I do recall her grabbing an ax

6/13/2012 8:12:34 PM

I think that this bears linking again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-x1YuvUQFJ0

And in a nutshell, there are most of my problems with the writing of this movie.

6/13/2012 10:38:59 PM

^^ that reminds me, the design of that ax seems absolutely retarded. like you're almost guaranteed to hit the handle on whatever you're swinging at

6/14/2012 5:36:26 PM

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"that reminds me, the design of that ax seems absolutely retarded. like you're almost guaranteed to hit the handle on whatever you're swinging at"

Ax handle technology pretty much peaked way before 2093.

6/14/2012 5:45:43 PM

just saw the movie and didnt bother reading the whole thread, so if my question has been answered, sorry.

I thought the story was pretty good, but what was the purpose of having the terraform if the engineer was just going to walk out in the atmosphere at the very end? Maybe I missed something or am just being picky, but that seemed like a pretty big oversight to me.

6/14/2012 11:12:23 PM

So I gave this movie a second try just to be fair, and I still hated it. I think its a really shitty movie. Again, my biggest complaints are just the poorly written story and the characters that just act plain retarded in the given situation. The more you think about how poorly its written, the more stupid it gets. I can accept a few unanswered questions and motives, but the script and story plays out like it was written by a 12 year old (which it was), this is not intelligent sci-fi. This is nothing but terrible writing and terrible editing. The one thing that a lot of people seem to hate, the score, was the one thing I actually liked.

Stupid plot points:

Crew/scientists fly 2 years across space without any prior briefing or planning for a science mission. How the fuck did they select/recruit those people without telling them the point of the mission. Money was obviously a factor, but even for a ton of money most people wouldnt give up 4 years of their life to partake in a potentially dangerous mission without knowing what the purpose was. In Aliens, the marines were not briefed on the mission until they arrived, but at least the Lieutenant in charge of the unit was at least. With the marines it made sense though because they are a rapid response military unit, but a privately funded expedition, come on.

The majority of the crew are nameless people only there for the body count. The few that are named are just stupid stock character stereotypes that contribute nothing. I know in Aliens a lot of the marines were not developed, but they at least had names and you tended to care about them because they were a tight knit military unit. Hell, even in Alien3 you tended to feel for the prisoner characters for some reason. In Prometheus I really didnt care who lived or died.

Scientists taking off their helmets in a foreign atmosphere with the potential for pathogens and toxins, simply because the air is allegedly breathable.

Two scientists getting scared off when they see a 2000 year old dead fossilized alien, and then trying to run back to the ship. Maybe if the company had screened, psychologically tested, and briefed the crew members before they left earth this wouldnt have happened. Wouldnt they have screened the candidates with psychological batteries prior to leaving in order to ensure that they could handle the stress of the mission and not freak out and potentially compromise it.

The explorers in the cave split up because two scientists freaked out and wanted to leave, and the remaining ones made no effort to keep the group together. Then when they rapidly bug out due to the storm, there is no accountability to make sure everyone returned to the ship.

Two men are left alone in an alien cave with no weapons, and they were not monitored constantly by the ship. The captain monitors them for a while, and advises them that a life form is detected, then says its a glitch and basically says "screw you Im going to get laid". Thats fine responsible leadership there. Maybe if they had monitored them, they could have directed them to the cave entrance using the holo map when the storm passed so they could be evacuated. Or, maybe they would have heard them say they had found a reptile snake alien thing.

Would the captain really be singing a song that is literally 120 years old? Most likely not.

Im trapped on an alien planet, in an alien cave, with potentially hostile live aliens nearby, and I need all of my wits about me......I think I will get high. Did the company even screen and drug test these people that they are sending on a trillion dollar mission. This was seriously just plain stupid.

The so called biologist has absolutely no interest whatsoever in examining a dead alien life form, which was apparently mankind's first discovery of intelligent alien life based on them saying that this was the greatest discovery in the history of mankind. Why the hell was this guy even on the trip. Again, maybe they should have screened the crew before leaving.

