and 12 people walk/ride by without stopping



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2DbzHz_m-I&feature=player_embedded

10/18/2011 1:50:35 AM

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"HD PORN ACROSS SIX DISPLAYS..."

10/18/2011 1:52:43 AM

old

10/18/2011 1:56:09 AM

Article First Posted: 10/17/11 06:09 PM ET Updated: 10/17/11 11:10 PM ET

Video posted by wric01 on Oct 15, 2011

10/18/2011 1:59:37 AM

spoiler alert

she dies.

10/18/2011 2:00:02 AM

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"According to The Telegraph, Yeuyue suffered injuries to her head and has to use a ventilator to breathe. She is reportedly in critical condition in intensive care at a hospital in Guangzhou. According to AFP, the toddler is in a coma and doctors do not expect her to survive. "

Movie didn't even finish yet, grandmaster

10/18/2011 2:02:47 AM

we dont deserve the world we were given. what the fuck is wrong with us

[Edited on October 18, 2011 at 2:04 AM. Reason : ,]

10/18/2011 2:03:59 AM

we don't have the balls to stand up for what's right until we're backed into the corner with nothing left to lose.

10/18/2011 2:07:06 AM

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"Article First Posted: 10/17/11 06:09 PM ET Updated: 10/17/11 11:10 PM ET Video posted by wric01 on Oct 15, 2011"

sooo you're just proving my point for me?

thx

10/18/2011 2:12:04 AM

comes to mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK8t8X6Me_U

[Edited on October 18, 2011 at 2:14 AM. Reason : b]

10/18/2011 2:13:24 AM

Oh god that was awful.

10/18/2011 2:18:48 AM

I hear watching 6 HD porn videos across 6 displays is the advantage one gets on a desktop compared to a laptop. Or so...

10/18/2011 2:29:51 AM

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"Under Communism this is the type of society it is today, Communism / Mao tse tung caused the greatest famine in human history yet with the barrel of a gun he rewrote history, then have his people worship him like a god with most families idolizing a Satan."

lol, what the hell does that have to do with anything?

10/18/2011 2:43:25 AM

^Well supposedly that's true--something about the bystander effect is way worse in China because unsolicited good acts offer virtually no societal reward (in the U.S. you'd be on the news for saving the toddler, or people would be emotionally ingratiated, et cetera) and something about having to go farther out of your way or something.

It seems silly to say this is representative of the whole world, but at the same time I don't think it's "satanic idolization" under Mao.

10/18/2011 3:06:58 AM

I read something about this being caused by the "Nanjing Judge" effect on Something Awful.

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"The case involved a man named Peng Yu who got off a crowded bus, and helped an old lady trying to get on, who had been knocked down by someone else getting off. He took her to hospital an even gave her a little money, and she then told police that he'd knocked her down. She either did this through error or because she was poor and it was the only way to secure compensation. The judge believed her, with this astounding logic: "The present case took place in a relatively well-trafficked bus station, a public place, during mid-morning when visibility was relatively good. The incident was very brief, so the person who knocked the plaintiff to the ground could not easily have fled. According to the defendant's own admission, he was the first person off the bus. Using common sense, there is a very high possibility that he collided with the plaintiff. If the defendant was acting heroically in performing a good deed, then a more realistic action would have been to catch the person who collided with the plaintiff, rather than merely having good intentions and helping her up. If the defendant was performing a good deed, then according to sociological reasoning, when the plaintiff's family arrived, he could have stated the facts clearly, had the plaintiff's family take her to the hospital, and then departed the scene. But the defendant did not make this choice; his actions are conspicuously at odds with reason.""

Tl;dr: It stands to reason that only the perpetrator of a crime would stop to help the victim, so if you stop to help you might end up sued/in jail.

[Edited on October 18, 2011 at 3:13 AM. Reason : ]

10/18/2011 3:13:13 AM

Ah, yes. The 'Bad Samaritan' law.

