Undergrad resumes are so cute

10/13/2011 3:28:47 PM

colored paper with glitter?

10/13/2011 3:34:16 PM

I only go to Florida to hunt recruits

10/13/2011 3:38:33 PM

I'm hoping for collages!

10/13/2011 3:39:09 PM

haha some of them might as well have been. I had one guy hand me a resume that all it talked about were random ass classes (kayaking, Central American public policy, etc) he was taking this semester and that he was in the university's juggling team. I didn't even know there was a juggling team. I guess if he's applying for a job as a street performer in Costa Rica he's set!

10/13/2011 3:39:12 PM

He is working on his 99 percent degree.

10/13/2011 3:40:47 PM

I kind of feel like pulling kids like him aside and saying, "Dude, come on. At least try and get an internship before you get out of here. This is just embarrassing," but I doubt my organization would appreciate that

10/13/2011 3:42:15 PM

10/13/2011 3:43:28 PM

It's always been kind of to me how many people graduate with no relevant experience.

10/13/2011 4:05:49 PM

Buy them a bus ticket and point them to Wall Street.

10/13/2011 4:11:54 PM

Ah, did you get any people who are graduating in a major that your company has nothing to do with? I'm never really sure how to tell those people that their degrees aren't pertinent to the open positions without making them look stupid.

10/13/2011 4:24:30 PM

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"It's always been kind of to me how many people graduate with no relevant experience."

Catch 22 of the century.
You bust ass to get through college and nobody wants to hire you because you have no experience.
Or, you take your sweet ass time and do some internships; graduating later, but presumably in a better position to negotiate for a job.

I know there are exceptions, but when I was in school I usually went back home during the summers so I didn't have to pay rent/bills in Raleigh. Getting relevant experience in a town like Rocky Mount isn't the easiest thing in the world. I was good at landscaping though.

[Edited on October 13, 2011 at 4:48 PM. Reason : s]

10/13/2011 4:47:39 PM

co-ops and internships pay crazy good though

10/13/2011 4:49:00 PM

I've been to two NCSU career fairs as a recruiter, and it really makes for a lonnngg day. Mostly because people will just walk up and hand you a resume and not say a word. Absolutely no confidence or conversational skills. It's hard to be nice all day long to people when they do that.

It makes decisions easy when people walk right up and know how to talk.

10/13/2011 4:50:18 PM

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"Catch 22 of the century. You bust ass to get through college and nobody wants to hire you because you have no experience. Or, you take your sweet ass time and do some internships; graduating later, but presumably in a better position to negotiate for a job."

I'm not sure how that's a catch 22. I think there's way too much importance put on finishing a degree in 4 years.

Obviously, this all depends on your major and intended career. If experience +degree is important, then get that internship/co-op, even if you take 5-6 years to finish undergrad, and hopefully make some nice cash while you're doing it.

If you're trying to be a physician or other professional school career, there's little to no point in delaying undergrad.

10/13/2011 4:52:11 PM

The thread is going to far off track (or is it?) but here's my cool story bro:

Girl from my home town completely busted her ass to graduate with a Business degree in 3 years. Overloaded on hours, maxed out summer sessions, etc to make her college life a living hell.

She moved back home, dated a bunch of young marines mixed with some high school kids, and is now a stay at home wife of a guy on disability. I think she just started working at her dad's business or something though.

10/13/2011 5:14:00 PM

i think college should be 2 years in the classroom, 2 years in the field. unpaid or paid depending on company budget, and you pay normal tuition as the school would help place you in internships/co-ops that can help you succeed in the future.

can't do a lot with most CHASS degrees without any experience in anything.

10/13/2011 5:16:18 PM

3 hours is nothing. I spent the whole day recruiting at the Engr Career Fair last week. The line of casually-dressed Indian masters students wearing sandals waiting to hand me their 3-4 page long resumes was unending.

10/13/2011 5:41:57 PM

^exactly this.

10/13/2011 6:30:51 PM

Pfffft, resumes.

I'm working on dat curriculum vitae, son

(and I'll probably mess it up the first few drafts )

10/13/2011 6:31:27 PM

Am I invited to the wedding?