The biologist, who is afraid of a fossilized 2000 year old dead alien, all of a sudden wants to make a pet out of a clearly pissed off alien snake.

Inconsistent effects of the black goo for that matter. The goo was merely a lazy plot device. No amount of fan boy theorizing can explain it away.

Morning comes, "oh crap we lost contact with the two lost guys in the cave" maybe if we had monitored them this wouldn't have happened.

They find the biologist dead in the cave, and all of a sudden an alien snake flies out of his throat. This is never mentioned again the rest of the movie. They continue to explore the cave a few more times but no one ever mentions that there are hostile and deadly alien snakes in there. The creature is never referenced again.

Holloway realizes he is sick before going back into the cave, and sees a tiny worm in his eyeball, but he does not tell anyone. He could have theoretically at least tried to get medical help since he did not know exactly what was wrong with him. In reality what he had may have been irreversibly fatal, but he didnt know that. And isnt it mighty selfish of him not to tell anyone that he is infected with an alien disease and is possibly infecting the rest of the ship.

Holloway is then incinerated, but nobody really makes a big deal about it. Not one of the scientists is curious about what, why or how he became infected. Shaw is sad about it for one scene later, but no effort is made to investigate how he got sick. All that is said is that it wasnt in the air, but no one cares to dig deeper. Its never referenced again.

Zombie Fifefield is found outside of the ship. He proceeds to attack and kill several unnamed and expendable crew members who we dont know or care about. The captain and others then kill him, but this incident is never referenced again. No one seems to care that several crew members just died, so why should the audience. And, no one on board the so called science ship filled with scientists seems to care to investigate why or what caused him to become a violent mutated zombie. Again, this scene or incident is never referenced again.

Shaw then finds out she is pregnant. She attacks two unnamed crew members, who I could care less about, as well as the Scottish scientist chick. She then delivers her retarded squid baby, and proceeds to run around the ship. She does not tell anyone what happened. The people who knew she was pregnant with an alien baby never ask about it, and she does not seem the least bit concerned. There is no attempt to study the alien or even how or why she was impregnated. Shortly after the surgery she is back exploring the ship like nothing happened. the squid baby alien is never referenced again by any crew member.


The big reveal of Weyland was totally pointless. Why did it need to be a secret? Even if the real motive for the trip was immortality, the crew would have still gone along since they were apparently paid a lot of money. Shaw and Holloway would have still went along because it would have still been an opportunity to explore their research at someone else's expense. This whole plot point was pointless. Shaw says "we were so wrong" about the engineers, however nothing up until that point would have told her the engineers were hostile. She found that out later.

The captain has the scene with the biggest exposition, yet he was never actually exploring the cave or the canisters.

They go back into the ship, and the Scottish scientist that Shaw attacked a few scenes back is with them. She does not seem to care that Shaw is with them, or is the least bit upset with Shaw for attacking her. She does not ask Shaw about the squid baby.

An engineer who has been frozen for 2000 years wakes up and pretty much instantly goes into kill mode. Once all the people are dead, he gets into the drivers seat and prepares to go to earth. the dude has been frozen for 2000 years, but as soon as he comes to he instantly goes back to his mission. He doesnt even pause for a moment to find out what year it is or to think "damn, I have been asleep for 2000 years, everything and everyone I ever knew is most likely gone".

Despite just having undergone massive abdominal surgery, Shaw is running, jumping and climbing with no problem. As was shown in the movie, the incision was only closed with staples.

A rolling circular spaceship, maybe I should run away at 90 degrees.

Im not even going to go into the bullshit of the weird xenomorph at the end. It was clear from the mural and statue thing, that the classic xenos already existed, so the one at the end was not a prototype. It was also not unique to the engineers because it was adapting to the DNA of its host, if the engineers share the same DNA as people. What we all know that this was just a lame tacked on ending, and really has no logical explanation based on pre-established alien cannon and mythology. Fan boy defenders can make up any BS explanation they want, but it was clearly tacked on with no real explanation.