They ended the Chinese version of Seinfeld with an episode about this. Not very gratifying.

10/18/2011 3:28:25 AM

That effect happens in the United States, too.

For instance:
Everyone hears about the story of the robber that breaks into a house and gets hurt. Upon entering, he breaks a leg and sues the owner of the house. The robber wins a settlement.

And:
The macdonalds coffee in the lap case and judgment.
After that case, people now sue for anything and win a lot money when they shouldn't.



[Edited on October 18, 2011 at 3:33 AM. Reason : .]

10/18/2011 3:32:03 AM

Wow that's so terrible and sad. Just watching her get run over and picturing her torso and limbs shattering was incredibly heart-breaking

1) Why was a 2 year old roaming the streets freely?
2) Was the first person who ran her over blind? He even stopped after the first tire went over because he realized he went over something, but after a few seconds decided to go again rather than stepping out to see what he had run over. Hope the asshole gets what's coming to him
3) Was the second driver blind too? WTF where are these people looking when driving on narrow shopping streets known to be crowded with the public all the time?
4) And all the people not just passing by her, but also changing their path by curving around her legs and then resuming their original path... hope they rot in hell. There is no way it would seem like the child was sleeping there. She must have been in agony, probably screaming, and there seemed to be blood around her body. Poor little crushed baby . Definitely brought tears to my eyes.
5) Glad she was rescued before that big ass blue truck came by, cuz that would have killed her.

Comment from youtube:

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"he Most Disturbing Part Of This Video For Me Was The Fact That The Parents Look Like They're Forcing Themselves To Cry...That Coupled With The Fact That She Was A Girl Smells Fishy. I Could Be Wrong But In This Day? & Age It isn't Too Far Fetched. Either Way, I Hope This Girl Pulls Through & Justice Is Served."

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"^Well supposedly that's true--something about the bystander effect is way worse in China because unsolicited good acts offer virtually no societal reward (in the U.S. you'd be on the news for saving the toddler, or people would be emotionally ingratiated, et cetera) and something about having to go farther out of your way or something."

If you do good deeds (such as helping a 2 year old who has been run over twice) to get "societal reward", then your heart is not in the right place to begin with. Now if you are going to say that doing good deeds can actually get you punished, then you would have a point.

As for the case (new to me) mentioned by ActionPants, I am sure there have been similar cases in the US as well, so don't damn a whole country because of one crazy judge. Crazy judges are in every country. If people are claiming that this toddler case happened because of the bus case, I would need to see some kind of wide scale debate or discussion in Chinese society about this "getting punished for doing good deeds" thing, not just the fact that the bus case happened. To say that people didn't help a CRUSHED toddler in one part of a massive country because of some bus case they don't even know about that happened in some other part of the same country, is ridiculous (unless the debate/discussion I mentioned exists). Because to me it looks like Chinese people are uncaring robotic fucks, not people who heard about some bus case and because of that decided not to help a bleeding crushed baby.

BUS CASE:

1) If the defendant admitted he was the first person to get off the bus, how is it that the old woman was knocked down by someone else getting off the same bus?
2) Why is everybody believing the man that he didn't knock her down? Is there any video proof?
3) The judge is obviously crazy for saying "If the defendant was acting heroically in performing a good deed, then a more realistic action would have been to catch the person who collided with the plaintiff, rather than merely having good intentions and helping her up." That's just stupid... yeah let's catch the idiot, which would accomplish nothing, rather than help an old lady off the ground
4) Can you really be punished for knocking someone down by mistake? I guess if you seriously injure the person... so was the woman seriously injured? If so, how was he punished? Was he made to pay her or jailed? If not, it is messed up to get punished for it (if he got punished).

10/18/2011 4:27:51 AM

10/18/2011 4:30:57 AM

Another youtube comment, from this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZpA6xyvvSM

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"WOW,..WHY DIDN'T THOSE MORONS DO ANYTHING?!!! Anyway I don't mean to seem insensitive to that Poor Child, but I'm wondering in the Chinese Culture would it have made a Difference if it was a "BOY" that was hit instead of a Girl?! I hear China favour Boys over Girls when? they have Children. Either Way Half of the Chinese people are Sick.for what it's worth. BYE!"

