12/18/2011 2:33:02 PM

i like how you say that like you were wavering about who to start, of course you start fucking rodgers.


my money says he still ends up w/ at least two td's

are you in some stupid fantasy league that only counts the 1rst half??

12/18/2011 2:34:09 PM

^ haha, probably... bet they also have playoffs too HAHAHA

12/18/2011 2:39:34 PM

^^ No, but it is the playoffs

12/18/2011 2:41:07 PM

playoffs in fantasy football are the dumbest thing ever!!1

12/18/2011 2:42:52 PM

you finally said something that made sense. Proud of you TT10

12/18/2011 2:43:42 PM

FANTASY FOOTBALL IS FOR FAGGOTS


I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO HAS A FANTASY FOOTBALL TEAM ACCIDENTALLY KILLS THEMSELVES

12/18/2011 2:44:29 PM

college football purist in the house

unless you count FCS, Division II, Division III, etc

the regular season is the playoff!

unless you're alabama, and get eliminated from the "playoff" but still make the title game

12/18/2011 2:44:41 PM

and now you are being stupid again... you are my Beavis

12/18/2011 2:45:43 PM

BCS College Football has got it right!

FCS, D2, D3, NCAABB, NBA, NFL, NHL, every other sport...THEY'RE doing it wrong

12/18/2011 2:46:38 PM

playoffs in football makes total sense... playoffs in fantasy football makes no sense.

12/18/2011 2:47:08 PM

I like playoffs in FF. Yours is the first league I've ever been in that didn't have them

12/18/2011 2:48:13 PM

^^why is that?

12/18/2011 2:48:17 PM

12/18/2011 2:49:43 PM

there is 1

12/18/2011 2:51:12 PM

say you have a really good team, you did a great job drafting, making trades, etc. Because of your effort you kick ass all year. But, your QB is Rodgers, your TE is Gronkowski, etc. They have nothing to play for that last week, so they sit half the game and you lose.

Some leagues do shit where the playoffs start early and the FF season ends in week 15 or 16 or 17, but then you are losing a fair amount of the season which is also stupid.

12/18/2011 2:52:59 PM

12/18/2011 2:53:00 PM

^ HA! I love the guy on the right staring at him and smiling

12/18/2011 2:54:59 PM

^^^so dont play

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 2:56 PM. Reason : a]

12/18/2011 2:55:15 PM

fantasy football playoffs for people who know what they are doing means

12/18/2011 2:55:33 PM

^^ I dont... only do leagues without playoffs... no random luck kids games for me son. This is REAL.

12/18/2011 2:58:03 PM

Quote :

"say you have a really good team, you did a great job drafting, making trades, etc. Because of your effort you kick ass all year. But, your QB is Rodgers, your TE is Gronkowski, etc. They have nothing to play for that last week, so they sit half the game and you lose."

if you're not thinking about every week of the season when you draft, you're not doing a great job drafting, thats user error, not a problem with playoffs

blaming "playoffs" for you losing a league is like blaming injuries, or a phantom holding call that brought back a would-be 50-yard TD by one of your players

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:00 PM. Reason : bush league]

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:00 PM. Reason : Fantasy Football 101: The Peyton Manning Lecture]

12/18/2011 2:58:04 PM

no, that's stupid. If you think the NFL is that simple then you are kidding yourself. Parity, injuries, etc.

I just like to win, or lose, based on "skill" (as much skill as there is watching football) and effort rather than the dumb luck that week 17 of the NFL season is... to each their own.

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:03 PM. Reason : d]

12/18/2011 3:00:53 PM

you can draft for injuries...ie, I avoided Peyton Hillis like the plague in drafts this year after his banged up last 4 games last year

you don't want your top 3 picks to all have the same bye week, why is it so hard to plan for other weeks?

we can agree to disagree, but theres always luck involved...i've been the #1 seed in leagues and lost in the first round from a bad game, deal with it

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:04 PM. Reason : .]

12/18/2011 3:03:32 PM

no, that is fine... I am talking about if you somehow got Aaron Rodgers, by far the best player this year, you will be penalized in week 17 if he doesnt play the entire game. Does that mean you dont draft him? no, of course not. Just picture in real football if the Patriots sat Tom Brady in the super bowl, thats how dumb it is.

12/18/2011 3:05:37 PM

and fuck parity, making waiver claims on guys like Demarco Murray or Victor Cruz are just as important as who you draft

12/18/2011 3:05:59 PM

I agree... and never said otherwise, in fact, I mentioned picking up players after the draft. Not sure what that has to do with anything I said...

12/18/2011 3:06:46 PM

^^^you could trade him away for a QB that will be good in the final weeks, like a tony romo, once you have secured your position in the playoffs


most people who need wins to make it to the playoffs would make that deal in a heartbeat

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:08 PM. Reason : slow response is slow]

12/18/2011 3:08:24 PM

did you think the Packers were going to suck this year? every single year when you draft you should realize certain guys that year (if healthy) like Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Brady (although Belicheat likes to run up the score) have that possibility...if you're in a league with playoffs, you plan on that

its cool though, some people like dumbed down leagues

12/18/2011 3:09:49 PM

^^ any league worth a shit has a trade deadline WAY before the playoffs are decided. And why would you do that? Give up a keeper for next year to win playoffs because you magically cant play your best player? Like I said, picture the Pats getting to the super bowl, and then benching Brady.