All in all, this was poorly written, and you cant defend the stupidity. People acted in ways that were just moronic, and scenes hardly reference ones that preceded them. For a supposed scientific expedition, the scientists did not seem to really care to investigate what was going on around them. The characters in the film had little concern for each other ( i have been asleep for 2 years, the last thing I want to see is your face. Im here to make money not friends) so why the hell should the audience feel for them.

6/15/2012 2:44:47 AM

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"An engineer who has been frozen for 2000 years wakes up and pretty much instantly goes into kill mode. Once all the people are dead, he gets into the drivers seat and prepares to go to earth. the dude has been frozen for 2000 years, but as soon as he comes to he instantly goes back to his mission. He doesnt even pause for a moment to find out what year it is or to think "damn, I have been asleep for 2000 years, everything and everyone I ever knew is most likely gone"."

So if I'm to understand it correctly they skimped on the whole training thing where they build mock environments for people to train in and make them run simulations until they can do tasks involuntarily, etc., etc. because they wanted to keep the nature of their mission, discover the fountain of youth, a secret? I guess they could still train on many levels without knowing the exact nature of their trip, did they even bother telling them they expected there to be alien life forms at their destination?

Maybe it's because they thought the majority of the rank and file would think they were too crazy to sign up? If space exploration is a safe business money would cure that. You have to admit it is a bit of a leap to see a few star maps painted by cavemen and automatically jump to the conclusion... hey, they must have the key to eternal life. How was that connection made? I can see a whole "we've got to go there to find out why these maps are here" reasoning but any eternal life angle seems to be a reach. I mean, really?

Also, you seem to know the ins and outs of the franchise. Some side questions: The xenomorphs are a biological weapon created by the engineers so they are obviously at war with something.

Some stuff I read claims they terraform planets, seed them with life, then kill off whatever evolution vomited up so they can inhabit a planet full of resources. There's got to be a better way to do that last step than releasing a bunch of xenomorphs on the planet and waiting for who knows how long. Heck, seed some clouds with some more magic black goo and take care of the indigenous population with some quickness. I'd have to assume they are patient people and could easily wait out an alien invasion and maybe the aliens eventually starve out and add something to the planets in the process... more oil? If they don't you'll have to take care of the pesky alien problem before you colonize.

Either way, you've got to get that last step in before people are smart enough to get off planet. Shoot some alien filled torpedoes down from orbit while they are still in the bronze age and come back in a thousand years. Don't give people the chance to 1) fight back 2) accidentally infect you with aliens because someone carrying the plague hopped a space taxi to your planet. It's got to be hard to spread the infection from a doomed populace to the engineers if the best that populace can do is toss a spear at an alien and shake a tiny fist at the engineers from horseback while the engineers are laughing it up from low orbit.

I've read other stuff that suggests they are at war with other alien life forms like the predators and they decided an alien was the best way to go about killing them, more humane than chemical warfare I guess, though less efficient given their tech.

I also read the Jesus was an engineer thing. So they get so offended that the human race is corrupt enough to murder/have politics but at the same time have a biological warfare unit. Doesn't add up.

I guess these questions aren't meant to have answers, or at the very least they plan on developing some story there. From what you say it's a shame they decided to do it this way in this movie.


[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 8:17 AM. Reason : -]

6/15/2012 8:04:13 AM

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"I thought the story was pretty good, but what was the purpose of having the terraform if the engineer was just going to walk out in the atmosphere at the very end? Maybe I missed something or am just being picky, but that seemed like a pretty big oversight to me."

IIRC, someone specifically said you would be OK for about 2 minutes. I don't think he was out there that long. It was kind of the same in Avatar.