And a news article:

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"BEIJING : More than a dozen passers-by ignored a two-year-old girl as she lay critically injured on a street in southern China after being run over twice, the official Xinhua news agency said Monday. The incident has sparked outrage on China's hugely popular social media sites. Surveillance cameras showed a series of people walk past the girl, named Yue Yue, after she was hit first by a van and then a truck outside her family's shop in the southern Chinese city of Foshan. Xinhua said a rubbish collector who finally came to the girl's aid, moving her to the curb and shouting for help, was ignored by several shopkeepers before he finally tracked down her mother who took her to hospital. In response, one netizen on Sina Weibo, a Chinese micro-blog similar to Twitter, wrote: "This society is seriously ill. Even cats and dogs shouldn't be treated so heartlessly." But others linked the incident to an earlier case in which a man who tried to help an elderly woman after she fell over was prosecuted, apparently because his intervention broke government rules on dealing with accident victims. Doctors said Yue Yue was in a coma and unlikely to survive the ordeal. "She would not be able to survive any operations. She's very close to brain death," a spokesman for the hospital treating her told AFP. Police have detained the drivers of both vehicles involved in the incident, Xinhua said."

Seems like a case of a fucked up society (see bolded part).

Animals are better than half of humans.

ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS EVER:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfkS6bMryHM (dog drags to safety another dog run over by truck on a busy damn highway)


[Edited on October 18, 2011 at 4:43 AM. Reason : ]

10/18/2011 4:32:33 AM

Another video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwhVUL-H46M

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"Synopsis: October 13th afternoon around 5:30, a car accident occurred at the Guangfo Hardware Market in Huangqi of Foshan. A van hit a 2-year-old little girl and then fled. No passersby reached out to help and then another car ran over her. Over the span of 7 minutes, a total of 17 people passing by failed to extend a hand or call the police, up until the 19th person, a garbage scavenger ayi [older woman], who lifted her up after discovering her but the little girl in her arms was like a noodle, immediately collapsing back onto the ground. The trash scavenger ayi called for help, and the little girl's mother, who was in the vicinity, immediately rushed over and rushed her to the hospital.The news report video above has been viewed nearly 700k times on popular Chinese video-sharing website Youku since it was uploaded 17 hours ago and currently has over 6200 comments spanning 210 pages. This story is also spreading on China's popular microblogging service Sina Weibo in addition to receiving a lot of views and comments on China's major internet news portals and communities. In addition to showing the little girl, Yue Yuem being run over twice and many of the bystanders who didn't stop to help her, it also shows that Yue Yue is currently in the hospital in critical condition. Police have already found the second driver but have yet to find the first driver as they were unable to read the first van's license plate and are calling upon witnesses for help. Yue Yue's parents are also shown."

P.S. EVEN IF everybody ignored her because of the bus case, here is a good point:

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"They say its because they dont want to be blamed for? it, but how can someone walking be blamed for driving over her?"

And:

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"I wish those making EXCUSES for their behavior because of the Law and such would shut up, you cannot conveniently hide a majorities lack of humanity behind such. There are no excuses for such? behavior if you are a civilized human being with a Soul."

The other thing is, you can't compare an old lady who has fallen down with no visible injuries to a baby that has been crushed nearly to death and is lying in a pool of her blood. Imagine walking by and thinking to yourself "I would like to help this crushed baby lying in her blood, but that guy who helped the old lady was punished by the law, so I will pass". DOES NOT COMPUTE. As I said, perhaps in general the Chinese really are uncaring fucks. 18 in a row? Yeah, that's the only conclusion.