I will behave, promise

10/13/2011 6:32:36 PM

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"Mostly because people will just walk up and hand you a resume and not say a word. "

hah only one person tried to pull that on me. I was actually impressed with how articulate most of these students were, but I think it helps that it was a government and NPO career fair and not an engineering career fair

10/13/2011 9:28:42 PM

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"It's always been kind of to me how many people graduate with no relevant experience."

aaaaahahaha that was so me. I mean I TA'd one semester but that isn't really jack shit

also i get to be a recruiter at a career fair on the 27th. EXCITE

10/13/2011 9:32:22 PM

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"co-ops and internships pay crazy good though"

And they're just as competitive as trying to get a normal job when you graduate. Unfortunately there aren't as many co-ops and internships as there are people who want them.

10/13/2011 9:34:18 PM

yeah the engineering career fair is fun. A bunch of supernerds walking around in khakis, collared shirts, and tennis shoes trying to act like they have social skills so they can get a job with a bunch of other socially inept engineers.

lolz worthy.

10/13/2011 10:19:32 PM

I handled myself quite well at the engineering CF thankyouverymuch

Then again I talk for a living so interviews/first impressions are cake. I ended up basically palling around with most of the recruiters, even subtly flirted with one. Except the Nextera Energy lady...she was so obligingly cordial I felt I had accidentally walked into the dmv at 5pm

10/13/2011 11:16:50 PM

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"It's always been kind of to me how many people graduate with no relevant experience."

Why? Universities are NOT intended to provide people with job skills training. That is what trade schools and community college ARE specifically for.

This is the bullshit of the modern college system, people don't get the difference between job skills and life skills.

10/14/2011 1:41:47 AM

Random question for the wolfpackgrrr and the other recruiters. If you see a resume of someone who is 28 with military experience who just graduated with the same degree as a newly graduated 22 year old, who do you prefer?

10/14/2011 2:18:21 AM

Is the 22yo undergrad a female with a huge rack?

Cuz they're picking her over you.

EDIT: Was this was an engineering fair? I guess that would be wildly out of the question.


[Edited on October 14, 2011 at 2:21 AM. Reason : f]

10/14/2011 2:20:09 AM

In that case, it's perfectly understandable

10/14/2011 2:20:52 AM

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"Random question for the wolfpackgrrr and the other recruiters. If you see a resume of someone who is 28 with military experience who just graduated with the same degree as a newly graduated 22 year old, who do you prefer? "

Honestly it depends entirely on what's on their resume. If you both have a degree in, for example, political science, then all I really give a shit about is what else you've done. If the 22-year old recent graduate has more relevant skills listed on her resume than you, she's going to get the job.

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"Universities are NOT intended to provide people with job skills training."

True, but it's how many students go through undergrad without even attempting to get an internship, or co-op, or research work study, or anything else that would help them gain real world experience before graduating.

[Edited on October 14, 2011 at 8:39 AM. Reason : a]

10/14/2011 8:37:25 AM

^Why is it a female?

dat gender bias

I'm Krallum and i approved this message.

10/14/2011 8:39:34 AM

All hot chicks get interviews

10/14/2011 8:41:40 AM

^^ Because Netstorm established she was a chick

10/14/2011 8:43:44 AM

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"Catch 22 of the century. You bust ass to get through college and nobody wants to hire you because you have no experience. Or, you take your sweet ass time and do some internships; graduating later, but presumably in a better position to negotiate for a job."

yeah, how is this a catch-22? The second option is clearly better. If you take 5 years because you got work experience, that's a good thing.

10/14/2011 8:44:18 AM

I'm guessing the Catch 22 is you spend more time in school and therefore are likely to accrue more debt than if you graduated on time.

And then there's the whole thing with universities being pressured to get students in and out in four years and discouraging students from taking longer than that.

10/14/2011 8:46:04 AM

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""Random question for the wolfpackgrrr and the other recruiters. If you see a resume of someone who is 28 with military experience who just graduated with the same degree as a newly graduated 22 year old, who do you prefer?"

I'm doing a bit of hiring myself at the moment for the company I work for.