6/15/2012 8:57:38 AM

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"give up 4 years of their life"

they don't give up 4 years of their life. you don't age in hypersleep. ripley was adrift for 57 years at the beginning of aliens

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" Money was obviously a factor, but even for a ton of money most people wouldnt "

bullshit, first of all. second of all, they were being hired by a company run by a gazillionaire who had, among other things, figured out how to create atmospheres on other planets and created an android that is virtually indistinguishable from a human. so this guy comes and says "I'm going to pay you $texas to go on a scientific research mission for me, the most powerful and intelligent man in the history of the universe, but you don't get to know the purpose until you get there." you really think it's going to be hard to find a dozen or so people to sign up? bull-fucking-shit

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"air is allegedly breathable"

again, they have the technology to suspend lives for decades at a time and create atmospheres, but the technology to analyze atmosphere and give a green light is somehow beyond the realm of belief?

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"Maybe if the company had screened, psychologically tested, and briefed the crew members before they left earth this wouldnt have happened."

maybe they did. the military does for everyone who comes in. and guess what, when the shit hits the fan, there are still those who run

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"Would the captain really be singing a song that is literally 120 years old?"

I whistle vivaldi all the god damn time. that shit was composed in 1723 - 289 years ago.

I could go on and on parsing your shit, but it's clear that you are incapable of watching a scifi movie and suspending reality and enjoying what's going on. how you ever enjoyed alien is beyond me....OMG WHY IS THAT GUY LOOKING AT THESE EGG THINGS SHOULDN'T HE KNOW BETTER! OMG NO WAY COULD YOU OPEN AN AIR LOCK IN SPACE AND NOT GET SUCKED OUT.

I stand by my comment that you're just pissed you didn't get alien 0

[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 9:24 AM. Reason : .]

6/15/2012 9:01:33 AM

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"You have to admit it is a bit of a leap to see a few star maps painted by cavemen and automatically jump to the conclusion... hey, they must have the key to eternal life. How was that connection made? "

That's not quite the conclusion they came to. They believed that the enigneers created life. Weyland, the guy who funded the trip, just felt that if anyone could extend his life, it would be the beings that created life. They/he didn't necessarily believe, without doubt, that the engineers could or would give anyone immortality or a longer life. Just that if anyone could, it would be them. And to get it, you have to ask. To ask, you have to find them. It's fairly logical.

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"and really has no logical explanation based on pre-established alien cannon and mythology."

I'm not sure it's sensible/fair to assume that Scott, or you, should give a shit about the cannon and mythology of the entire Alien Franchise. 1) half of the movies in that franchise are garbage. 2) Scott only directed Alien. He had no involvement with the other movies. For all we know, he thinks they're complete shit and perverted his original concepts, and ignored them altogether. He has said, flat out, that this is not a prequel but it exists in the same universe as Alien. The main reason for that is that he thought the space jockey was an interesting piece of Alien and wanted to explore that character. So he has to at least say it's in the same universe as Alien (not necessarily the franchise, just Alien). So I wouldn't get caught up on stuff that came up in Alien 3. Or Aliens for that matter. Both Alien and Aliens were predominately horror movies (albeit good horror movies) with sci-fi elements. Prometheus, good or not, has more sci-fi elements to it.

Granted though, I agree with you about a lot of the character stuff. Poor development, very stupid characters that doesn't seem to align with their supposed credentials, etc.

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"Would the captain really be singing a song that is literally 120 years old? Most likely not."

Sure, why not? There's plenty of precedence for this in our current society. And music can be preserved much more easily now.

[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 9:35 AM. Reason : .]

6/15/2012 9:31:04 AM

I don't see what the big deal is all about. Either you liked it or you didn't and to be fair you can read anything into anything if you're looking for it. I certainly wouldn't have made the same movie if it had been up to me but it wasn't that bad. At least it had a great cast and great effects.

I certainly wouldn't compare it to the star wars movies, which ever ones that created all the nerd rage. Except in the sense that when I saw the first star wars (the 1977 one) I loved it but had absoluetly no idea what the hell was going on...didn't matter if there was a point to it or not, what did matter was that I got into the effects and the characters. If only Prometheus had made us care about any of the characters. I take that back, Holloway was a dick to David so when he got a dose of the ooze I thought it was fitting. I also liked Vickers, but mainly because she was hot and her lines made her even hotter.

