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"A man who tried to rob a mixed martial-arts expert at gunpoint found himself no match for his intended victim this weekend, police said. Anthony Miranda, 24, faces a charge of discharging a weapon during a robbery in the Southwest Side attack, which left him wounded in the ankle and badly bruised from his confrontation with the 33-year-old man he robbed, police said. The victim was sitting in his car near Kenneth Avenue and 55th Street about 11:30 p.m. Friday when a man came up to the car and asked him for a light, said Chicago Police News Affairs Officer John Mirabelli. The man in the car replied that he didn't have a light, and the other man pulled out a handgun and demanded the driver's valuables, Mirabelli said. The driver handed over his cash, wallet and valuables, and the gunman then ordered him out of the car. At some point, the older man was able to grab hold of the handgun, and during a struggle, the robber discharged a round, striking himself in the ankle, Mirabelli said. The victim was able to hold the robber until police arrived. When he turned the robber over to police, the victim told them that he participates in Ultimate Fighting Championships, a mixed-martial arts competition, Mirabelli said. After being treated at Holy Cross Hospital, Miranda appeared in Cook County Bond Court Sunday and was ordered held in lieu of $350,000 bail. Miranda, of the 8900 block of Bronx Avenue in Skokie, is on parole in several 2007 residential burglary cases for which he was sentenced to six years in prison. He was released from prison in March 2010. He previously served time for convictions in two 2005 burglary cases."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-robber-tussles-with-martialarts-expert-gets-beaten-and-shot-20111205,0,4752706.story

Do not rob
- A group of marines
- A UFC Fighter

12/6/2011 12:33:23 AM

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"Fox Chicago reports. He told officers he was a martial arts expert and ultimate fighting champion. Miranda was taken to Holy Cross Hospital with a "face full of lacerations," two black eyes and a gunshot wound. "

12/6/2011 12:34:44 AM

hey dude that robs people 3 times, let's keep letting you rob people.

12/6/2011 12:45:43 AM

Education is expensive, no matter how you get it.

12/6/2011 1:21:35 AM

"Let's lock up billy for smoking marijuana, aaand let's let the robber out of jail."

12/6/2011 1:39:05 AM

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"Miranda, of the 8900 block of Bronx Avenue in Skokie, is on parole in several 2007 residential burglary cases for which he was sentenced to six years in prison. He was released from prison in March 2010. He previously served time for convictions in two 2005 burglary cases.""

Someone like this should just be ejected from society. He should have been beaten into a bloody pulp, requiring a year of painful recovery and physical therapy. That would have taught him a lesson, because it doesn't seem as if the beating he got is going to stop him. Or he should have been 'accidentally' shot in the liver or the stomach. Or the head.

12/6/2011 2:42:12 AM

Or maybe he should have served his full sentence.

12/6/2011 2:49:01 AM

Yes, but doesn't seem like the government really cares about that.

And even if he served his full sentence, he is still seems to be the type to reoffend over and over again. He has already taken part in "several + 2" burglaries. Someone like that is defective. Prison can't fix him; it will probably make him worse. There need to be criminal mental rehabilitation centers for defective individuals like that.

12/6/2011 2:53:48 AM

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"And even if he served his full sentence, he is still seems to be the type to reoffend over and over again. He has already taken part in "several + 2" burglaries. Someone like that is defective. Prison can't fix him; it will probably make him worse. There need to be criminal mental rehabilitation centers for defective individuals like that."

Some people change, some people don't. Best thing we can do is give them their full sentence for crimes with victims. If he does it again, double the time. 12 years. If he does it again, triple the time. 24 years. We can't take his life away from him for just one murderless robbery and it's not enough to determine whether he is a repeat offender until after the first release and second offense.

I just know that if 3 years was all I got for armed robbery when I was told my sentence was 6 years, I'd more than likely do the crime again.


We can still let people out early for victimless crimes on good behavior. But crimes with victims should have to serve their full sentence.

12/6/2011 3:08:36 AM

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"I just know that if 3 years was all I got for armed robbery when I was told my sentence was 6 years, I'd more than likely do the crime again."

Oh great mind of the TWW, me thinks you underestimate three years in prison for failed robbery.

12/6/2011 3:44:14 AM

^apparently not, the fucktard is out robbing people again

12/6/2011 7:06:50 AM

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"f he does it again, double the time. 12 years. If he does it again, triple the time. 24 years."

Ommm...yeah...

12/6/2011 7:29:22 AM

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"He should have been beaten into a bloody pulp, requiring a year of painful recovery and physical therapy. That would have taught him a lesson, because it doesn't seem as if the beating he got is going to stop him."

The only thing this guy will learn is to just shoot and kill whoever he robs the next time in order to avoid a situation like this.

12/6/2011 8:24:51 AM

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"Some people change, some people don't. Best thing we can do is give them their full sentence for crimes with victims. If he does it again, double the time. 12 years. If he does it again, triple the time. 24 years. We can't take his life away from him for just one murderless robbery and it's not enough to determine whether he is a repeat offender until after the first release and second offense. I just know that if 3 years was all I got for armed robbery when I was told my sentence was 6 years, I'd more than likely do the crime again. We can still let people out early for victimless crimes on good behavior. But crimes with victims should have to serve their full sentence."

It is rare that I agree with you, but I agree here. Still, with one caveat, though.

What if he serves his first full sentence of say 6 or so years, and comes out and offends again? It is the obvious in that case the punishment didn't work. Should we just sentence him again blindly, without trying to figure out how to actually fix him?

I guess it all depends on what you think the goal of punishment is. Is it to just simply punish the criminal for their crime? Is to to punish and deter them from offending them? Is to punish them and also help transform them into a decent productive human?

If it is the last one, simply putting him in jail the second time is not useful. As I said, psychologists need to study repeat offenders and help establish "repeat offender institutions" where people like the criminal in the OP can be sent to upon re-offending, to help fix him.

12/6/2011 8:32:17 AM

haha, what a douche

12/6/2011 8:42:32 AM

look, I'm sure the prison had to let this violent offender go on parole to make room for more drug offenders.

12/6/2011 11:29:26 AM

Sucks he only got shot in the ankle.

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"Or he should have been 'accidentally' shot in the liver or the stomach. Or the head."

12/6/2011 11:39:50 AM

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"He should have been beaten into a bloody pulp, requiring a year of painful recovery and physical therapy."

Nah. Too good for this scumbag. Just pop one round between the eyes and be done with it before he kills an innocent person. No more failed reform attempts, no more system bogging proceedings, just a bullet and an incinerator.

12/6/2011 11:55:20 AM

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"We can still let people out early for victimless crimes on good behavior. But crimes with victims should have to serve their full sentence."

agreed.

It is way too political how the early release shit works, you have to know someone and pull the right strings.

12/6/2011 12:25:53 PM

12/7/2011 9:32:16 PM

http://www.wzzm13.com/story/news/local/kalamazoo/2014/10/15/kalamazoo-arrested-attemtped-kidnapping/17297265/

10/15/2014 2:33:21 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/01/us/pennsylvania-eric-frein-arrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

11/2/2014 1:13:42 AM