertibles" first though. Also, I'd like her to get a manual, but she doesn't know how to drive one :-/

12/2/2011 10:11:34 AM

this 2005 STi I've been driving for the past month

12/8/2011 11:29:01 AM

^^you know at some point nobody knew how to drive a manual. Then you sit down and say "okay I'll learn".

Fiat 500s have been selling like crap, you can probably get a good deal on one.

12/8/2011 11:44:54 AM

Fiat 500 only got a 3 star crash rating from NHTSA

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/08/fiat-500-nets-three-star-nhtsa-safety-rating-toyota-camry-and-c/

12/9/2011 10:18:17 AM

I still want a world market ranger diesel.

12/9/2011 10:55:55 AM

my Rx-7 because the heat just stopped working

12/9/2011 11:18:04 AM

I have to trouble shoot a vacuum leak on the 'roo this weekend.

12/9/2011 12:27:01 PM

How do you make a BMW 1M even better? Drop a small block Chevy V8 in it of course!



http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/08/this-bmw-1m-makes-550-hp-thanks-to-american-muscle-w-video/

12/9/2011 1:15:08 PM

^^^ my blower motor on my RX-7 doesnt work. I just ordered another off ebay. Hopefully that is the fix.

V8's make everything better.

[Edited on December 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM. Reason : .]

12/9/2011 1:15:48 PM

^^ you mean make it a short wheel based tube chassis race car... that's not even remotely based on an M1 other then some headlights and general shape.

12/9/2011 1:25:57 PM

12/9/2011 1:30:10 PM

lol, i'm not dis-agreeing with you... but i'm betting 1in10^(///m) will be in here to bitch at you.

12/9/2011 1:46:41 PM

Quote :

"my blower motor on my RX-7 doesnt work. I just ordered another off ebay. Hopefully that is the fix."

good chance it's the control unit above the radio (the "logicon"). My heat decided to work again today.

12/9/2011 4:08:16 PM