The biggest problem I had was that the Captain of the Prometheus was convinced in about 10 seconds to ram the ship into the engineer's ship. Then the two pilots were like, "sure why not, oh yeah you still owe me on that bet but you can pay me in heaven..." The ensuing crash was enough to forgive that though.

6/15/2012 9:33:10 AM

people like red baron 22 are in the movie theater scribbling notes on a piece of paper through the whole movie

6/15/2012 9:34:25 AM

I would never want to hang out with red baron 22...he comes off as being an insufferable douche bag.

6/15/2012 9:36:46 AM

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"The biggest problem I had was that the Captain of the Prometheus was convinced in about 10 seconds to ram the ship into the engineer's ship."

here's my thoughts on that (and why I had no issue with their decision):

The captain and crew had seen the horrors that were going on. It's not a big leap for them to agree that whatever was killing them couldn't escape their grasp.

It's not much different than the split second decision many soldiers have made in the past when they throw themselves on a live grenade, sacrificing their lives to save their squadmates'. There's not even 10 seconds to make that decision.

[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 9:41 AM. Reason : .]

6/15/2012 9:39:12 AM

^good point.

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"Welcome to the world of tomorrow"

Made me LOL.

[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 10:07 AM. Reason : %]

6/15/2012 10:07:14 AM

Whatever mod deleted my video can tongue kiss my shithole.

6/15/2012 10:20:36 AM

You mean the one one autoplay?

6/15/2012 10:42:03 AM

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"I havent seen it yet (and I havent been reading your spoilers) but I can tell that the general concensus is that this movie isnt good"

Sure, if you base all your movie going decisions off TWW'ers. Overall the reviews are good. People are doing too much of an apples and oranges comparison to Alien/Aliens, which as its been stated were more "horror" leaning than this film. I saw it last night and fucking loved it. I thought it was freaking fantastic. Saw it in IMAX 3D which also was pretty mind blowing.

Go with an open mind and I think you will enjoy it.

6/15/2012 11:58:28 AM

It has a lot of good movie elements such as scenery and little extras to catch in the murals and what-not.

It also has a whole lot of bad movie elements that they threw in there to facilitate badness happening. These elements feel more like bad SyFy made-for-tv movie plot devices than what you expect in a polished big-budget film.

[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 12:34 PM. Reason : ]

6/15/2012 12:32:55 PM

I completely concur with almost everything which red baron 22 has stated. I also agree with several other user comments that because I have watched Alien and Aliens more times than I can possibly count, I did have a certain sense of expectation going into this film. (And why not? The space jockey is still one of the most curious aspects of one of the most memorable sci-fi horror movies ever made.) I had been reading the spoilers for Prometheus for the last several months, and I thought that the overarching story had potential to be pretty good. But the execution of this story just plain ruined it for me.

I think that one of the significant realizations about this franchise (if you've seen Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3, that is) is that you probably realize that 9/10ths of the people in the story aren't going to make it out alive by the story's end. What those characters do before that happens can add a lot of depth to the story. The majority of the "expendable" characters in this particular movie are just... not interesting or are very poorly conceived.

This movie has especially made me contemplate how difficult it must be to write a truly good script which fanboys like myself will not completely tear to shreds. Something may seem like a good idea on paper, but when you actually see the story play out, it may be quite different than originally imagined...

[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM. Reason : typo]

6/15/2012 1:27:41 PM

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"I had been reading the spoilers for Prometheus for the last several months"

Would it have even been possible for you to have been impressed with this movie? You've been daydreaming about it for months - it could never live up to your expectations

6/15/2012 1:35:41 PM

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"people like red baron 22 are in the movie theater scribbling notes on a piece of paper through the whole movie"

No, I just have a good memory

[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 1:41 PM. Reason : .]

6/15/2012 1:40:59 PM

^^ Not in my experience. As they saying goes, "One hundred travel books aren't worth a real trip." I almost always read spoilers movies (especially ones with characters in which I have a vested interest), and I don't find that they take away anything from the experience. Knowing tidbits about the plot is one thing, but actually seeing how those elements are executed is what's most interesting to me. And anyway, if every single bit of a movie's plot is spoiled, then it kinda makes me think that someone at the studio is allowing that to happen in order to try to generate interest. Prometheus suffered from WAY too much spoilage even without having to go read about any of it.