And this one is rolly eyes worthy:

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"Before this incident happened, there are so many unreasonable things happened before. So people are feared to help others more and more. This is a failure of the education in China, and all these incidents reflect the sinful human nature. Friends, let us do not be critical on other persons, let's humble before God and pray? that these kind of things may not happen again, when more and more Chinese come to? know Jesus as there Lord and Savior. May God? bless you and your family! ChinaNeedsJesus 29 minutes ago"

[Edited on October 18, 2011 at 6:42 AM. Reason : ]

10/18/2011 6:37:42 AM

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"The other thing is, you can't compare an old lady who has fallen down with no visible injuries to a baby that has been crushed nearly to death and is lying in a pool of her blood. Imagine walking by and thinking to yourself "I would like to help this crushed baby lying in her blood, but that guy who helped the old lady was punished by the law, so I will pass". DOES NOT COMPUTE. As I said, perhaps in general the Chinese really are uncaring fucks. 18 in a row? Yeah, that's the only conclusion."

I don't think it's that every person runs the "bus situation" through their head when an opportunity to help happens. I think it's more along the lines that it's created a culture where people just don't help. Who knows what they are thinking, but at some point the culture has moved away from helping people in these situations.


There's also the well known "Diffusion of Responsibility", that's always brought up in these situations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility

[Edited on October 18, 2011 at 6:56 AM. Reason : .]

10/18/2011 6:51:51 AM

so in other words, you agree with this:

DOES NOT COMPUTE [thinking about possible consequences as in the bus case]. As I said, perhaps in general the Chinese really are uncaring robotic fucks. 18 in a row? Yeah, that's the only conclusion.

10/18/2011 6:56:32 AM

I'm not agreeing with anything. I'm just offering possible explanations. You don't know what's going through these people's heads. But maybe after years and years of worrying about whether or not to help in tragic situations...it's been ingrained into their heads not to help.

I don't know...just offering a possibility.

[Edited on October 18, 2011 at 6:59 AM. Reason : .]

10/18/2011 6:58:45 AM

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"They ended the Chinese version of Seinfeld with an episode about this. Not very gratifying."

Hahaha

10/18/2011 8:32:01 AM

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"But maybe after years and years of worrying about whether or not to help in tragic situations...it's been ingrained into their heads not to help."

Yeah probably, but that's just a nicer way of saying they are uncaring robotic fucks.

I can maybe understand being an uncaring robotic fuck if you have been de/reprogrammed because of having undergone some deep psychological trauma, such as being jailed in a violent jail, having been tortured, kidnapped and held captive for a long time, sexually molested, grown up in a war zone, etc. But for normal people? Never. Those 18 passersby are all cruel fucks and they just bought a one-way ticket to hell, if it exists.

But then again, I don't know, maybe growing up in China is deeply psychologically traumatizing.

10/18/2011 9:08:00 AM

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"But then again, I don't know, maybe growing up in China is deeply psychologically traumatizing."

It is a crazy-ass country.

And "Diffusion of Responsibility" goes on everywhere.

10/18/2011 9:12:50 AM

I am really wishing I had not watched that video.

10/18/2011 9:13:50 AM

Me too.

10/18/2011 9:19:40 AM

Giving fancy names to phenomenon doesn't explain or forgive them. I could understand "Diffusion of Responsibility" if the child had fallen down while playing and was conscious, crying, and visibly uninjured. But not when the child is lying in a pool of blood, nearly unconscious, and visibly crushed nearly to death. As I said, fuck all those who passed by and even changed their paths around the baby's legs.

"Diffusion of Responsibility" is basically "It is OK if I don't get to the scene because someone else will and it is not a critical situation". A nearly dead baby lying in her blood with crushed legs is definitely a critical situation which requires immediate help, and I would expect every human who sees such a scene to help IF the child clearly isn't being helped by anyone else. Anything else is supreme callousness.

10/18/2011 9:29:45 AM

I'm not watching this.

I don't think I could handle it.

10/18/2011 9:33:46 AM

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""Diffusion of Responsibility" is basically "It is OK if I don't get to the scene because someone else will and it is not a critical situation"."