^ nice try. You stick to luck, I'll stick to skill. Playoffs are to placate the stupid so they feel better and can maybe squeak in and get lucky. Especially leagues where you have stupid shit like 12 teams and 6 get in the playoffs



[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:11 PM. Reason : d]

12/18/2011 3:09:52 PM

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[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:10 PM. Reason : ]

12/18/2011 3:09:57 PM

^^yours is also the first keeper league I've been in- keep in mind, many other leagues are out there that are run completely different


it is all a matter of opinion- I'm not saying your way is wrong, I just prefer mine (which is not wrong either)

12/18/2011 3:11:55 PM

Quote :

"picture the Pats getting to the super bowl, and then benching Brady"

picture the Pats getting awarded the Lombardi Trophy for Super Bowl XLII since they had the best regular season

12/18/2011 3:13:22 PM

well with all that you shouldnt do head to head either, just total points for the year. every year somebody ends the reg season top 3 b/c of lucky matchups, they have one of the lowest points totals for AND against.

12/18/2011 3:13:25 PM

^^ not at all the same because in real football the best players play in the playoffs, HUGE difference

^ we threw around the idea, but head to head is a lot of fun and we have found over 9 years that the bad matchups tend to balance out most of the time over the course of a season (which cant happen in the playoffs doesnt because you are eliminated instantly)



[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:16 PM. Reason : d]

12/18/2011 3:14:38 PM

^^good point

if you're going to be a no playoffs snob, you gotta go roto

talking about skill not luck, but playing H2H? pssh

Quote :

"head to head is a lot of fun"

so are playoffs

12/18/2011 3:15:24 PM

^ not to me, its not the best, its who is the luckiest that final week.

All I know is that every single playoff league that I have been in, the champion won with some bullshit related to it, great players sitting on the bench, or teams already in not giving a shit and their defense plays like shit week 17 etc.



[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:19 PM. Reason : d]

12/18/2011 3:18:20 PM

the one thing ff needs is more pouty little bitches

12/18/2011 3:19:57 PM

and that is something you have to plan for... the final week is the final week regardless of if you are in a playoff system or not, and you have those players regardless- if you've made it to the championship, then you are doing pretty well anyway

12/18/2011 3:20:30 PM

^^ exactly. Waaaa give me a chance to win on luck!!! waaaaa, its soooo mean to make me be a good team all year!!!

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:21 PM. Reason : d]

12/18/2011 3:20:50 PM

ff is always luck

one of my teams this year had 4 guys tear their acl

unless you are redrafting every week, you league is prob at leat 75% luck no matter what

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:22 PM. Reason : i'm not pouting about rules, you are]

12/18/2011 3:21:51 PM

i am playing this guy....and i am very pleased

12/18/2011 3:23:21 PM

^^ yes, but you cant control injuries. You can control one week artificially not having all healthy players available AND having that week be super important. Ha, if I am pouting, then the people wanting playoffs are equally pouting buddy.

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:24 PM. Reason : d]

12/18/2011 3:23:24 PM

i'm on my way to being 14-1, 13-2 at the worst after this week (final week of regular season) and coasting into the playoffs this year...in your type of league, i'm king shit, i fucking run everything, based on my stellar drafting, free agent moves, and flex choices like the proper weeks to play Laurent Robinson versus Shonn Greene, i've established the best regular season record so i should win

your only argument seems to be "well lets say you had Aaron Rodgers"

well i'd call you a dumbshit for drafting a QB in the first round

Quote :

"ff is always luck"

jaybee is too skilled for that nonsense

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:25 PM. Reason : .]

12/18/2011 3:24:01 PM

that doesnt even make sense... not even sure where to start. First off, Rodgers was kept, so not sure what you are even talking about there... and if you have that record someone else could too, but if not, then you deserve to win for clearly being better than everyone, I have no problem with that. It WOULD be bullshit though if you had to do a playoff and the champ. game was against some 7-8 team and you have say, Baltimores defense and he has Seattles. Your defense rests for half that final week and they give up 35 points to fucking Arizona. Seattle's mighty defense plays the 49ers who rest all their starters, you lose. Awesome!

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM. Reason : d]

12/18/2011 3:26:39 PM

bottomline is i've made the finals of fantasy football leagues with playoffs and lost to teams who i was 3 to 4 games better than in the regular season, NOT because anybody was benched, but because the Giants defense gets lucky and scores 3 defensive touchdowns, or jamaal charles rushes for 250 yards

luck is involved in every week's matchup jaybee, playoffs or not

12/18/2011 3:28:44 PM

Why do you play in the final week?

My league ends at week 16.

Is it really important enough and worth it to have one more week of fantasy football if it means good players aren't playing?

12/18/2011 3:30:00 PM

play Jaybee's fantasy league! now with 5% less luck!

12/18/2011 3:30:10 PM

I agree there is luck, and my point is if you have an opportunity to decrease the amount of luck involved, you should do it.

12/18/2011 3:30:37 PM

^^^plenty of good players play in the final week...each year there are a maximum of 4 teams who can possibly have 1st round byes locked up going into the final week, and usually its less than that...are there no good fantasy football players on the other 28 NFL teams?

and only 2 teams can have homefield advantage locked up throughout

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 3:33 PM. Reason : edit]

12/18/2011 3:31:38 PM