6/15/2012 2:43:56 PM

^ I pretty much saw the first trailer and stopped watching / reading anything on it from that point until I saw it. I kind of like the surprise of it all

6/15/2012 3:01:00 PM

^ Which is completely fine! I can respect that. I think that a lot of movies give away too much even with just the trailers nowadays.

6/15/2012 3:09:54 PM

while im not in the redbaron camp, i will say that the trailer was fucking epic...actual movie? meh not so much, but ok.

6/15/2012 3:17:24 PM

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"This movie has especially made me contemplate how difficult it must be to write a truly good script which fanboys like myself will not completely tear to shreds. "

I agree but this one should have been a slam dunk, they tried too hard or tried to make it too complex and screwed it up in the process. I think if they had stuck to the things that made the first one great it would have written itself. Going after the origin of man was pretty ambitious. Then add a hidden agenda by Weyland with David as his go to guy for doing sneaky shit.

I'd really like to see the original draft of this movie, before the Lindelof rewrite. I understand it was pretty action packed.

6/15/2012 3:35:29 PM

Lindelcunt is a fucking hack

6/15/2012 6:38:24 PM

the answer is to clearly give Prometheuses to Joss Whedon

6/15/2012 8:54:20 PM

6/15/2012 11:36:48 PM

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"It was clear from the mural and statue thing, that the classic xenos already existed, so the one at the end was not a prototype"

the mural thing looked more like what came out of the engineer at the end

6/16/2012 1:56:04 PM

6/16/2012 7:17:04 PM

He's sacrificing his DNA to create our whole existence and you mock him with a photochop. I hope it was worth it.

6/16/2012 8:31:24 PM

^^Hahahaha, instant classic right there.

6/17/2012 12:33:40 AM

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"WORST SCIENTISTS EVER"

6/17/2012 1:53:54 PM

Saw it. Looked good. Terrible plot and characters. 3-d was completely unnecessary.

Milburn? Holy fucking hell, were his lines written by a 7 year old? First, he's a biologist and upon seeing the first actual alien corpse (probably the most important biological discovery in human history) he bugs out. Fine. You just established that he's a pussy regarding aliens, BUT THEN hours later he encounters a living snake dong alien and gets all cuddly with it "oh look she's so cute."

And how did those two get lost when they were making a 3d map of the structure which showed their position in real time? Why did the captain ask them for their position when he could see it right there and then proclaim that the pup was 1km to their west? Why was the engineer in cryostasis if he wanted to blow up Earth why take a nap first? How did David know the engineer was going after Shaw, did they have a conversation? Or did the engineer after crashing say something like "Imma go fuck that bitch up." in ancient engineerese?

Why does Shaw think going to the engineer homeworld will result in anything but them killing her? I would have believed it much more if she said she was going there to unleash this black shit they were originally planning on sending to Earth.

What in the fuck happened at the beginning of the movie? Was that Earth? There was already life (tons of vegetation) so what were they doing? If it wasn't Earth what was the fucking point of showing us that?

Clearly this wasn't LV-426 and unless there's quite a lot of additional story between Prometheus and Alien, how were these events even related? Is this the original xenomorph? If so, how'd it get to LV-426? The "alien prequel" felt extremely tacked on, like they finished the movie and said "oh crap we have to tie to alien" somehow.

6/18/2012 9:10:36 AM

^ most of those questions have been discussed or answered in this thread

6/18/2012 9:17:39 AM

Those arent questions, they are merely him pointing out the retarded plot and script

6/18/2012 1:25:14 PM

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"What in the fuck happened at the beginning of the movie? Was that Earth? There was already life (tons of vegetation) so what were they doing? If it wasn't Earth what was the fucking point of showing us that?"