That's incorrect. That theory is often used when there is a critical situation.

10/18/2011 9:38:21 AM

soulless

10/18/2011 9:39:01 AM

This is soooo sad. And then the woman (and 2nd woman or mother) who finally "helped" grabbed her up like a ragdoll. Ummm....helloooooo....you can't just snatch someone up who's entire body is crushed and probably has internal bleeding.

10/18/2011 10:23:48 AM

^ the entire video was like a house of horrors. It was clear that the lady who "helped" was moving the kid out of the street so he wouldn't be hit again. Normally you wouldn't think that another car would just drive up and run over the kid again because he was in their way, but that exact thing happened earlier in the video.

10/18/2011 10:32:31 AM

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"Ummm....helloooooo....you can't just snatch someone up who's entire body is crushed and probably has internal bleeding."

1. The State run media probably hasn't aired as many Rescue 911 episodes as they have over here so basic levels of emergency care are more likely foreign to them.

2. Maybe they didn't see how bad it was and only saw a bleeding child on the road. Instincts and such.

10/18/2011 11:00:55 AM

Theres a lot of people talking out of there ass about the Chinese culture.

I will find a horrible accident that took place in the US in which nobody intervened and helped a person in need and then use that lone accident to make a generalization about how bad American culture is.

10/18/2011 11:03:28 AM

chinese people aren't the same as oversympathetic americans. get over it.

10/18/2011 11:07:55 AM

these are also the world's worst drivers.

UPDATE:
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2011-10/18/content_13924846.htm

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"The condition of the two-year-old girl, Yue Yue, who was severely injured in a hit-and-run accident, is showing signs of stability, Guangdong Daily reported Tuesday. A video of the incident, captured by a surveillance camera, shows the girl being hit by a white van before being hit by another van a few minutes later on a narrow market street in the city of Foshan in Guangdong province on the afternoon of October 13. Toddler: showing signs of stability After two and a half days of treatment, good news came Monday morning that Yue Yue has regained the ability to take weak breaths with the help of respirator. The rest of her condition, including blood pressure and heart beat, shows signs of stability. However, the child's life is still in danger and she hasn't recovered the ability to breathe upsupported, reported Guangzhou Daily. Rescuer gets big rewards Civilization office of Foshan's Nanhai district on Monday presented 10,000 yuan ($1,570) to Chen Xianmei, a rubbish collector who offered aid to Yue Yue after the incident happened, as a reward for her kind deed, China Daily reported. Meanwhile, a company in Foshan said that they will donate 50,000 yuan to Yue Yue’s family and the rescuer respectively. “Besides the reward, we would like to offer Chen a job with stable income so as to encourage this kind of activity,” said an anonymous assistant manager at the company. Hit-and-run drivers: sorry for the victim's family As for the two drivers who hit Yue Yue, one was caught by police and the other turned himself in on Monday. Both drivers said they didn't see the child before the accident happened, according to the police. The first driver who knocked down Yue Yue expressed regret, deep sadness and apologies to the child’s family. Apathetic passers-by interviewed Minutes after the accident happened, a man driving an electric tricycle passed by the injured girl. He looked back for a while before leaving the scene. The man, surnamed Zhang, later told Guangzhou Daily that he didn't see the child lying on street or any blood stains. "I couldn't see clearly because it was dark then." About a minute after the man passed by, another young woman holding hand of a little girl passed by Yue Yue. "The girl was bleeding in mouth and ear and crying a little. I was so scared and my girl cried because of fear, therefore, we left," said the woman surnamed Lin. Another man wearing green cloths looked at Yue Yue from 3 meters away. He was a nearby shop owner. He denied having seen the little girl. "If I saw her, I would definitely have offered help," he said. However netizens and neighbors do not believe his story. Neighbors talked about him and a netizen even googled his shop online out and criticized him of "lack of conscience". The shop owner said it has made him disturbed."