If both people had the same degree that was at least somewhat relevant to what I was hiring for and I could only interview one, I can say with confidence I would interview the person with the military experience. I tend to give veteran applications some preference. I wish more companies would.

A lot of military have background and experiences that might not "translate" into civilian terms easily, but the skills and maturity that comes with being in the military is grossly unappreciated in my opinion.

[Edited on October 14, 2011 at 9:02 AM. Reason : .]

10/14/2011 9:00:38 AM

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"yeah, how is this a catch-22"

although the statement was inarticulately explained, there is a catch-22 in searching for a career

you can't get a job without experience
you can't get experience without a job

10/14/2011 9:17:59 AM

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"3 hours is nothing. I spent the whole day recruiting at the Engr Career Fair last week. The line of casually-dressed Indian masters students wearing sandals waiting to hand me their 3-4 page long resumes was unending."

haha sounds about like my experience standing at my company's desk a few years ago.

10/14/2011 9:18:50 AM

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"Mostly because people will just walk up and hand you a resume and not say a word."

Let me ask a question. IF the person seems qualified, articulate, whatever, do you have a recruiter have any real say over whether this person will get an interview? Aren't these resumes just going into the HR black hole anyway?

10/14/2011 9:28:23 AM

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" IF the person seems qualified, articulate, whatever, do you have a recruiter have any real say over whether this person will get an interview?"

We do to an extent. Rather than just shoveling the resume to HR (or the trash) I can hand it to a hiring manager and say, "You should look into this guy. I met him at __________ and he was _____________." Then it's up to the hiring manager to make the next move.

10/14/2011 9:29:38 AM

If someone stands out, we definitely have a say in who gets hired. It's important to make sure the right people are hired for the job, not just someone who looks good on paper.

For the most part though, the interviews and hiring are done by managers, and HR is there to do the paperwork to make everything official.

10/14/2011 9:31:07 AM

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"A lot of military have background and experiences that might not "translate" into civilian terms easily, but the skills and maturity that comes with being in the military is grossly unappreciated in my opinion. "

For the few vets I have met through work, I would agree. They have a high degree of professionalism and work ethic.

10/14/2011 9:31:40 AM

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"Random question for the wolfpackgrrr and the other recruiters. If you see a resume of someone who is 28 with military experience who just graduated with the same degree as a newly graduated 22 year old, who do you prefer?"

I actually got my interview because I'm military (former active duty, now reserves), I got the job b/c I knew what the fuck I was talking about.

10/14/2011 9:33:14 AM

prior military who get engineering degrees doesnt usually bode well. I find that they often have a hard time thinking creatively or being flexible, and get frustrated easily in a corporate environment where there is a basic expectation of individual effort and collaboration outside a strict hierarchy.

prior military who hire on as technicians just based on their military experience, is a different story, and are often great employees.

FTR i'm prior military who got an engineering degree, but I'm special.

10/14/2011 3:10:29 PM

Do not wear a hat to the career fair, to visiting potential employer, or to interview.

10/14/2011 4:14:45 PM

Ugh I have this student that keeps emailing me about setting up a time to talk about our job opportunities. I have no idea how he got my email address in the first place. I guess one of the career fair organizers gave it to him. Thing is, this kid keeps changing his mind about when he wants to stop by my office or waits until the last possible second to email me to see if I'm free. I work on the same freaking campus he's a student of, how hard is it to walk by at a designated time?

Pro tip: If you piss off a recruiter before you even meet them, chances of getting a job are low.

10/17/2011 12:45:28 PM

E-mail him the pro tip. I was skipping class and everything to get a job.


It worked.

10/17/2011 12:53:51 PM

I gave him a time that worked for me this week and told him if he can't manage that then he's SOL. I'm done playing email tag with this kid.

[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 1:06 PM. Reason : at]

10/17/2011 1:05:55 PM

I think what sucks the most is that most majors will tell you straight up during orientation that they STRONGLY RECOMMEND you NOT working a job while enrolled to dedicate all your efforts to your studies. Then when you finish, employers want to see relevant experience before hiring.

10/17/2011 1:28:42 PM