Given the ongoing themes of Creationism vs. Darwinism throughout the movie. I think that one can assume that it was earth and he was creating the first humans, thus stating that in the Alien Universe Creationism wins.

6/18/2012 1:45:52 PM

So did the engineers place all the hominid fossils and shit to trick us? This movie was insulting.

6/18/2012 2:02:39 PM

saw this on sat in 3d at the imax. totally sucked.

6/18/2012 2:06:56 PM

HEY YOU KNOW IN THE ORIGINAL ALIEN MOVE - THAT THING JUST MOLTED ONCE AND IT WENT FROM SMALL CHEST POPPER TO MASSIVE HUMAN KILLING XENOMORPH

THAT SUCH BULLSHIT. EVERYONE KNOWS MOLTING AND GROWTH DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT FAST. I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY EXPECTED ME TO JUST ASSUME THAT SHIT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

OR WHEN THESE GUYS KNOW SHIT JUST BLEW OUT OF A DUDE'S CHEST, ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO GO WANDER OFF ALONE LOOKING FOR A FUCKING CAT? SURE THAT SEQUENCE WAS AWESOMELY SHOT, BUT FUCK IT ALL IF I'M GOING TO SUSPEND MY BELIEF JUST TO LET THE FIRST GUY GET ACED

WHAT A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT.

[Edited on June 18, 2012 at 2:32 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2012 2:30:06 PM

he wandered off to find the cat because he still thought the alien was small. Obviously their is a suspension of disbelief in any movie, but as a whole the script for alien is far superior to that hack dinglecunt or whatever the fuck his name is.

6/18/2012 2:51:18 PM

so it's cool that he wandered off to find a fucking cat despite the fact that an alien just burst out of the chest of a dude at the goddamn dinner table because.....HE THOUGHT THE ALIEN WAS SMALL?!?!

but the shit in prometheus with the scientist and snake is way the fuck off the reservation?

gtfo

[Edited on June 18, 2012 at 2:57 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2012 2:53:23 PM

Movie was great. Will watch again...many many times.

6/18/2012 2:56:04 PM

goalie makes some good points. I mean, if you're going to pick apart prometheus why not do that for every movie. I still would have liked a better script but it wasn't that bad. Afterall, you can discount the script if you hate it that much and still enjoy the visuals.

6/18/2012 2:58:02 PM

this movie was a waste of $10, good thing i didnt bother seeing it in 3D. what a shitty plot. and what was the point of the Asian guy, other than some bullshit dialogue involving a $100 bet?

"oh hai guise, im going to kill myself 911-al-qaeda style, you'd better get off the ship."
"LOL, with the way you fly, you'd never make it. we'd better die with you LOL"

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"A rolling circular spaceship, maybe I should run away at 90 degrees. "

that whole scene had me going

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6/18/2012 3:14:18 PM

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"Afterall, you can discount the script if you hate it that much and still enjoy the visuals."

Essentially everyone who says they had problems with it agreed that it looked great. In this thread. So I'm not sure what position you're responding to here.

Terrible plot, terrible characters, pretty graphics. You do pick apart every movie, it's just not every movie is so consistently terribly written. Prometheus felt like it was a prequel that was then remade to be a preachy non-prequel and was then ham-fisted into a prequel once again. It was a disjointed mess. It's massively dishonest to suggest that the plot holes in Prometheus equate to Alien. Alien wasn't much more than a slasher film in space, but they got it right. It was internally consistent and terrifying. Prometheus was writer-director masturbation.

[Edited on June 18, 2012 at 3:17 PM. Reason : clarify]

6/18/2012 3:14:52 PM

^

6/18/2012 3:16:47 PM

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"Given the ongoing themes of Creationism vs. Darwinism throughout the movie. I think that one can assume that it was earth and he was creating the first humans, thus stating that in the Alien Universe Creationism wins."

I think if it was meant to be Earth, they would have made a point to choose a geographical landmark that was somewhat recognizable.

FWIW, Ridley Scott has said that it may or may not be Earth and that it's not really important.

6/18/2012 3:25:38 PM