[Edited on October 18, 2011 at 11:11 AM. Reason : HOW MUCH DO YOU TRUST THE MAINSTREAM CHINK MEDIA?]

10/18/2011 11:08:22 AM

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"The shop owner said it has made him disturbed."

Disturbed because now people view him as an apathetic asshole.

10/18/2011 11:15:26 AM

that was pretty messed up

10/18/2011 11:16:56 AM

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"For instance: Everyone hears about the story of the robber that breaks into a house and gets hurt. Upon entering, he breaks a leg and sues the owner of the house. The robber wins a settlement.."

Yeah everyone hears about it but nobody can say exactly when and where the case was or what the details are. When asked they just say "someone told be about it" and I laugh in their face.

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"And: The macdonalds coffee in the lap case and judgment. After that case, people now sue for anything and win a lot money when they shouldn't"

If you knew the details of that case you would know McDonalds deserved to be smacked down for that.

10/18/2011 11:30:32 AM

A society without conscience..

10/18/2011 11:30:59 AM

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"^ the entire video was like a house of horrors. It was clear that the lady who "helped" was moving the kid out of the street so he wouldn't be hit again. Normally you wouldn't think that another car would just drive up and run over the kid again because he was in their way, but that exact thing happened earlier in the video."

Yeah, you're right. It's so sad when they snatched her up after being ran over 4 times (I'm counting # of times tires ran over her) her body just was hanging there lifeless as her head flopped around and appeared her backbone was completely shattered. Ugh...this is terrible!

10/18/2011 11:33:23 AM

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"Yeah everyone hears about it but nobody can say exactly when and where the case was or what the details are. When asked they just say "someone told be about it" and I laugh in their face."

Pretty sure most people are just mucking up the details of Bodine v. Enterprise High School .

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"Except if one actually goes to the document, buried within a lot of rhetoric criticizing reformers for mentioning the Bodine lawsuit, we learn: Ricky Bodine was a 19-year-old high-school graduate who, with three other friends (one of whom had a criminal record), decided the night of March 1, 1982, to steal a floodlight from the roof of the Enterprise High School gymnasium. Ricky climbed the roof, removed the floodlight, lowered it to the ground to his friends, and, as he was walking across the roof (perhaps to steal a second floodlight), he fell through the skylight. Bodine suffered terrible injuries to be sure, though one questions the relevance: if the school is legally responsible for burglars’ safety, it doesn’t matter whether Bodine stubbed a toe or, as actually happened, became a spastic quadriplegic. But I fail to see what it is that reformers are supposedly misrepresenting. A burglar fell through a skylight, and sued the owner of the skylight for his injuries. Bodine sued for $8 million (in 1984 dollars, about $16 million today) and settled for the nuisance sum of $260,000 plus $1200/month for life, about the equivalent of a million dollars in conservatively-estimated 2006 present value. In other words, a burglar fell through a skylight, and blamed the skylight’s owners for his injuries; because the law permits such suits, and because the law does not compensate defendants for successful defenses, Bodine had the ability to extort hundreds of thousands of dollars from taxpayers for injuries suffered in the course of his own criminal behavior."

10/19/2011 9:56:59 AM

^ I'd like to know more details on that case.

10/19/2011 10:00:13 AM

LOL@ saying McDonald's deserved to lose the hot coffee lawsuit. Bunch of bullshit.

10/19/2011 10:05:26 AM

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"LOL@ saying McDonald's deserved to lose the hot coffee lawsuit. Bunch of bullshit."

But they did.

10/19/2011 10:06:33 AM

^^^ Here's a more detailed write up of the case: http://www.law.berkeley.edu/sugarman/Wendy_TortStoryFinal_ii.doc

10/19/2011 10:07:39 AM

Yes, because only McDonald's serves hot coffee and should be sued when people injure themselves!

[Edited on October 19, 2011 at 10:10 AM. Reason : e]

10/19/2011 10:09:11 AM